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Heritage Big Jim
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I have grown both the standards and the Heritage variants ..... Based on the small number of each I grow, I do not recall a significant difference between the two. 6-4 is even milder than Big Jim in my environment. I grow Big Jim's, 6-4s, Sandias, Lumbres and Barker's Hot; but no more than 2-4 plants of each.
just recently read this: https://www.abqjournal.com/1061463/more-flavorful-chile-developed.html
"...feedback from growers led researchers to redevelop the NuMex 6-4 breed of chile as the NuMex Heritage 6-4, and the New Mexico Big Jim chile as NuMex Big Jim. They have five to six times the flavor as the standard green chile that you see out on the roadside,”
another article says something similar with flavor being 500% "better"
edit: well i suppose the stated improvements is over a typical chile, not that its 500% better than a Big Jim.
i recall hearing others mention the Heritage Big Jim grew larger fruit compared to the Big Jim. could be one of those ymmv i suppose.
"...feedback from growers led researchers to redevelop the NuMex 6-4 breed of chile as the NuMex Heritage 6-4, and the New Mexico Big Jim chile as NuMex Big Jim. They have five to six times the flavor as the standard green chile that you see out on the roadside,”
another article says something similar with flavor being 500% "better"
edit: well i suppose the stated improvements is over a typical chile, not that its 500% better than a Big Jim.
i recall hearing others mention the Heritage Big Jim grew larger fruit compared to the Big Jim. could be one of those ymmv i suppose.
skullbiker
eXtreme
If you want BIG Big Jims, get them here.
http://chileseedusa.com/order_chili_pepper_seeds.htm
http://chileseedusa.com/order_chili_pepper_seeds.htm
Downriver
eXtreme
Follow the link on MWCH's website to a great article on Big Jim.
https://www.midwestchileheads.com/collections/new-mexico-chiles/products/numex-heritage-big-jim
By the way, Midwestchileheads specializes in NuMex varieties and is a great source for seeds.
https://www.midwestchileheads.com/collections/new-mexico-chiles/products/numex-heritage-big-jim
By the way, Midwestchileheads specializes in NuMex varieties and is a great source for seeds.
midwestchilehead
eXtreme
Thanks for the Midwest Chileheads shoutouts, guys! I'm feeling the love.
You may also want to try Rattlesnake in addition to Heritage Big Jims and Ms. Junies.
And don't forget the THP discount - use the code "Chilehead" at checkout to get 25% off your order.
You may also want to try Rattlesnake in addition to Heritage Big Jims and Ms. Junies.
And don't forget the THP discount - use the code "Chilehead" at checkout to get 25% off your order.
Ahhhh yes. Good catch Voodoo. I grow Ms. Junie as well. How could I forget! My Ms. Junies were near the top of my best varieties last year. I've got some germinating now. Highly recommended.Voodoo 6 said:
so, it looks like they made a confusing mess with these new improved peppers called Heritage Big jim, Heritage NuMex 6-4, etc.
some seed places are now calling the previous Big Jims, Legacy Big Jim while the new improved variety are just called Big Jim, at least based on a few seed places i've checked with, but not all places..
this creates a f**king nightmare when ordering seeds, now as you have no idea if the sellers has updated/added "Legacy" to their old version or if their even calling the new improved version Heritage..
they need to start making it mandatory that all old seeds are destroyed from commercial seed banks if they are no longer being cultivated and replaced with a newer/improved version.. it's unclear whether the old Big Jims (now called "Legacy" Big Jim by some) are eventually going to be phased out.
Kind of the reason I usually prefer trading with other people and locals whenever possible, save myself of a headache with unregulated seed naming practices.
anyhow, i did manage to get some of these "Heritage" seeds locally from a friend at a nursery.
So in a nutshell, the Heritage Big Jim = more robust chile flavor, and increase fruit yield 10-15% over the "Legacy" Big Jims, fruit size is about the same in both.
some seed places are now calling the previous Big Jims, Legacy Big Jim while the new improved variety are just called Big Jim, at least based on a few seed places i've checked with, but not all places..
this creates a f**king nightmare when ordering seeds, now as you have no idea if the sellers has updated/added "Legacy" to their old version or if their even calling the new improved version Heritage..
they need to start making it mandatory that all old seeds are destroyed from commercial seed banks if they are no longer being cultivated and replaced with a newer/improved version.. it's unclear whether the old Big Jims (now called "Legacy" Big Jim by some) are eventually going to be phased out.
Kind of the reason I usually prefer trading with other people and locals whenever possible, save myself of a headache with unregulated seed naming practices.
anyhow, i did manage to get some of these "Heritage" seeds locally from a friend at a nursery.
So in a nutshell, the Heritage Big Jim = more robust chile flavor, and increase fruit yield 10-15% over the "Legacy" Big Jims, fruit size is about the same in both.
If I was shopping for the most authentic NM green chile varieties of seeds, I would go straight to the source!
https://chile.nmsu.edu/seeds
https://chile.nmsu.edu/seeds
I grew a really nice crop of NuMex Big Jims from Tradewinds Fruit seed last year.
I'm having no luck whatsoever germinating seed from that harvest, disheartening to the point of looking into the possibility of having bought a terminator variety...To my shame I found that though the science and process exists, it's not legal in the US.
...and here I sent Big Jim seed from that harvest to friends here...
I'm having no luck whatsoever germinating seed from that harvest, disheartening to the point of looking into the possibility of having bought a terminator variety...To my shame I found that though the science and process exists, it's not legal in the US.
...and here I sent Big Jim seed from that harvest to friends here...
CaneDog
eXtreme
stettoman said:I grew a really nice crop of NuMex Big Jims from Tradewinds Fruit seed last year.
I'm having no luck whatsoever germinating seed from that harvest, disheartening to the point of looking into the possibility of having bought a terminator variety...To my shame I found that though the science and process exists, it's not legal in the US.
...and here I sent Big Jim seed from that harvest to friends here...
You sent me some of those seeds - still nothing but appreciation. The P Dreadie's you sent me went 6/6 and the Ecuador Red Rocoto are 7/8 so far. I put the Big Jim's in to soak tonight right before I read this and only a few because your others popped at such a high rate. Went back just now and dropped in a few more to improve the odds. Hopefully your bad luck was just an anomaly and the next round is good. Not the end of the world if they terminated them but what a crappy thing to do.
Yeah Dog, please let me know how those do...the seed from Tradewinds made for an excellent bulk of peppers, I figured I'd get even better this year, but still no germ. I went ahead and found the leftovers from Tradewinds and planted them just to see. It's early enough I can buy more seed, just discouraging. Anaheim is THE all-around pepper in this house.CaneDog said:
skullbiker
eXtreme
Were the seeds you saved from fully ripe red pods?stettoman said:
skullbiker
eXtreme
Just checkin on ya man. But, it may be the first pods set thing. I have had times where I only got 1 or 2 ripe pods on a plant before frost and occasionally the seeds were not viable.stettoman said: