Home made nutrient solution

[A Spicy English Cheapskate]

 
I've just mixed my very first coco formula for chili peppers. The grow formulation looks like this:

N   207
K   242
P   30
Mg  45
Ca  196
S   63
Fe  5.2
Zn  0.226
B   0.226
Cu  0.063
Mo  0.033
Na  4.5
Si  19
Cl  7.0
Mn  0.50
 

This includes the salts from my tap, which is pretty soft at 25 ppm Ca. I made 1 litre of concentrate of A:
Yara Calcinit (Ca(NO3)2): 89.92g 
 
Part B looks like this (grams to the right)

Monoammonium Phosphate   NH4H2PO4       1.85
Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom) MgSO4.7H2O   13.76
Agsil 16h                               7.75
Iron EDDHA FeEDDHA                      5.56
Yara Kristalon Plus NPK 8-3-27         83.16

 
This is IMO a better bloom formula than the other formula you posted. Even this formula looks quite strong. I would lower the N down somewhere between 150-180. I would also increase the P levels to 50ppm. 
You say you only mixed this to half strength initially which would of left you with 15ppm P which is very low, young and mature peppers do not differ much in there need for P.
 
if you adjust your formula to
 
N - 150-180
P - ~50
K - 200-250
Ca - ~150-200
 
Then you could start your plants at 2/3rds strength and build up to full. I wouldn't worry about trying to change to a stronger bloom formula, pepper plants aren't that hungry in my experience.

 

[sniken]

I've been a controversial figure around here, in past times, for suggesting that grow formulas were usually incorrect, and that bloom formulas were altogether unnecessary. I won't get into that all over again, but I'd encourage you to do a "grow" only grow, side-by-side with all of the other rigamaroll that cannabis growers like to frustrate themseleves with. See what your results are.
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You may find that being overly scientific about it creates a marginally better result. You may also find that the margins aren't justifiable. Again, I just encourage you, based on what I've already done myself...
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I am not a believer in "bloom" formulas, for very specific reasons.

 
During this process with researching and creating nutes, I've been coming to the same conclusions
 
 

 
This is IMO a better bloom formula than the other formula you posted. Even this formula looks quite strong. I would lower the N down somewhere between 150-180. I would also increase the P levels to 50ppm. 
You say you only mixed this to half strength initially which would of left you with 15ppm P which is very low, young and mature peppers do not differ much in there need for P.
 
if you adjust your formula to
 
N - 150-180
P - ~50
K - 200-250
Ca - ~150-200
 
Then you could start your plants at 2/3rds strength and build up to full. I wouldn't worry about trying to change to a stronger bloom formula, pepper plants aren't that hungry in my experience.

 
Thanks for the input, I'll try this. My P level is up to 58 ppm in the latest incarnation, but yeah, N is still high.
 
I've read different opinions on the nutrient strength for young plants.. I just settled on weak solution since it seemed to make sense. I'll take your word for it though and try close to full strength.

 

[Blister]

 
So you tried the new one bottle Hesi coco with the NPK being:
 
3-4-5
 
I am currently testing the Hesi coco fertilizer for my few chilis using rainwater and i dont see any calcium related problems in the new leaves so far.
 
My best coco coir fertilizer i have used have been the Ghe floramicro/floramato combo and it is not intended specially for coco coir, but it can be used with it and i have had great results using it thus far.
 
You chili pictures above looks kind of like they are getting too much fertilizer and they dont like it.

My best results have been with the GH Flora series in the American equivalent.

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[Chilidude]

My best results have been with the GH Flora series in the American equivalent.

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Well, Ghe floramicro/floramato is like the 3 part flora series, but they made it to a 2 part fertilizer for specific need like growing chilis, tomatoes etc.,So it is no wonder i have had great results using it for growing chilis.
 
I dont know what General hydroponics are thinking in their head by not bringing the Floramato to the Usa market as it really works great for growing chilis.

 

[solid7]

I dont know what General hydroponics are thinking in their head by not bringing the Floramato to the Usa market as it really works great for growing chilis.

 
Because the US market is already saturated with "wonder" products.  That, and there really isn't a huge market for 2 or 3 part pepper fertilizers. (nor is there a need)
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Most growers in the US have a long enough growing season to plant outdoors - and granulars are the ferts of choice.  Lots of people still do hydro, or container gardening, but multi-part formulas are mostly just marketing drivel for potheads, who can't get enough of pumping unnecessary phosphates into their reservoirs, in a cyclical fashion. 
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There are HUGE debates over this subject, so it's probably best not to get too involved in that discussion.  

 

[Chilidude]

 
Because the US market is already saturated with "wonder" products.  That, and there really isn't a huge market for 2 or 3 part pepper fertilizers. (nor is there a need)
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Most growers in the US have a long enough growing season to plant outdoors - and granulars are the ferts of choice.  Lots of people still do hydro, or container gardening, but multi-part formulas are mostly just marketing drivel for potheads, who can't get enough of pumping unnecessary phosphates into their reservoirs, in a cyclical fashion. 
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There are HUGE debates over this subject, so it's probably best not to get too involved in that discussion.  

 
You could read all year long about those various wonder stuff and would not become any wiser, usually they are just a huge money drain and nothing else. I like to keep it as easy as possible without too much thinking involved. Currently i am testing the Hesi coco one part fertilizer and i just found out the Ghe maxibloom dry fertilizer, so maybe i will test it too in the next season.

 

[solid7]

 
i like to keep it as easy as possible without too much thinking involved.

 
That is counterintuitive to many people, but definitely the way to go. 
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Peppers are one of the easiest fruiting plants in the world to grow.  I'd give you my personal recommendation for coco growing, but I'm almost certain that you won't have the same availability in your area.
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The key with coco, is to pre-charge it with some sort of soluble calcium.  This is twofold - to displace any remnant sodium, and to ionically bond to the coco, to cause the coco to give up some of its potassium.

 

[Chilidude]

 
That is counterintuitive to many people, but definitely the way to go. 
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Peppers are one of the easiest fruiting plants in the world to grow.  I'd give you my personal recommendation for coco growing, but I'm almost certain that you won't have the same availability in your area.
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The key with coco, is to pre-charge it with some sort of soluble calcium.  This is twofold - to displace any remnant sodium, and to ionically bond to the coco, to cause the coco to give up some of its potassium.

 
Thanks for the advice. I think i am doing pretty good with my coco coir growing right now and i finally figured out my problems with this years indoor growing using the coco coir so all is good.

 

[Blister]

 
Well, Ghe floramicro/floramato is like the 3 part flora series, but they made it to a 2 part fertilizer for specific need like growing chilis, tomatoes etc.,So it is no wonder i have had great results using it for growing chilis.
 
I dont know what General hydroponics are thinking in their head by not bringing the Floramato to the Usa market as it really works great for growing chilis.

We have a gluttony of nutrients here. GH Flora offers a three part system of micro, grow, and bloom. Though if you read the side of the bottles carefully you quickly realize that all you need are micro and bloom since they contain everything Grow contains. 6 ml of micro and 9 ml of bloom has given me great results. Affordable and available everywhere to boot.

GH does offer a two part series though it's probably not much different than their micro and bloom.

Neil

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[sniken]

 
That is counterintuitive to many people, but definitely the way to go. 
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Peppers are one of the easiest fruiting plants in the world to grow.  I'd give you my personal recommendation for coco growing, but I'm almost certain that you won't have the same availability in your area.
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The key with coco, is to pre-charge it with some sort of soluble calcium.  This is twofold - to displace any remnant sodium, and to ionically bond to the coco, to cause the coco to give up some of its potassium.

 
I got curious What do you use as a calcium source? I use CalMag, and I haven't seen any other recommendations. 

 

[solid7]

I got curious What do you use as a calcium source? I use CalMag, and I haven't seen any other recommendations.

Calcium acetate, created by soaking eggshells ground to powder in a coffee grinder, in white vinegar. I use that diluted about 2-4 Tbsp/gal in water. You can do the same thing with dolomitic lime and vinegar.
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For me, Cal/Mag is an expensive marketing product. In reality, I find that the Cal is what's needed, and the Mag is seldom, if ever, needed. (which is why I personally do eggshells instead of lime)

 

[Selest]

We have a gluttony of nutrients here. GH Flora offers a three part system of micro, grow, and bloom. Though if you read the side of the bottles carefully you quickly realize that all you need are micro and bloom since they contain everything Grow contains. 6 ml of micro and 9 ml of bloom has given me great results. Affordable and available everywhere to boot.

GH does offer a two part series though it's probably not much different than their micro and bloom.

Neil

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 What kind of setup do you have and how much do you use? For instance I have a DWC that holds 3 gallons of water, How much of micro and bloom would you recommend in ml for the whole 3 gallons using distilled water on a 8 inch reaper plant?

 

[solid7]

 What kind of setup do you have and how much do you use? For instance I have a DWC that holds 3 gallons of water, How much of micro and bloom would you recommend in ml for the whole 3 gallons using distilled water on a 8 inch reaper plant?

 
I have been out of the hydro for some time. (unless you consider my raised beds to be DTW)  And I don't know what your nute strength or formulation is.
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My preferred media was always either a Recirculating Deep Water Culture, or a DIY "aeroponics".  I prefer the RDWC, because the larger volume of water maintains a stable temperature easier, and it's much simpler to change the whole nutrient solution at one time.
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For a sterile substrate, I always aim for a 3-1-2 ratio of nutes, however that works out.  You should be able to figure that pretty easily, based on the dosage given.
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Or you could just buy some CNS17 Grow, and have everything that you'll need for an entire grow, in a one-part formula.