I tried this first but as you can tell from the pic it was still getting full sun starting around 3pm or so until around 7pm. The plant looks awesome it just wont hold a flower.
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I think that one of the big differences that you have, which makes your growing a bit less of a challenge, is that you have much higher delta between your day and night temperatures, on average. Usually, we have 10 degrees or less difference in the summertime.ShowMeDaSauce said:I tried this first but as you can tell from the pic it was still getting full sun starting around 3pm or so until around 7pm. The plant looks awesome it just wont hold a flower.
Today, your temperature is 95 Hi, 77 Low. Mine is 85 Hi, 77 Low. As the summer drags on, mine will be more like 93 Hi, 84 Low.
Not much of a break for a cool weather lover.
UPDATE: Aji Oro is the clear winner so far. It's still a tiny little seeding, but it's growing at about the same rate as my Baccatum/Frutescens/Chinense seedlings.
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Anxious to take this experiment to its logical conclusion, I also ordered 10 more varieties of rocotos. Will be making more seed starts when they arrive.
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Guatemalan Red Rocoto
Ecuadorian Red Rocoto
Locato
Costa Rican Yellow
San Isidro Rocoto
Desert Peach
Desert Red Cherry (PL)
Mini Rocoto PI 387838
Desert Dates (PL)
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After a careful recount, I see that's only 9, and 2 of those are just stock to replenish what I already have. LOL
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If even one variety will grow even semi-well under our conditions, it will become a staple in my garden. Well, also, since they're supposed to grow like perennials, and it doesn't freeze here, it will truly be a staple.
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Anxious to take this experiment to its logical conclusion, I also ordered 10 more varieties of rocotos. Will be making more seed starts when they arrive.
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Guatemalan Red Rocoto
Ecuadorian Red Rocoto
Locato
Costa Rican Yellow
San Isidro Rocoto
Desert Peach
Desert Red Cherry (PL)
Mini Rocoto PI 387838
Desert Dates (PL)
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After a careful recount, I see that's only 9, and 2 of those are just stock to replenish what I already have. LOL
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If even one variety will grow even semi-well under our conditions, it will become a staple in my garden. Well, also, since they're supposed to grow like perennials, and it doesn't freeze here, it will truly be a staple.
I would love to find one that does well in my climate. Mine seem to grow just fine but out of 4 plants i got 1 little pod. They all did go through a really slow growing stage. 1 of mine thinks its a bonsai and looks nothing like the other. The other Miraflores is viney like a starfish.
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The mini reds can get massive in the right climate. Ive seen pics of them well over 6ft tall. The one i got behind the lattice is trying to grow more upwards now and looks really healthy. Damn thing just produces hardly any flowers. They all got a little more P-K and calcium recently just in case that was a little low. Nothing extreme but more than the CNS17 and fish emulsion were supplying.
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The mini reds can get massive in the right climate. Ive seen pics of them well over 6ft tall. The one i got behind the lattice is trying to grow more upwards now and looks really healthy. Damn thing just produces hardly any flowers. They all got a little more P-K and calcium recently just in case that was a little low. Nothing extreme but more than the CNS17 and fish emulsion were supplying.
You aren't going to kill them, but if they're planted in ground, you won't need to supplement either. Your K is building up reserve, and the P is abundant in soil.
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if you read up on other member experiences, it seems that these really are a 2nd season pepper. Looking at where they do well, they grow into bushes. I did some research on Australian rocoto growers, and the yields on these things - once they're established - is like no other pepper. But the general concensus seems to be that they need time.
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That's why I'm hoping to get mine to take. If I can get it established, my cool winters should see them flourish. For reference, I normally put out a crop of tomatoes in late September, and again in February.
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You should definitely overwinter your rocotos.
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if you read up on other member experiences, it seems that these really are a 2nd season pepper. Looking at where they do well, they grow into bushes. I did some research on Australian rocoto growers, and the yields on these things - once they're established - is like no other pepper. But the general concensus seems to be that they need time.
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That's why I'm hoping to get mine to take. If I can get it established, my cool winters should see them flourish. For reference, I normally put out a crop of tomatoes in late September, and again in February.
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You should definitely overwinter your rocotos.
All mine are in containers. Just checked a minute ago. The viney Miraflores had 3 tiny pods on it. Flowers are still holding too. My largest mini red that is just beautiful had 1 flower and no sign of any it dropped.
We had way more rain than usual. I have not really been able to fertilize very well for over a week. The bump up in nutrients went up to 4-6-6 and 7% calcium in the form of dry kelp/fish based pellets. Those amounts certainly wont hurt and will tend to leach slower. Plus plants have always responded very well to the kelp. The small boost may or may not help with drop when the temps climb in the next few days. I am sure the plants will enjoy it though.
I firmly believe kelp really helps pepper plants. Its like a Vitamin B shot or double espresso for plants. The N-P-K numbers dont look like anything but i cant deny the results ive seen first hand.
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NPK values don't really matter as much in an organic setting. NPK matter a lot when you have to explicitly control all the variables. (such as in hydro) Although, one can still have a better or worse grow, if there isn't enough of something. I don't think you'll have any problems, from what you've stated.
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Kelp tends to be N and K, in fairly close proportion. But we don't really use it for the N's and K's. We are after the hormone, enzymes, proteins, and amino acids.
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If I have to add one single amendment, that isn't a fertilizer during the normal growing season, it's always going to be kelp. Great, great stuff.
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I get 90+ degree temps all Summer here, and grow Pubes with no shadecloth or anything. They do get a filtered half day of sunlight from the fence I have them propped against. I just grow out varieties that thrive here, and kick anything to the curb that doesn't like my weather.
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Looks similar to what we are getting here. Bonus for my pubes is the UV light isn't super intense.Thegreenchilemonster said:
We need to trade some mfrb's this season. Have you ever grown the gelbe riesen? This is my first year growing it and I am impressed with the productivity for a large podded C.pubescens. Mid-March sowing and skim counted 30+ pods yesterday.
Also,have you been able to find a good line for large orange varieties? I have tried quite a few and haven't been able to get anything worth growing. It's a shame because they are my favorite.
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So, I think that there are a couple of variables at work here, that mean make or break for pubes.
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#1 - down here we have incendiary UV. Like absolute shit miserable bright sun. Skin cancer in 5... 4... 3, well you get it. They really don't seem to like that. Even Anuums and Baccatums do a lot of wilting.
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#2 - the night/day differential in temperatures that you have. On average, it's only 10 degrees (or less) difference in temp from night to day. And, for a plant that likes a bit of cool, that means no break.Â
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Our temps really only get up around maybe 95 at the absolute highest. But given those other 2 things, combined with the fact that we have no fertility in our soil, I think that would be where my hypothesis would begin.
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On another note... I am going to do some open sun experimentation with the next round. Because you just never know. I have a whole bunch of pubes on hatch.
Yeah I grew it last year. They are the huge bulbous yellow pods in the front of this pile I picked towards the end of last season. Great producer, and great flavor! I still have a couple of gallon ziplocs in the freezer of them.Pr0digal_son said:
I haven't had any luck with large orange varieties. The large orange Mexican Manzanos hate the climate here. I've only ever got a few pods from them. The Souh American Pubes love it here, though.
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Two days of HOT temps and the Miraflores is holding its flowers and pods!!!!! A couple more days to go though before temps are back to normal. Nights are staying in the mid 70s so that helps a lot.