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Hi again folks

something's wrong in my pepper's micro-world.

I need your advice and help.

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Thanks in advance for your help!

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manolo
 
What are your concerns?

I'm not sure about the few ragged leaves you've shown... A lot of my plants don't have all perfect leaves either.

They look a little pale though, so you might be over watering them.

Also, they are far too small to be setting so many buds (and fruit!). They are stressed, so you probably need to adjust your nutrients and/or light schedule as well.

They good news is they all look vibrant, and none of them appear to be dying!
 
HwyBill said:
What are your concerns?

I'm not sure about the few ragged leaves you've shown... A lot of my plants don't have all perfect leaves either.

They look a little pale though, so you might be over watering them.

Also, they are far too small to be setting so many buds (and fruit!). They are stressed, so you probably need to adjust your nutrients and/or light schedule as well.

They good news is they all look vibrant, and none of them appear to be dying!
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Hey HwyBill, thanks for checking. They loose leaves (first the got yellow and then they drop). And almost every leaf has curled upwards.

About nutrient/light... i just spray them occasionally with some epsom salts and some seaweed. Never gave them anything else because when i transplanted them, i put a lot of stuff in the soil mix (vermicompost, humus, perlite, peat).

Light: They get full sun almost all day long (but the temerature is never more than 25-26 degrees celcius). They are outside since early march (just put them inside to take some photos)

Should i cut all the buds?

thanks again for your advice.
 
What about your water? The lower leaves yellowing and falling off are what I typically associate with over watering, but in many of those pics the plants are starting to produce new leaves at the lower nodes where the leaves have fallen off, and bush out, so you might have already corrected whatever your problem was.

Not sure about the curled leaves...

I never do, but I think most people on here will probably tell you to clip the premature buds off. You'll have to appeal to them for a more technical explanation of their preferences.

Like I said though... the best news of all is you don't seem to have any pests, and even the plants that are struggling somewhat don't look in jeopardy of dying.
 
See if backing off watering changes anything. When you do have to water, mix some Fish emulsion for a little nitrogen boost to promote growth......I use Neptunes Harvest Fish/Seaweed Hydrolyzed and definitely recommend it.

Other than that they look pretty good, especially since you have all that new growth down towards the bottom (which is a good sign).
 
Your plants seem to be getting the beginnings of damping off, which can kill them. Damping off is a fungus that starts at the soil surface. Scrape off the surface of the soil, and spray it with a mix of hydrogen peroxide and water. Damping off is usually found when overwatering (as noted above, the yellowing leaves tell us you are overwatering) and the surface is not given a chance to dry out. Get a fan on them to help dry the surface, too. Don't blow them away though; if you can't find a gentle enough fan, either back it away a bit or reflect it off a nearby wall. I can see your plants are getting damping off by the 2nd pic down - look at the stem close to the soil - doesn't look good. Damping off is hard to see, as the fungus is very near the color of the soil. However, I can tell a certain lightness to the color, and also a "mealy" texture. To help prevent damping off, bottom-water, and don't let the surface soil get wet in the first place.
 
HwyBill said:
What about your water? The lower leaves yellowing and falling off are what I typically associate with over watering, but in many of those pics the plants are starting to produce new leaves at the lower nodes where the leaves have fallen off, and bush out, so you might have already corrected whatever your problem was.

Not sure about the curled leaves...

I never do, but I think most people on here will probably tell you to clip the premature buds off. You'll have to appeal to them for a more technical explanation of their preferences.

Like I said though... the best news of all is you don't seem to have any pests, and even the plants that are struggling somewhat don't look in jeopardy of dying.
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Thanks again HwyBilly. I water every 5-6 days (i check the moist with a ph/light/moist meter). I'll leave a couple of buds just for the fun of it and see what happens. Probably i'll have to wait a couple of days more until next watering in case the soil in the bottom is still wet. Looks like too much water to me (on a second thought).


holyhotpeppers said:
See if backing off watering changes anything. When you do have to water, mix some Fish emulsion for a little nitrogen boost to promote growth......I use Neptunes Harvest Fish/Seaweed Hydrolyzed and definitely recommend it.

Other than that they look pretty good, especially since you have all that new growth down towards the bottom (which is a good sign).
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Thanks for checking holy. Unfortunately neptune's harvest is not an option for me as i cannot get it anywhere in europe. But i have a bucket full o fish craps, waiting to completely rot, and also some seaweeds in a bucket too, for foliar spray. I'll back off watering a little more.

geeme said:
Your plants seem to be getting the beginnings of damping off, which can kill them. Damping off is a fungus that starts at the soil surface. Scrape off the surface of the soil, and spray it with a mix of hydrogen peroxide and water. Damping off is usually found when overwatering (as noted above, the yellowing leaves tell us you are overwatering) and the surface is not given a chance to dry out. Get a fan on them to help dry the surface, too. Don't blow them away though; if you can't find a gentle enough fan, either back it away a bit or reflect it off a nearby wall. I can see your plants are getting damping off by the 2nd pic down - look at the stem close to the soil - doesn't look good. Damping off is hard to see, as the fungus is very near the color of the soil. However, I can tell a certain lightness to the color, and also a "mealy" texture. To help prevent damping off, bottom-water, and don't let the surface soil get wet in the first place.
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Hey Geeme, thanks for your advice.

But, as i mentioned above, plants already are outside, so a fan blowing on them is not really necessary as they get a lot of blowing by the wind. Also, keep in mind that surface is dry as hell so i don't really think is a damping off matter. Plants are in 10 litters pots so bottom watering is a little bit difficult.

The only thing i can think of is maybe too much sun hitting on them. I'll put them in a more shady place and see what happens. Right now plants get full sun all day long (08.00 - 18:00).

Thanks again for checking


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I've experienced the curling leaves after over-fertilization. Perhaps your added a bit more to the soil than the plant needs
 
Phil said:
I've experienced the curling leaves after over-fertilization. Perhaps your added a bit more to the soil than the plant needs
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That's interesting.... What did you do?

I thought organic nutrients can't harm the plant (vermicompost, compost/humus)
 
I backed off on the nutes and it corrected itself. I wouldn't say it "hurts" the plant, it just starts to grow faster than it is able to and gets the leaves all misshapen. I could be wrong, but that's what those leaves look like to me
 
Phil said:
I backed off on the nutes and it corrected itself. I wouldn't say it "hurts" the plant, it just starts to grow faster than it is able to and gets the leaves all misshapen. I could be wrong, but that's what those leaves look like to me
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Thanks again Phil!
 
No problem. Hope some of the above mentioned helps out! Everyone here has had their experiences that can maybe point to a solution for you!
 
That almost looks "woody". Does it feel tough or mushy? Soil isn't very wet, so that's good. Keep them as dry as possible, only watering when necessary. And you should consider repotting. They should shape up in a couple of weeks.
 
Phil said:
That almost looks "woody". Does it feel tough or mushy? Soil isn't very wet, so that's good. Keep them as dry as possible, only watering when necessary. And you should consider repotting. They should shape up in a couple of weeks.
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It is woody and tough. I'll check the roots to see if i have to transplant them, but they are already in 10 liters pots (about 3 gallons).

scrufy said:
That just looks like it was below the soil level and he potted it up and the soil is lower now.
I have had lots of them like that with no issues and very healthy.
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Hi Scrufy. It might looks like, but it's not. Actually when repotted, i burried the stem more than it was before (almost 2 cm more).

Thanks again for your help!
 
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