Hey ya'll...okay, I'll come clean. For the past 3 years I have been trying to grow the jalapeno TAM (developed by Texas A&M and similar if not the same as the False Alarm Jalapeno) This is the pepper the industry uses to make the commercial Costco, Sam's, restarant NO HEAT popper. I have been trying to grow them because my gal loves poppers but can't handle the heat. I have tried growing them under lights in Alaska, sun and lights in Seattle, and here in Las Vegas. Thus far, they have taken the personalities of Marge Simpson's chainsmoking sisters and given me the finger yet another year. The last of my 6 TAMS just gave up the ghost. Inside or outside,...didn't matter. I have run the gammut of too much water, not enough, constant soil checks, bug destruction, etc., but for the life of me the solution to growing these dang' thang's is plum evading me. I am beginning to think they are not all that hardy and must be grown in a strictly controlled greenhouse environment..monitored only by the government and the only hands on these peppers by Czechoslovakian hop picking virgins..but then..maybe I am just a loser with these peppers. Any advice would be most appreciatted...especially from you PAM!! I bow down to your wisdom in advance.
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Jalapeno TAM's..I'm such a loser...
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Don't look at me, the only jalapeño that grows worth a damn for me is Jalora. All the others succumb to the Thrips Weapon of Mass Destruction, Spotted Wilt Virus. I have also found them, like a lot of annums, to be susceptible to the various blights that plague this area.
Now, my mother, much like your girlie, loves poppers; but thinks mild salsa is outrageously hot. So I grow Puppy and Grenada Seasoning peppers to make poppers for her. Not as meaty as jalapeños, but still good. Trinidad Seasoning are another nice mild Chinense, but it's a bit meatier.
However, if you can be a bit more literal then figurative in your description of what the plants look like when they start to die, perhaps someone here can diagnose your problem.
Now, my mother, much like your girlie, loves poppers; but thinks mild salsa is outrageously hot. So I grow Puppy and Grenada Seasoning peppers to make poppers for her. Not as meaty as jalapeños, but still good. Trinidad Seasoning are another nice mild Chinense, but it's a bit meatier.
However, if you can be a bit more literal then figurative in your description of what the plants look like when they start to die, perhaps someone here can diagnose your problem.
texas blues said:
Bwhahhahahahahahahhahaha this is the best theory!!!
it sounds like it was never meant to be, for you on growing those jalapeno TAM. you gave your best.
I wont try growing a certain kind of chile if the 1st time didnt grow well for me, at most I might try a 2nd time but if it still doesnt grow well for me then I'll never plant it again. but mostly I do if it dont grow well the 1st time I'm done with it.
I wont try growing a certain kind of chile if the 1st time didnt grow well for me, at most I might try a 2nd time but if it still doesnt grow well for me then I'll never plant it again. but mostly I do if it dont grow well the 1st time I'm done with it.
As prevalant as they are in mexican restaraunts and frozen food sections, I would think that they couldn't need too much pampering. But what do I know? Maybe ask Texas A&M.
I hate to say it, but I bought a jalapeno plant at Lowe's that grew great, it produced lots of peppers. I tasted one....thaen another...then another. No heat. I ripped that piece of @%^* out of the garden and slam dunked it into my trash can so fast it would have made your head spin. A rash and foolish move, but I was PISSED.
The other 2 jalapenos I got there are nice and hot, so I don't recommend trying to find a defective one there, but I guess my point is that it was frustratingly free of defects. Maybe try another source than A&M for your seeds.
I hate to say it, but I bought a jalapeno plant at Lowe's that grew great, it produced lots of peppers. I tasted one....thaen another...then another. No heat. I ripped that piece of @%^* out of the garden and slam dunked it into my trash can so fast it would have made your head spin. A rash and foolish move, but I was PISSED.
The other 2 jalapenos I got there are nice and hot, so I don't recommend trying to find a defective one there, but I guess my point is that it was frustratingly free of defects. Maybe try another source than A&M for your seeds.
Pam, the only description I have is one day one plant is vibrant and strong and the next day wilting out of control...hmmm I do the finger in the soil thang...hmm again...dry as a bone...water nicely...next day...completely dry and dead. Or another scenario...finger test..damp but not soaked soil...a little leaf curl...next day...heavy leaf curl..next day ..dead!! Or bring them inside out of the heat...tiny mites...chewing on them...spray/mist the bugs off..wilting again...next day dead!!!! One thang...Las Vegas has horrible water. Over chlorinated and heavy heavy with minerals, i.e. calcium. I would fill up a 5 gal water bottle and let sit to allow the chlorine to vamoose and the minerals to settle a bit. The difference...nada. The soil I got from Home Depot that supposedely for vegetables, and used a bit of tomato fertilizer per pound of soil following instructions to the letter. I have never had a problem growing things, just problems with peppers. Could be Willard is on to something..over engineering. Gotta figure the TAMs used commercially are greenhoused as they have to be available all year to meet demand or they have contracted them out to other countries for growth. Who knows. I wish I knew their secret. But nooooooooooooooo.
Any chance its a hydro plant? I know they're building multi-level 'factories' here now for mushrooms, sprouts etc. these places dont even have windows.
I've tried growing hydro seeds of another species {i take the fifth} and they just can't cope with soil.
I've tried growing hydro seeds of another species {i take the fifth} and they just can't cope with soil.
I just checked the box in my freezer, it doesn't say TAM or anything else of use. I know that there are mild jalapeno seeds available in half of the catalogues I see. I suggest (again) that you buy some other seeds. Good Luck.
No heat? Well, that's just a bummer. They aren't growing because they know you like heat and they don't have anything to offer you.
IGG...nah..its because they are female plants. Very vindictive I think. I've tried everything, including talking to them, buying them drinks and jewelry. Nada. Well..turns out my plants also think they are smarter than me too. One has a PHD, a BMW and thinks cooking and f#*king are 2 cities in China. Like a gal that gets dumped by a dude and then hates all men and would die rather than considering ever reproducing. That's just how my plants roll bro.
Pam...I even threw in some chocolate and still got the finger from them. Maybe if they were crossed with pot plants they would mellow out. I'd just have to fertilize them with pizza or burrito's and they would be happy happy.
God knows that works with me.texas blues said:
texas blues said:
Was that potting soil perhaps a Scott's product? That stuff is horrible. Any plants I've tried in it have died. My wife has talked to other gardeners ( like on http://www.yougrowgirl.com/ ) who have also had bad problems with Scott's products.
I went to my local nursery and picked up a bag of this:
http://www.sungro.com/products_displayProProduct.php?product_id=122&brand_id=17
on their recommendation. My pepper plants just love this stuff. A little pricey at about 20 bucks for a big bag but worth every penny to have happy plants.
chuk hell said:
It was Scott's garden soil that gave my peppers fusarium wilt. They recovered, but it was hell on them! (no offense Chuck)
I have wondered about the soil from Home Despot also...the stuff looked good and plant friendly. Currently...what I thought were all dead plants... 3 of them, I nipped off all the dead stuff to almost the base and now, they are showing new growth. I am stupified.
Pam...I told you they were female plants. They are too vindictive to die! I think they are coming back to inflict more pain and suffering with much woe and gnashing of teeth upon me. "Thank you sir, may I have another please?"