taking suggestions for my 2016 grow list, seed list is in my final post in this thread.
I plan to start, and grow out a number of crosses this year.
I plan to start, and grow out a number of crosses this year.
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Thank you Portuge! I've been pretty busy the last couple years and have been unable to grow anything really. One plant still lives in florida. But we shall see. Maybe we can increase that number this winter and spring.
JB: I've successfully grafted them before. It was a fun project - a cayenne onto a habenero (basically the things I had the most of).
This is probably the most ambitious graft I've ever tried though. I'm hopefull. I agree it would be pretty awesome. I'll have to be carefull with it - after all that work, I'd hate to kill it.
I'm baptist - going to one of the larger of the six SBC schools. I like the verse in your signature.
Terry - thanks.
This is probably the most ambitious graft I've ever tried though. I'm hopefull. I agree it would be pretty awesome. I'll have to be carefull with it - after all that work, I'd hate to kill it.
I'm baptist - going to one of the larger of the six SBC schools. I like the verse in your signature.
Terry - thanks.
Well I went through and made a list of the types i have with me, the source of the seed and the seed count. Turns out I brought about 7% of the varieties I have up to NC.
My seed list is as follows:
Color difference due to highlighting.
Anyone have some "must grows" that I should add to my list?
Edit: For those of you wondering why I have a variety listed more than once, its because I have that variety from more than one source that hasn't been grown out yet. I could mix them together - but only if I knew they were true. I'm sure you know the joy and pain of seed trains. lol
My seed list is as follows:
Color difference due to highlighting.
Anyone have some "must grows" that I should add to my list?
Edit: For those of you wondering why I have a variety listed more than once, its because I have that variety from more than one source that hasn't been grown out yet. I could mix them together - but only if I knew they were true. I'm sure you know the joy and pain of seed trains. lol
Requested the following assession numbers for the purpose of educating the public, taking pictures, and replenishing their seed stock.
PI 197405, PI 273425, PI 562384, PI 585278, PI 360729, PI 355392, PI 439376, PI 593606, PI 631142, PI 631141, PI 593933, PI 593931, PI 439507, PI 593928, PI 593925, PI 593924, PI 593920, PI 659106, PI 639651.
Hoping my request is granted. Mostly from ecudor, mostly baccatum, chinense, and fructescense. Though there are some chacoense in there as well.
PI 197405, PI 273425, PI 562384, PI 585278, PI 360729, PI 355392, PI 439376, PI 593606, PI 631142, PI 631141, PI 593933, PI 593931, PI 439507, PI 593928, PI 593925, PI 593924, PI 593920, PI 659106, PI 639651.
Hoping my request is granted. Mostly from ecudor, mostly baccatum, chinense, and fructescense. Though there are some chacoense in there as well.
Information I've been able to gather so far about each will be coming in a series of posts.
Starting with PI 197405
Country of Origin: Ethiopia
Species: Originally thought to be a fructescense, it was later reclassified as a Chinense.
(forum software didn't like the pictures)
Guessing the pod is the one in the bottom left, and the other peppers are included for scale.
Next up: PI 273425 aka Bird Chili a Tepin native to Mexico donated by a fellow in georgia.
PI 562384 is of course the Red Savina habanero. Which was once classified as being an "Annum". Which is interesting. Someone didn't have their thinking cap on that day. Any way.
PI 585278 is an ecudorian Chinense with no name. It looks like a red habanero to me, but we will give it a shot. It is native to the Galapagose Islands. Here is the photo:
PI 360729 is one I may not be able to get due to availability issues. There are apparently not that many seeds for it in existance. I suspect this one will not be included. This one was originally listed as a fructesence, re-classified as a chinense and is now classified as a fructescense once more. WIll we get a chance to decide for ourself? I hope so. Here is the fruit - which looks tabasco esque to me.
PI 355392 another ecuadorian pepper. A habanero type pepper that is somewhat elongated like a bhut. Restricted availability once more. But one can hope.
PI 439376
Restricted availibilty. From Ecuador. Baccatum var pendulum.
PI 593606
Restricted. I hadn't noticed when I was making my request how many of these were restricted. Hopefully they don't just deny the whole request because of the availibility issue.
Baccatum type.
PI 631141 - this pepper has been identified as both annum and fructescense.
NOT RESTRICTED (whoop whoop). It is called "Diente de Perro" which translates to "tooth the dog" or Dogtooth.
PI 631141 - a Chiltepin from Ecuador.
PI 593933 - listed as both chinense and annum. Restricted
PI 593931 - Annum grown next to Pubescense. They suspect it could be some sort of hybrid (didn't think these two crossed?) white seeds.
PI 439507 - restricted. Chinense.
PI 593928 - chinense. heart shaped fruit!
PI593925 - Chinense. But looks like a cayenne.
PI593924 - fructescense from ecuador.
PI 593920 - fructescense from ecuador. No pictures, but they called it in the description an ecuadorian tabasco... Sounds interesting.
PI 659106 - Chacosense from Germany. Supposed to have a pale yellow flower.
PI 639651 - paraguayan chacoense - supposedly used as a medicine by the indigenous people the tova. Tiny round upright fruit. purple/green fruit ripening to orangish red.
NOBTS is a good school from what I hear, but they have kind of an awkward approach to the history of our denomination. The would argue we are all basically anabaptists. While the anabaptists did have an influence on our denomination - especially those who were arminian to start with, we were equally influenced by the puritans through the particular baptists. Some at NOBTS teach that the baptists have always existed across time even when there are no like faith groups recorded. Some heretical groups end up being co-opted into the baptist tradition even when they have major issues with the trinity and other rather important doctrines. They are a bit more arminian than say southern, or southeastern. But my pastor loved his time there and wants me to attend there for my PhD... So we shall see
. If you can get into SEBTS I felt like they are the best of the 6 at the present moment. Not fully calvinist, not fully arminian, not fully molinist, but fully geared towards missions. Which is where my passions lie. Most of my professors are being written about, and published as experts in their field. Published in commentaries, history texts, etc etc etc... NOBTS isn't a bad school by any stretch. But SEBTS is better in my view (obviously or I wouldn't be giving them all my money haha).
Starting with PI 197405
Country of Origin: Ethiopia
Species: Originally thought to be a fructescense, it was later reclassified as a Chinense.
(forum software didn't like the pictures)
Guessing the pod is the one in the bottom left, and the other peppers are included for scale.
Next up: PI 273425 aka Bird Chili a Tepin native to Mexico donated by a fellow in georgia.
PI 562384 is of course the Red Savina habanero. Which was once classified as being an "Annum". Which is interesting. Someone didn't have their thinking cap on that day. Any way.
PI 585278 is an ecudorian Chinense with no name. It looks like a red habanero to me, but we will give it a shot. It is native to the Galapagose Islands. Here is the photo:
PI 360729 is one I may not be able to get due to availability issues. There are apparently not that many seeds for it in existance. I suspect this one will not be included. This one was originally listed as a fructesence, re-classified as a chinense and is now classified as a fructescense once more. WIll we get a chance to decide for ourself? I hope so. Here is the fruit - which looks tabasco esque to me.
PI 355392 another ecuadorian pepper. A habanero type pepper that is somewhat elongated like a bhut. Restricted availability once more. But one can hope.
PI 439376
Restricted availibilty. From Ecuador. Baccatum var pendulum.
PI 593606
Restricted. I hadn't noticed when I was making my request how many of these were restricted. Hopefully they don't just deny the whole request because of the availibility issue.
Baccatum type.
PI 631141 - this pepper has been identified as both annum and fructescense.
NOT RESTRICTED (whoop whoop). It is called "Diente de Perro" which translates to "tooth the dog" or Dogtooth.
PI 631141 - a Chiltepin from Ecuador.
PI 593933 - listed as both chinense and annum. Restricted
PI 593931 - Annum grown next to Pubescense. They suspect it could be some sort of hybrid (didn't think these two crossed?) white seeds.
PI 439507 - restricted. Chinense.
PI 593928 - chinense. heart shaped fruit!
PI593925 - Chinense. But looks like a cayenne.
PI593924 - fructescense from ecuador.
PI 593920 - fructescense from ecuador. No pictures, but they called it in the description an ecuadorian tabasco... Sounds interesting.
PI 659106 - Chacosense from Germany. Supposed to have a pale yellow flower.
PI 639651 - paraguayan chacoense - supposedly used as a medicine by the indigenous people the tova. Tiny round upright fruit. purple/green fruit ripening to orangish red.
Trying to end up with 4 - going to try to graft as many plants together as I can. If I end up with a few more, I have a cousin south of Raleigh here in NC, that can babysit them for me till I take them back to Fl.LS929 said:
NOBTS is a good school from what I hear, but they have kind of an awkward approach to the history of our denomination. The would argue we are all basically anabaptists. While the anabaptists did have an influence on our denomination - especially those who were arminian to start with, we were equally influenced by the puritans through the particular baptists. Some at NOBTS teach that the baptists have always existed across time even when there are no like faith groups recorded. Some heretical groups end up being co-opted into the baptist tradition even when they have major issues with the trinity and other rather important doctrines. They are a bit more arminian than say southern, or southeastern. But my pastor loved his time there and wants me to attend there for my PhD... So we shall see
. If you can get into SEBTS I felt like they are the best of the 6 at the present moment. Not fully calvinist, not fully arminian, not fully molinist, but fully geared towards missions. Which is where my passions lie. Most of my professors are being written about, and published as experts in their field. Published in commentaries, history texts, etc etc etc... NOBTS isn't a bad school by any stretch. But SEBTS is better in my view (obviously or I wouldn't be giving them all my money haha).Ordered a box of peppers from Seacowboy, and got them in the mail today... Came with a bunch of cool surprises... Taking pictures now.
5 hot sauces, peach jam (or jelly? will let you know), and 16 varieties of peppers. I am one satisfied customer.
5 hot sauces, peach jam (or jelly? will let you know), and 16 varieties of peppers. I am one satisfied customer.
Had one of the not fatalli's in my supper. It had a fantastic flavor. It might be my new favorite. It has sort of an orange hab flavor, but better. Sweeter. Less tart. With a lasting aftertaste that I liked. Heat isn't that much... But Crosses can be made... Seeds from this are definitely going to be included in my grow this coming year.
Speaking of I started some Datil seeds. Oddly enough I've never been able to start ANY datil seeds despite both the pepper and I being from florida. I attempted to start 40 seeds... We shall see if I any come up.
Speaking of I started some Datil seeds. Oddly enough I've never been able to start ANY datil seeds despite both the pepper and I being from florida. I attempted to start 40 seeds... We shall see if I any come up.
You and me are in the same boat buddy. Well almost. While not from Florida originally they are may favorite non-super that got me started while living there and I cannot get them to germ, stay healthy, produce a pod.
Got a plant from beerbreath earlier this year and it tried to die on me 2x but it's throwing a few pods now but tiny. No clue wtf is going on. Everything else is thriving and germ'd good for me in the past. Well almost everything, think 7 pod yellow congo is my other nemesis so far.
Got a plant from beerbreath earlier this year and it tried to die on me 2x but it's throwing a few pods now but tiny. No clue wtf is going on. Everything else is thriving and germ'd good for me in the past. Well almost everything, think 7 pod yellow congo is my other nemesis so far.
usually I'm good with Chinense.. But that particular one kicks my but. Rocotos, manzano, and galapagoense also kick my butt.
haha you're probably right.
I have what is supposed to be a cross between c. galapa and the ghost pepper. But from what I remember (and a quick google search revealed I was right) C. Galapa won't cross with c. chinense - at least not and produce viable offspring. C. galapa will cross with C. Annum, and annum will cross with chinense. Annum will cross with chacoense as well as fructescense.
I would be interested in seeing some of the mad scientists on the forum cross breed a chacoense into an annum, and a galapagoense into an annum. Then cross breeding the two f1 hybrids...
Just to see if it can be done.
Edit: I was recently reading a study (as a grad student, the library has access to pretty much any digitized scholarly journal in existence) where a chacoense was bred to an annum that ended up being sterile. So not every cross produces viable seed.
I have what is supposed to be a cross between c. galapa and the ghost pepper. But from what I remember (and a quick google search revealed I was right) C. Galapa won't cross with c. chinense - at least not and produce viable offspring. C. galapa will cross with C. Annum, and annum will cross with chinense. Annum will cross with chacoense as well as fructescense.
I would be interested in seeing some of the mad scientists on the forum cross breed a chacoense into an annum, and a galapagoense into an annum. Then cross breeding the two f1 hybrids...
Just to see if it can be done.
Edit: I was recently reading a study (as a grad student, the library has access to pretty much any digitized scholarly journal in existence) where a chacoense was bred to an annum that ended up being sterile. So not every cross produces viable seed.
So after a week, guess what my germination rate is?
Yup. Goose egg. Planning to start some fresher seeds tomorrow. Kraken seeds actually from pods purchased from Seacowyboy.
Yup. Goose egg. Planning to start some fresher seeds tomorrow. Kraken seeds actually from pods purchased from Seacowyboy.
No worries, they are still in the dirt. But I'm losing hope. Its just a hab type, so it should be pretty quick to germinate.
