Native climate for HOTS... are you trying to replicate ?

MNXR250R

MNXR250R

Does anyone try to replicate the natural environment of the pepper they are growing ?
 
I have done very basic research on the native environments of two peppers specifically... Bhut Jolokia (India) and the Moruga Scotch Bonnet (Trinidad and Tobago).  Both of these peppers grow in very humid environments.... i.e. 80%.  That is............... humid !!
 
I'd like to know how, if you do, how you replicate the environment. I am very interested to hear of your results.
 
Jeff
 
I don't think it is about native climate... I mean, if I replicate the indian climate on my I don't know which generation ghosts growing here in Brazil will it really be beneficial for the plant? I don't think so.
 
I am growing aleppos this year and where i am is almost identical in temp and humidity as aleppo syria. Kinda weird. Today our low and high were 1 degree difference. And i live in southern california..
 
I never thought much about the humidity. Seemed a bunch of varieties were a bit weak on my roof in Socal. A bunch of them got fried but seems that some can dig it and some good ones too. I don't know what the humidity is up there but it's so hot that it's hard to stay up there. Im growing mainly Trinidad types. I am growing the Choc Bhut which is a Trinidad Indian hybrid and it seems to be very vigorous. We'll see if the hype lives up or not. Perhaps the Indian climates are more extreme. Also seems that breeding projects that exchanged a lot of hands in the process are accustomed to a wider range of climates and are faring better as well. I started with over 700 plants to get the survivors I have on the roof now. With less than a 1 in 7 survival rate I arrived at a tight farm of around 80 hardened and tough phenos some that seem to really thrive in that environment.
 
MulchyDreams said:
I never thought much about the humidity. Seemed a bunch of varieties were a bit weak on my roof in Socal. A bunch of them got fried but seems that some can dig it and some good ones too. I don't know what the humidity is up there but it's so hot that it's hard to stay up there. Im growing mainly Trinidad types. I am growing the Choc Bhut which is a Trinidad Indian hybrid and it seems to be very vigorous. We'll see if the hype lives up or not. Perhaps the Indian climates are more extreme. Also seems that breeding projects that exchanged a lot of hands in the process are accustomed to a wider range of climates and are faring better as well. I started with over 700 plants to get the survivors I have on the roof now. With less than a 1 in 7 survival rate I arrived at a tight farm of around 80 hardened and tough phenos some that seem to really thrive in that environment.
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You're pretty close to me but you probably get the more coastal weather than i do. I'm surprised your plants are getting fried. I bet its the radiating heat from the roof. A shade cloth might help. I'm in the inland empire and it gets pretty hot. I have alot of palm trees in my backyard though so it helps add a little shade at the hottest parts of the day.
 
let the pepper plants adapt to climate change. no need to replicate.
 
when i suggest many growers here to raise humidity.  they believe that humidity will kill pepper plant.
some people said stupid advice.... LOL
 
 
 
 
 
 
HI Lek... You give not stupid advise :).   Humidity affects transpiration in the plants so it's important to consider. I think lots of plants would LOVE higher humidity !
 
Edmick...Mulchydreams... Socal is a warm place to live. No Snow !! (hehe). But you get high temps and low humidity which makes the plants spend a lot of time keeping themselves cool and not growing... or trying not to die. Shade cloth is a great idea for you.
 
I've been experimenting indoors, inside of a tent to create the ideal HOT PEPPER environment. Mid heat with high humidity. Total FAIL at this point. This growing hot peppers isn't always so easy !!
 
73,
Jeff 
 
Never thought about native environment, but so far anything that I grow in our high tunnel does better.  Humidity in there is higher.
 
MNXR250R said:
HI Lek... You give not stupid advise :).   Humidity affects transpiration in the plants so it's important to consider. I think lots of plants would LOVE higher humidity !
 
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when i grow pepper seedling indoor, i use aroma diffuser to raise humidity and repel bugs at the same time.   seedlings are super healthy. 
they have beautiful leaves and grow very fast.
 
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Edmick said:
You're pretty close to me but you probably get the more coastal weather than i do. I'm surprised your plants are getting fried. I bet its the radiating heat from the roof. A shade cloth might help. I'm in the inland empire and it gets pretty hot. I have alot of palm trees in my backyard though so it helps add a little shade at the hottest parts of the day.
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I have peppers all throughout the front garden as well and all of those get a bit of shade. They are very relaxed and green looking. Last year was a success for the front yard but the peppers on the roof seem to harder and more dense. No ripe peppers yet for the front yard while the roof is already producing finished pods. I suspect the harsh conditions on the roof allow the pepper to adapt and produce a higher concentration of oils.
 
Edmick said:
You're pretty close to me but you probably get the more coastal weather than i do. I'm surprised your plants are getting fried. I bet its the radiating heat from the roof. A shade cloth might help. I'm in the inland empire and it gets pretty hot. I have alot of palm trees in my backyard though so it helps add a little shade at the hottest parts of the day.
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I have peppers all throughout the front garden as well and all of those get a bit of shade. They are very relaxed and green looking. Last year was a success for the front yard but the peppers on the roof seem to harder and more dense. No ripe peppers yet for the front yard while the roof is already producing finished pods. I suspect the harsh conditions on the roof allow the pepper to adapt and produce a higher concentration of oils.
 
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Heres a plant that got fried but seems to be bouncing back.

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Here's a few healthy plants that adapted.

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And here's a front yard plant that gets a lotta shade..prob more humidity.
 
Hey Mulchy, how old are those plants on the roof ?
 
I thinking that the roof would get way too hot for those pots. Might be cooking the roots.  Maybe you could add random plants or burlap between the pepper pots to keep the sun from hitting the roof. might cool them off a bit.
 
Jeff
 
All the same age. Roof is definately getting beat up but is producing a lot more as well. Peppers way earlier than other growers in this same area.
 
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