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PeriPeri's Grow 13/14/15/2016: South African

Welcome to PeriPeri's Grow 13/14/15/2016: South Africa
 
If you would like to see the 2012/2013 Grow, you can see it Here

First a little info about our country:

South Africa is situated at the very southern tip of the African continent. Our country ranges a divers spectrum of cultures and religions and of course habitats. Our country is flanked by the Atlantic on the SW coast line and the Indian Ocean on the NE coast line. Our diverse habitats range from tropical to sub saharan and even desert up north. One thing is for sure, the high summer temperatures and generally mild winter temperatures mean that our country does offer a great opportunity to grow chillies (among other things). To those who are not familiar with our country, Africa probably conjurs up images of harsh barren landscapes with dry baked un-fertile soil and wild animals roaming all over the place. South Africa is probably one of the most established african countries with a large farming sector and loads of fertile soil.

The locality of where this grow will take place is largely situated inland near Pretoria. Altitude here is about 4000ft above sea level. We are talking mild winters with some frost early mornings (temperatures drop at night due to altitude). Daytime temps in winter are round about 21ºC and night time temps can drop as low as -4ºC on a very cold night. There is no rain on the "Highveldt" as we call it in winter. As a rule of thumb all months of the year without an "R" do not have rain. These are our dry months, which go from May till August. Our summer is also our rainy season. This goes from September till April. Temperatures in Pretoria in Summer vary 30ºC - 40ºC daytime to a low of 17ºC on average at night. While there is often long dry spells without rain, rains usually accumulate as huge thunderstorms that bring flash floods, hail and sever lightning.

The farm has a borehole which provides water for the garden. Although at present there is no irrigation system. One of my projects for this year.

Animal wise, we have loads of insects, snakes, scorpions, spiders, primates (Baboons and Vervet Monkeys) as well as Carnivores such as Jackals, Rooicats (mountain lion) and other smaller wild cats. But as far as chillies go, the monkeys and baboons are the biggest problem as they do eat the milder chillies and destroy plants while foraging. There are no traps big enough for monkeys and generally they are very clever to get around most deterrents, so full enclosure with shade netting is the best way.

Other than this, I would say that while there has been much bad publicity about the country in the press, our country is a beautiful country with diversity everywhere, the land, the people, the cultures and the religions. Hence our country is called the rainbow nation. Most famous person is probably Nelson Mandella who established our new democracy in the New South Africa after the apartheit era. Our country is a young democracy in the making - but most of all, our country is a diverse and beautiful country with much to offer and of course home of the Big 5, Blue Whale and Great White Shark... and much much more. Just a quick and very narrow snapshot of what our wonderful country is about!

Last years experience has given me a better understanding of growing at the farm and these are the pitfalls from my exercise last year.

Generally last year was a great season. Great weather - hot and dry. Lots of mistakes made, but things that will not be repeated. Last year we had about 78 different varieties of chillies. We had an estimated 1000 plants in the soil. Last season was our first season growing in the soil and based on previous experiences with growing in pots... I will say adieu to pots and hello soil.

1) Watering. As mentioned there is no irrigation. Water is available a plenty, but regular watering in these hot climates is a must. So for me, I will be looking closely at getting some sort of a watering system up and running. Added problem is that the farm is located about 1 hour from where I live, so watering every day during the week was reliant on staff at the farm watering ever second day during the week. Staffing issues resulted in the loss of quite a few plants due to non watering. So irrigation and a computer will be priority.

2) Season. Last year we started planting seedlings late October/Early November. This year we aim to be in the soil early October. Germination started earlier this season beginning July. I have also acquired a green house which I will use for the seedlings.

3) Planting. Last year planting got into a big muddle. This year I will be more methodical. Also, we planted too close. We found that this becomes a problem when harvesting. We did not feel that last years approach of planting two seedlings together being a problem. We did not notice any significant lower yield with plants that had been planted together as opposed to individually. And found that the cohabitation of plants together (in pairs) actually helped in areas where seedlings were exposed to direct sun. In fact, cohabitation resulted in better growth and larger plants.

4) Spacing. Last year we planted seedlings approx 45cm apart. We would like to extend this to 60cm as we found 45cm to be too dense. We were happy with using channels and rows which helped retain water for approx two - three days between watering and helped channel any run off out of the field. Also, there was no pooling or puddling which was better I think.

5) Insects/monkeys/Snails. Mostly cutworm issues with small seedlings. We will tackle this by using (Stickman's stick method) and through pellets - if need be. Pepper maggots: We suffered quite extensively with Pepper Maggots. We will implement sacrificial boundary plants, fly tapes and beer traps (not for me but the wasps). Monkeys: Plant inside enclosures only. We will be looking at extending the current shade net enclosure, but will need to raise funding for this. Giant African Land Snail: Amazing buggers these. We found lots but only a few that had dug into the plants root system to suck the minerals from plant roots. Not much of a threat as these were just removed by hand, but the enclosure goes a long way to preventing them from getting in.

6) Weeds. Last year we had a problem with weeds. Weeds were time consuming at the start of the season and probably brought about by the application of horse manure. We will try and look at applying some kind of ground cover to reduce weeds, but this will be advised at a later stage.

7) Planting. Last year we took young seedlings and planted them in a nursery. Once big enough we transplanted them densely in the inside enclosed garden (which has 40% shade cloth) and then transplanted the young plants to the open fields once about 15 - 20cm in size. We would like to cut out all the extra work and transplanting, which we found to just delay growth. Every time you transplant, the plant growth is set back... so we will be planting directly into the plants final destination. This means we will be waiting for the pants to get to 15-20cm in size before planting in the soil. Last season we planted seedlings in the soil when they were very small and this also resulted in losses through cutworm.

8) Fertilizers. Nothing hectic. The soil at the farm is incredibly rich and fertile soil. But we found last year that Seaweed and Fish fertilizers to be brilliant and totally harmless. So we will definitely be sticking with this recipe. Out of time constraint, last season, pellets were applied to the surface as opposed to mixing the pellets into the soil around the base of the plant, so this season we will try and do this properly. We alo will pay particular attention to maintaining the mounds around the root base and regularly loosening the soil. With our flash floods and heavy downpours the mounds do flatten and the soil becomes compacted. This results in roots being exposed, water running off the soil as opposed to into the soil and ultimately impacting on the plants optimal growth.

9) Support. Last year we added support as the plants became bigger. Not knowing how big some of the plants would get. We have a better idea this year and will be implementing supports at the beginning. We have two types of bamboo on the farm and will be using the harder thinner bamboo as this does not disturb the roots as much.

10) Drink. More beer. Last year we did not have nearly enough beer to get us through the backbreaking work... so there will have to be more beer for sure :) Just one more thing on that, Nature is an amazing process. Trust in nature. Everything has its place and jumping to intervene (which we always want to do) is sometimes the worst thing that we can do. Plants are very forgiving once established and a lot more resilient than we give them credit for. So chill. Have a beer when the nerves are frayed and you want to reach for the napalm. Nature is amazing most of the time and things in nature have survived a million times over. For aphids there are ladybirds. For insects there are the birds... if you napalm the aphids, the ladybirds will go... just chill and have a beer :) This is my theory and I am sticking to it lol

Ok, lots on the cards this year. plenty to do and arrange and it will be kicking off shortly. The plants from last year are still in the garden and field. I only over wintered the special plants. Of these there are 100 mature plants that I rescued from the winter frost. The other 900 plants are still in the soil. It looks like armageddon in the fields. Some plants have been taken by the frost for sure, but others are showing signs of life. I plan to go this week to weed out the dead plants from the survivors and prune dead wood. I am planning to rearrange things somewhat, so once I have established the survivors, I will be transplanting those plants to get order back into the fields. This will allow me to get the vacant land ready for new plants.

As mentioned germination is well under way. Propagator has been fired up now for month and a bit and seedlings are coming along just great. First week of October will be my D-Day for planting.

Loads of exciting new chillies on the go this season. I had intended to cut down on the number of plants this year... but guess what :D

Grow List 2013/2014

Aji Lemon
Angkor Sunrise
Anheim
Antilaise Caribbean
Avenir
Baby Belle Pimento
Bahamian Goat
Bali Long
Bali Naga
Bhut Jolokia
Bhut Jolokia Cappuccino
Bhut Jolokia Chocolate
Bhut Jolokia Peach
Bhut Jolokia X Habanero Giant White
Big Jim
Bile Bile (Zimbabwean PeriPeri)
Biquinho
Bishops Crown
Black Pearl
Blondie
Bonda Ma Jacques
Boriya Mirch
Cabe Merah
Calapeño Thunder
California Wonder Golden
Calypso
CARDI Red
Carolina Reaper
Cayenne
Joe's Long Cayenne
Cherry Sweet
Cherry Bomb
Cheyenne
Cheyenne X Thai
Condom (Aji Verde)
Datil
Devil's Tongue Brown
Devil's Tongue White
Ecuadorian Sweet
Explosive Embers
Facing Heaven
Fatalii Red
Fatalii White
Fatalii Yellow
Fidalga Roxa
Fish Pepper
Goronong Cili
Habanero Big Sun
Habanero Champagne
Habanero Gambia
Habanero Golden
Habanero Paper Lantern
Habanero Peach Long
Habanero Red
Habanero Large White
Habanero White Jellybean
Hong Kong
Hot Pixies
Hungarian Hot Wax
Hungarian Sweet Wax
Hungarian White Apple
Ignite
Jalapeño
Jalapeño El Jefe
Jamaican Gold
Jawala
Long Thai
Madballz7
Makulu Peri
Malaguetta
Manzano Orange
Mata Frade
Morango
Naga King Jolokia
Naga Morich (European)
Naga Morich (Indian)
Naga Viper
NagaBon
Nagalah
Orange Blob
Pasilla Bajio
Pata Pario
PeriPeri (Mozambique)
PeriPeri (Malawi)
PeriPeri (SA)
Phuli Jiyoti
Pimenta de Neyde
Purple Tiger
Red Savina
Ring of Fire
Rocotillo
Rodo
CARDI Yellow Scorpion
Scarlet Lantern
Scotch Bonnet
Scotch Bonnet Peach Long
Serrano
Sikanya
Tabasco
Thai Dragon
Thaibo
Trinidad 7 Pot Barrakpore
Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah X Trinidad Scorpion ButchT
Trinidad 7 Pot Primo
Trinidad 7 Pot Brainstrain
Trinidad 7 Pot Burgundy
Trinidad 7 Pot Douglah
Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah
Trinidad 7 Pot Red
Trinidad 7 Pot White
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga
Trinidad Perfume
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Bhut Jolokia
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Trinidad 7 Pot Primo
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Moruga
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI Yellow X Bhut Jolokia
Trinidad Scorpion Long Tail
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Chocolate
Trinidad Scorpion Sunrise
Trinidad Scorpion Yellow FG
Tuscan Frgitello (Pepperoncini)
 
122 different types - I hope that will be it :D
 
Thank you to Stickman for the seeds. Thank you to Conor for his seeds and thank you to Meatfreak for the amazing selection he sent. I am still hoping that Walkgood's package will arrive - so thanks for those in advance my friend!
 
 
 
Looking great peri. I should send you my variety of the birdseye for next season .. Its a good hot one ... What's the nagalah background??
 
JJJessee said:
Fantastic depth of varieties you have going, Lourens. I'm Naga King is going on my 2015 list. Kinda on your channel with the chocolates, I haven't made any powders with them, so there may be some redemption there. Nice snake picture. Were you using a tele-tele-telephoto lens? :) Some pepper friends spent the winter in Bali and I think he's trying to bring some Cabe Merah seeds back. You plants looks beautiful; I can't wait to give it a try. 
 
Hi and thanks JJJessee! The snake pic was taken with an iPhone... a bit blurry as I was shaking considerably... had to go close up and this particular cobra can spray venom up to 3m with accuracy! I oddly enough don't mind brown pods in powders... but there is that taste when they are fresh that just makes ma wanna hurl on the spot lol The Cabe Merah is fantastic. It has so much flavour and the burn just keeps on going... I will be using those for an Asian blend chilli powder... with about six other asian chillies..

Trippa said:
Looking great peri. I should send you my variety of the birdseye for next season .. Its a good hot one ... What's the nagalah background??
We'll do a swap! I have my contacts from all around... Malawi, Zimbabwe and Mozambique.... I have a totally wicked stash of new PeriPeri from Malawi that are very small and are super super hot... I have not even got these on the website yet... nearly blew my head off - probably the hottest PeriPeri I have eaten to date. I just can't wait to grow these for next season.
 
The origins of the Nagalah seed stock is from the UK. Great suppler that sent me these. They are a cross Naga - Douglah from what I understand. Pods ripen bright orange to red. Very tasty, very hot... and pods are big too. I have a real soft spot for this one. But there are other names out there... I am under the impression that the Bhutlah is also a cross Bhut (Naga) - Douglah... never tried those - but I can say the Nagalah is awesome.
 
This Bali Long is a new plant for me. I got these seeds from Grant... will be interesting to do a taste test. For me, the Thai Dragon is still simply brilliant...
 
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Found this guy on the Hungarian Hot Wax soaking up the summers rays...
 
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I planted some Infinities... some got nailed by the hail storm earlier in the season and others were affected by the aphid attack... but this one seems to have pulled through...
 
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The first Ecuadorian Sweet... finally! These guys take a long time to change colour.
 
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The one Brainstrain plant is producing some pretty awesome pods...
 
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And the other Brainstrain plant... lol - the pod looks like a Brainstrain on the outside... but seems to have a hemorrhage...
 
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The Condom chilli (as I call it)... I found out later that this is a Aji Verde... I think every Peter's Pecker Pepper should be issued with one of these lol
 
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Fun aside, these are incredibly big and productive plants. Chillies can be eaten green or red... flavour is great, heat is mild and you can also use these for poppers... love these guiys too...

Two regular Bhuts...
 
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Charles' Bhut x Y7 is taking longer to go places... but we have a sign of poddage...
 
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Thanks for all the photos, it's nice to see what the pods look like especially the one's that I'm growing for the 1st time.

I like the Nagabon, not the hottest but a different flav than norm. My original seed came from THSC a few yrs back. The pods become heavily crevesed looking and ripen a lighter shade of red.

Glad to see you like the Naga King...new to my growlist. I'm looking forward to tasting those. Ha...it's funny you mentioned the Red Fatalii compared to the Yellow. The Red missed my 1st seeding and today I'm planting what c.chinense that I missed. The Red Fatalii was skipped the 1sr round, the flav reminds me of the Red Savina which I'm not that fond of.
But, it's it's been a few seasons and I'll gine the Red another chance. Can't beat the Yellow for taste and production.

Wow...snakes galore ! Venom spitting sounds dangerous.

Where are you into the season , almost halfway through ?
 
PIC 1 said:
Thanks for all the photos, it's nice to see what the pods look like especially the one's that I'm growing for the 1st time.

I like the Nagabon, not the hottest but a different flav than norm. My original seed came from THSC a few yrs back. The pods become heavily crevesed looking and ripen a lighter shade of red.

Glad to see you like the Naga King...new to my growlist. I'm looking forward to tasting those. Ha...it's funny you mentioned the Red Fatalii compared to the Yellow. The Red missed my 1st seeding and today I'm planting what c.chinense that I missed. The Red Fatalii was skipped the 1sr round, the flav reminds me of the Red Savina which I'm not that fond of.
But, it's it's been a few seasons and I'll gine the Red another chance. Can't beat the Yellow for taste and production.

Wow...snakes galore ! Venom spitting sounds dangerous.

Where are you into the season , almost halfway through ?
Hey Greg! :) Glad to be the one showing for a change... you always have a massive grow on the go.
 
I am totally curious about the Nagabon. It does look different. I am totally looking forward to trying this one. I hope my plant looks on track... I have absolutely no idea what it should actually look like.
 
The Naga King is my absolute champion. The flavour is sensational. The heat, the burn and that aftertaste of sweet orange peel... awesome! I am an absolute fan of the Yellow Fatalii. The Red Fatalii I grew last year looked very similar to the Yellow relative, but for me - the flavour was totally different. I was a bit disappointed in the fact that the flavour was nothing like its Yellow namesake.
 
The Mozambique Spitting cobra is dangerous but there are far worse on the farm. Its venom is much less lethal in comparison to the Black Mamba or the Cape Cobra... of which there are a plenty too. Touch wood, I have not come across any of those yet. The Balck Mamba can kill in 15mins and the nearest hospital to the farm is a good hour away :)
 
The season is approaching autumn now. First frost comes first week of May. March and April are still good with Max Min temps 28/15ºC... but night time temps drop suddenly last week of April. Day time temps here in winter are always pleasant ±25ºC... but as we are 5751ft above sea level... so night time temps drop rapidly below zero. If it weren't for the cold night... I could probably grow all year round (damn)... but hey - good to kick back, take a rest and watch you guys slave in the garden lol :)

chilli whisperer said:
Nice pics and pods Lourens,how long does it take for your pods
to change color? Mine takes forever :\
Hi J, they vary... Ecuadorian Sweets, Bishop... they seem to take forever. Nagas and 7 Pots seem to go quite rapidly. Oh and Thai Dragons seem to take forever too...
 
Interestingly enough I always presumed that a plant changing colour had to do with the amount of sun the plant gets. But I think this is not the case. I often see plants with green pods and the ones hidden deep inside the plant that get almost no sunlight change colour first. Not sure if anyone can elaborate on this.

I am happy to announce that tyhe cumari Pollux has finally got flowers... it looks like it will be podding up soon!
 
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There's that Nagabon... loads of pods appearing on this one.
 
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Ja Ja, here comes Ramon's Haba,
 
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First set of pods... still small - but finally!
 
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Trinidad Perfume... looks like some flowers on the go...
 
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Man Lourens... you just don't quit with the killer photos do you? :dance:  Things may be cooling down for you now, but it looks like the chiles in your garden have got the word that it's now or never for pod production... Looks like you may be in for the busiest time of year in the kitchen... ;)  Glad to see the Gochus are doing well for you. A quick tip to keep the powder fresh-tasting through the winter... remove the stems and seeds, then dry the whole pods and just bag them up in well sealed plastic bags or glass jars with tight-fitting lids, and only grind what you need when you need it. The more surface area your dried peppers have, the more they'll oxidize over time, and the quicker they'll lose flavor and aroma. They're also good for fermented sauces if you want to try it with some fresh pods. Cheers!
 
Krimzon Lee finally changing colour... apologies for the fuzzy picture.
 
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Ok, that picture was for you Rick... a blurry one - but that is down to that stupid auto focus on the iPhone that just loves to focus on the background... I mean really?? How is it possible that the camera had the background in focus with them Krimzon Lees in the middle of the foreground? lol iPhone smyphone... whazzup Samsung :)
 
stickman said:
Man Lourens... you just don't quit with the killer photos do you? :dance:  Things may be cooling down for you now, but it looks like the chiles in your garden have got the word that it's now or never for pod production... Looks like you may be in for the busiest time of year in the kitchen... ;)  Glad to see the Gochus are doing well for you. A quick tip to keep the powder fresh-tasting through the winter... remove the stems and seeds, then dry the whole pods and just bag them up in well sealed plastic bags or glass jars with tight-fitting lids, and only grind what you need when you need it. The more surface area your dried peppers have, the more they'll oxidize over time, and the quicker they'll lose flavor and aroma. They're also good for fermented sauces if you want to try it with some fresh pods. Cheers!
Hey Rick! I'm busy alright... loads of poddage coming in. Not as much as last season when it all seemed to come in all at once, but that can only be a good thing. if I make 200 litres of sauce this season as planned, I will be a mighty happy chillihead. Also busy with powders. Your tip is great thank you - makes perfect sense. I will do this with the brown and asian chillies that I am earmarking for poder and dried products. People here eat a lot of Biltong (Jerky for you)... I am hoping to make a nice hot Jerky... may need to play around a bit ;)
stickman said:
 
Yess!! They're fairly thin fleshed frying peppers with a sweet taste and a little heat in the ribs. Your kids might like this one... it's good with sliced onions and garlic on a bun with sausage... http://allrecipes.com/recipe/italian-sausage-peppers-and-onions/detail.aspx
Ooooh aaah man, that sounds fantastic... are these like a type of Paprika?
One of my Nagabon plants is looking a wee bit suspect though hmmm... looking a bit more like a Haba Lantern or something else...
 
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TS Chocolates are over the aphids and shooting up... now lets see some pods I say!!
 
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So that is pretty much all the time I had to take pics folks, but let me just touch on the technical.
 
The aphids are on the rise again. I did not have enough time to spray last weekend, but I will try and head out before the next weekend to do this.
 
There is a problem with the irrigation again... no pressure. So that will need sorting - must be on the pressure pump side.
 
I did a dose of seaweed pelettes two weeks ago and this has definitely give things a growth spurt. Love seaweed suppliments, they rock and create massive growth spurts for sure.
 
Last weekend I did a round of ferts high in Potassium and Phosphorous... to give them plants a boost for flowers and fruit/pod production. I am hoping this will kick in and give the plants a serious kick up the jacksie. There's pods, but hey I want more (lol)... so lets see what happens.
 
Less rain at the moment. In fact it is dry at the moment. Daytime temps have come down for this time of the year... but it's still pretty hot out there. So the irrigation is an area for concern again. Anyway, that is a wrap up for one week :)
 
Dear Agnes,
 
I am a self confessed chillihead. My girlfriend is not into hot chillies like me. I said I would cook a lamb curry for her tonight but she said I shouldn't make it so hot :shocked: :crazy: :silenced: :eh: :eek: :D :doh:
 
What should I do? So many emotions - I am confused, should I use a ButchT, Moruga or a Carolina Reaper?
 
Sincerely PeriPeri
 
Wow, some great stuff here.  My faves of what I sent you are the Choco Bhut x Douglah, those are turning out quite nice.  But I'm pretty sure I sent you F2?
 
The Yellow Bhuts are looking ok, but not really great imo, sorry about that.  I imagine the variation you're seeing is due to environmental factors, but I'm not sure.  What I sent you were seeds from two different pods that were open pollinated.  They look like yellow bhuts, just not the best of what I've grown.  I'm growing one right now from isolated seed, if it turns out how I think it should, I'll send you some seed for your next grow.
 
I'll be curious to see the color and flavor on the choco bhut x douglahs and the yellow bhuts.
 
Your descriptions of the Naga King are very nice, I'm glad I'm growing it this year too...
 
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WOW Lourens, looks like your swimming in peppers there. Such great variety in flavors and heat no wonder your confused and writing Agnes :) 
 
Spicegeist said:
Wow, some great stuff here.  My faves of what I sent you are the Choco Bhut x Douglah, those are turning out quite nice.  But I'm pretty sure I sent you F2?
 
The Yellow Bhuts are looking ok, but not really great imo, sorry about that.  I imagine the variation you're seeing is due to environmental factors, but I'm not sure.  What I sent you were seeds from two different pods that were open pollinated.  They look like yellow bhuts, just not the best of what I've grown.  I'm growing one right now from isolated seed, if it turns out how I think it should, I'll send you some seed for your next grow.
 
I'll be curious to see the color and flavor on the choco bhut x douglahs and the yellow bhuts.
 
Your descriptions of the Naga King are very nice, I'm glad I'm growing it this year too...
 
edit: :drunk:
Hey Charles, apologies for getting that wrong. I agree with you, the Choco Bhut x Douglahs look awesome actually. I think they will be mighty tasty too. I know I say I don't like brown chillies... but there are exceptions and I think this could be the turning point for me. I have tried a few Douglah crosses and totally enjoyed them. So really looking forward to your recommendation on these.
 
Please don't be disheartened by what you see with the Yellow Bhuts you sent. The weather has been monsoon like, cold and overcast most summer. So all pods are small and smooth looking. I had really pinned mu hopes on going big this year... but it has been a total disappointment this year! Even in the shops there are no chillies for sale... so it has been a bad bad year for chillies here this year!
 
The Naga Kings are exceptional. They are my absolute best. Not the hottest, but grow like on steroids and yield loads of big pods... and well the final taste is in the pudding... long, lengthy strong burn... incredible flavour and that taste of orange rind is just splendid for hours to come!
 
:onfire:  I look forward to your grow log my friend!
RocketMan said:
WOW Lourens, looks like your swimming in peppers there. Such great variety in flavors and heat no wonder your confused and writing Agnes :)
lol Thanks RocketMan, it has been a tricky year from hell I tell you. Not half of what I had planned... but this just makes me even more determined for next year :D
 
Agnes did not give me an answer so I thought I would go easy on the old gfuend and reached for PaulG's Naga Bee powder. Seriously I only added a teaspoon - or was that a table spoon  :think:  - I get so confused :doh: . Anyway, Caroline the Reaper has melted. She is about half her body weight now. She never was a tall lass, but shes only 4ft now and looks very gaunt. If she was a chilli I would know what to do, but I am a little stuck for ideas. Maybe I could use the turkey baster and inject her sweat back in her? Anyway, I loved the Naga Bee powder +1 PaulG... right on brother! :fire:
 
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