I have a question concerning plant genetics if a brown/chocolate pepper crosses with an yellow pepper would the F1 peppers form that cross be red?
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What is the most likely color for a cross like that then?
Thanks HAJHAJ said:
I am planing to grow the Trinidad Brown Bonnet & the (Moa Yellow Bonnet again ) next year & was thinking they might make a good cross & would be a bonnet to bonnet cross
I have 6 chocolate habs plus an over winter from last year. All of my choco plants are from seeds I saved last year. One of the choco habs is kicking out red pods.
The only plants I grew last year was red Caribbean, mustard hab and chocolate hab. Based on what I had, do we think the choco crossed with a caribe or is it possible it reverted to red on its own? Could it have crossed with a mustard since those have some yellow? The pods start dark green like my chocos, have the same shape, but turn red. Tons of oil in these too, more than I've seen in any of the 20+ varieties I have this year.
The only plants I grew last year was red Caribbean, mustard hab and chocolate hab. Based on what I had, do we think the choco crossed with a caribe or is it possible it reverted to red on its own? Could it have crossed with a mustard since those have some yellow? The pods start dark green like my chocos, have the same shape, but turn red. Tons of oil in these too, more than I've seen in any of the 20+ varieties I have this year.
Genetikx said:
Getting complicated here
First, since brown is recessive, it should not be possible to revert to red, unless crossed.
Second, the only candidate should be the Red Caribbean, since both Mustard and Chocolate hab. has the brown trait.
This is my guess. But who knows what the plants are up to, when we are not looking ...
Interesting stuff, thanks.
This helps explain why most of my accidental crosses turn out red.
This helps explain why most of my accidental crosses turn out red.
Thanks, that is what I expected. Due to the oil content this is definitely a strain I'm going to keep. Need to get a better taste test compared to the normal chocolate hab but I don't recall it tasting like caribe. We'll see how the f2's turn out. I'm calling it Red Hot ChocolateHAJ said:
Getting complicated here
First, since brown is recessive, it should not be possible to revert to red, unless crossed.
Second, the only candidate should be the Red Caribbean, since both Mustard and Chocolate hab. has the brown trait.
This is my guess. But who knows what the plants are up to, when we are not looking ...
Jason I growing this season West Indian Red/ Caribbean Red selected seed which had a great shape .... more than happy to post you
HAJ said:
Anyone have links on the subject. This is something that I should be looking into further while doing my crosses. Preferably pepper specific. I'll google as well. Reading http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/vc221/pepper/PEPPERrd.htmright now
Thank you John I would much appreciate that if you would pleaseTrident chilli said:
D3monic said:
Somebody posted a really good, detailed description/link a few years back. I'll see if I can locate it.
Edit:
Ok here we go: http://thehotpepper.com/topic/40168-color-geneticsbreeding-colors/?hl=genes#entry846134
Crossing a yellow and a brown statistically would yield red pods, from my research on all of that in the linked thread above. Brown is the result of chlorophyll retention on top of red when ripe, you're shades of brown come from the ripe shade. If you crossed a lighter "brown" with a yellow, you wouldn't get a red.