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Problems w/ Red Paper Lantern...

Josh

Josh

Hey Guys,
I am hoping you can help me figure out what is up with my Red Paper Lantern. The leaves are showing signs of rusting and I am not sure what it is. It hasn't dropped leaves or anything like that. Aside from the rusting and the one yellow leaf it appears to be healthy. I was also wondering if anyone had any good pepper disease, fungus, etc. websites. All the ones I come across have good info. but terrible pictures.
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Nice plant Josh! Honestly, it doesn't look like a disease to me. It looks more like a deficiency or in the third pic, like the plant is just dropping some larger leaves.

Number one, have you fertilized at all lately

Number two have you been having as much rain as we have here in NC?

I'm going to guess it may be due to lots of water, giving that it's been very wet here. Definitely putting my money on nutrients and not disease judging by the pics. I'm gonna say if you havent fertilize at all, maybe some epsom salts might help, or a bit of fish emulsion or some other soluable fertilizer if the pot isn't already waterlogged.

Doesn't really look catastrophic right now though.
 
josh, my orange paper lantern looks the exact same way! I know I have had alot of rain lately. We had some good sun today, so I was just going to ride it out for now.:(
 
I agree with the above comments. It certainly loks like a deficiency of some sort rather than a disease, but isolate it any way. Check the rain and as it is flowering give it a nice flowering mix quality fertiliser. It should pick up soon.
 
Looks fine to me, as long as the new leaves arnt showing spots like that you are ok. It does look like it could use some magnesium from the yellowish new growth.
 
Hey thanks for all the input. I feel better now. In regards to fertilizer, I actually gave them all some pelleted fertilizer this evening. I cannot remember the last time they had fertilizer. I normally use a liquid concentrate, but with all the rain I haven't been able to give them anything. I will have to hit them with some epsom salts tomorrow evening. Hopefully this rain will stop soon and these plants will be able to get on with their lives.
 
Even bring this one under shelter...hit it with fert and it will be all good.

Orange bhut jols cane in butter chicken! WOW!
 
When confronted with something like this and not knowing exactly what it is the smart thing is to remove and isolate it. It's easy to put it back.
 
patrick said:
When confronted with something like this and not knowing exactly what it is the smart thing is to remove and isolate it. It's easy to put it back.
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I hear ya Patrick. It is just tough in terms of how things are laid out in my back yard this year. The areas where I can put plants are basically filled. And if I cram it in somewhere there will be other pepper plants nearby. I think I am going to go with the recommendations and just watch it closely.
 
I think people tend to overreact to weird features on the leaves, like a plant version of a hypochondriac, or if you will let me invent a new word, a bunch of hypocapsiacs!

I bet that 8 out of 10 times, it's nothing serious at all (not a virus or fungus infection).

When you see a feature that sounds alarm bells in your head, I think before you put the said plant or plants into a biological isolation chamber you should ask yourself a few questions.

#1: When was the last time I fed them? (Not enough, too much)
#2: Have I been watering them too much?
#3: Have they expeirenced frequent shallow waterings? (mineral buildup)
#4: Are there any strange insects lurking about?

Chances are, it's something else and isnt contagious, and not something thats worth freaking out about. Asking these types of questions could lower your bloodpressure and stress levels, it works for me :)

By the way, one of the earlest signs of a nutrient deficiency is NOT on the new growth, the first thing a plant does when faced with a deficiency of one or more nutrients is cannibalizing (absorbing nutrients from) older leaves (those nearest to the bottom), so the first thing I look for is lots of yellowing, or necrotic areas (rusting, dead spots, crinkled edges ect...) in the older leaves, and if the middle growth starts showing signs, then this is even more alarming. After that, if the problem is not recitified, the plant will start cannibalizing the top growth and leaves will start dropping like flies, new growth haults and eventually the plant looks like a charlie brown christmas tree.
 
RichardK said:
By the way, one of the earlest signs of a nutrient deficiency is NOT on the new growth, the first thing a plant does when faced with a deficiency of one or more nutrients is cannibalizing (absorbing nutrients from) older leaves...
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Agreed. But sometimes when you're not sure if it's too little of something or too much of something else, the growth tips can give some clues - like being dark, dark green when there's a lot of N in the soil.

But yeah, I'd say the pics above look like it could use a booster shot of ferts about now.
 
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