2 apply some pollen
One and the same, and did you notice.... that C. frutescens 'Cabai Burung Ungu' x C. 'Ghost'.... that one has zero variegation. If I get that one to sprout I'll definitely have to cross it to something with variegated genes. Preferably another interspecific hybrid!cmpman1974 said:Is this that guy that's on Facebook always posting about making variegated crosses?
Chorizo857_62J said:Very interesting and informative.
texas_pepper_man said:I've seen this somewhere before. just can't remember where. The post I saw before had him cutting the petals off the flowers thou, but pretty much same post.
Thanks my friend, I intend to make a splash of excitement as I show what is possible and ask questions like why aren't others doing this?Ruid said:You're one of the most informative and fun new members. Please stick around.
I stand corrected about seeing this post before. Here is the one I sawPollenNut said:
Thank you my friend, I find that joy in sharing information as I truly believe we would be much further along if we all shared this type of information with each other. Take the idea of freezing dried pollen in tiny microcentrifuge containers. Hybridizers have been doing that long before I was a twinkle in my dads eyes, but I how much of that type of information is shared in groups like this? And if it is, can it ever be shared enough? Personally, I wan to encourage others to get excited about what is possible.
You've never seen me cut petals off the flowers, I generally pinch the flower and remove the entire corolla in one or two tugs with my fingers or I'll dig into the calyx itself with my fingernails to remove the corolla and anthers prior to the flower opening as I've noticed sometimes the anthers can mature early and release pollen even before the flower opens.
You would be surprised at how many people miss these simple basics. I recently saw one fellow posting seed for sale from a cross he made. He posted pictures where the flowers were never emasculated, but were clearly marked with the pollen donor applied to the stigma of each flower.
The problem with that is of course is that sometimes a flower can pollinate itself even before it opens, but it has a much higher chance of doing so if you actually let the flower open and then pollinate it.
So, you'll see a lot of repetition with me as I truly want people to get the details that are so important to hybridizing. These details are not so easy believe it or not or we would see far less 'uncertain' hybrids out there and those that were bee pollinated while they might still exist... I think more people have fun and are willing to invest more time into those hybrids where they actually know what is hidden in them.
If you don't know you have recessive variegation hidden in a cross or a recessive immature white color gene in the fruit... are you going to try to get that gene to surface? How would you? You'd likely just toss it and definitely wouldn't know enough to backcross to the variegated parent if the variegated parent was from the pollen donor side and from a bee rather than your own hand.
Thanks my friend, I intend to make a splash of excitement as I show what is possible and ask questions like why aren't others doing this?
I've actually found flowers with pollen that has ripened even before the flower opens, but then I've also seen flowers on the same plant not have any pollen even after the flower opens.Dulac said:Yeah, it's best to remove the stamens before they start producing pollen. I remove them with forceps right before the flower opens. You gotta be careful you don't damage the pistol and stigma. I've done this back when I grew hundreds of plants and emasculated while it was scorching hot. You can remove the petals or glue them shut. I typically remove them and use a hand lens to view the stigma while placing pollen on it. You will see the pollen stick to the stigma when it's ready.
As a resource for those who are growing out the seed you have passed out, would you be willing to do a video of your flower selection and hybridizing process? While it might be a bit of a rehash for more experienced growers, it might also help reinforce some of the fundamentals, as well as help those growing out your crosses to better emulate your specific controlled process.