food The Last Great Pizza Thread

cypresshill1973 said:
Too bad here lately is very complicated import these things.
I see orders from Europe and shipping costs are from 90€ of Austria to 150 of Scotland. I guess on America that won't be lower than 200 (they have bigger oven for pros but the price of oven itself is about 350€, i'd be really pissed if i had to pay that much of shipping). In that regard, for once, i'm really lucky since i am at 50 km from where they are produced so i went myself to take it.
Wfo is better, that one is just cheaper (not to mantain i suppose since electricity costs), easier and more comfortable to use and still good enough (i hope :D).
 
The problem is that now the customs office requires too documentation and the costs are very high for purchases abroad. Before it was easy to buy in any country and came home without paperwork. In addition the purchases abroad with credit card, now have an additional tax of 35%.
 
Also there could be frequencies issues...

So that evening turned out... Maybe my biggest fail!!!
Something worse than Baggio penalty of 1994. Or like Pyrrhus win but actually still losing. Or like that guy that i don't remember the name that foresee that people with time would become smarter and more competent with computers (or, speaking about those, Xerox fumbling).
It's not completely my fault since today i had to be at home, after kneading and doing all the calculation at work they revocate that free day because someone was ill... So i made a way too long appretto. I was confident of my flour that needs a long one... But not like that.

Just to say, first pizza, i used too much flour on pizza shovel (never used before in that way).
When i pulled out pizza remaining flour was on fire! Also bottom was burnt and i couldn't  clean it, so it ruined the day.
Really, that dough was impossible to strecht. I made some calzones because of that.

The only decent thing is that:
 
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Next time must be much better.
 
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Had to watch my nieces this afternoon and made them some pizza.  First time doing a 5 day cold ferment with my Italian starter culture.   I was pretty happy with it, just need to stretch the dough a little thinner next time.  Good thing I will be making more pizzas for dinner later….
 
More fanfare required.

If you didn't add diastatic malt, you are getting the nice, dark crust that comes WITH adding it!

Nice looking herbed sauce, and cheese is cooked to my liking, too.

Kind of perfect, for me.
 
Looks great. Looks a tad sauce heavy. That's not a bad thing... until you take a bite and pull all the cheese of because it was floating on sauce. But if that didn't happen, kudos!
 
Crust looks great!
 
I have not used diastatic malt yet. Pizza was cooked on a stone, in a 500 oven. Crust was nice and light.


It's just a sugar, so you are probably getting comparable effect from the ferment ... noted.
 
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Pizza for my wife and I.   Stretched the dough a bit more and it was a nicer crust than the earlier one.  This pie had green olives, chorizo, artichoke hearts, roasted red peppers and jalapeños all marinated in my yellow Bhut infused avocado oil.  Yes I know it is a lot of different flavors, but this was probably one of the tastiest pizzas I have had.   
 
Holy crap that sounds delicious....
 
tctenten said:
Pizza for my wife and I.   Stretched the dough a bit more and it was a nicer crust than the earlier one.  This pie had green olives, chorizo, artichoke hearts, roasted red peppers and jalapeños all marinated in my yellow Bhut infused avocado oil.  Yes I know it is a lot of different flavors, but this was probably one of the tastiest pizzas I have had.   
 
WOW! Dude you crept up outta nowhere as one of the premier pie makers on here! 
 
tctenten said:
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Pizza for my wife and I.   Stretched the dough a bit more and it was a nicer crust than the earlier one.  This pie had green olives, chorizo, artichoke hearts, roasted red peppers and jalapeños all marinated in my yellow Bhut infused avocado oil.  Yes I know it is a lot of different flavors, but this was probably one of the tastiest pizzas I have had.   
looks great. I hate olives. and I would eat that
 
Yesterday i made 3 pizza at a friend's of mine home... No pics, but not really point in showing them, take an average tray pizza of mine, just more topped, and you got that.
 
Instead you got photos of Saporè pizza. No heat but it's not my fault.
Verona is a big city for pizza gourmet since there's Saporè and I Tigli that are the two top on that category. Both with 3 slices of Michelin pizza gourmet.
Different thing than normal pizza, more sophisticated, extremely high quality ingredients, more exotic and overpriced. Overall an heretic pizza, really different than classic. So you can say that those aren't pizza and be right.
The place is small resemebling nearly a bakery. I went there with friends of confraternita della pizza, amateurs but really skilled guys.
 
Pre baked pizzas
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Unfortunately when i asked if i could shot that pizzas was moved and i couldn't take the section because it looked unreal. I didn't eat that but if i could...
 
Mozzarella di pane (bread mozzarella) with burrata pugliese and tomato:
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Cooked with vapor. Really soft. People was asking themselves how that was made.
 
Double crunch with vegetables (pumpkin for sure and maybe scarola), mozzarella fior di latte, straccon veronese, parmigiano reggiano
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That was... Incredible! Ok, there was some ugly bitter vegetable (i hate that) but the consisteny was unreal, really crunchy and light. Taste of bread part amazing. Probabiy the best i've ever had in that regard. All people said that this was amazing.
How this is done? Long rising and lots of water. Meh. That's the basics. Skills means a lot here.
Really, that stuff was so good that fillings were hardly an improvement.
 
Aria di Pane con crudo di Parma 30 mesi (prosciutto aged 30 months) e burrata di Puglia
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Another unreal thing. Just made with "pasta madre viva".
When i picked this up i was surprised on how that actually was light considering also prosciutto and burrata. Probably without that bread floats on air. Maybe i liked better the previous as bread but for sure burrata and prosciutto are some of the best thing ever.
 
Pizza alla pala
1) passata, mozzarella fiordilatte, olive taggiasche, fresh basil
2) pancetta stufata, mozzarella fiordilatte, parmigiano reggiano, fresh basil
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Those were really good. For sure among the best pizza i ever had. But... I think 2 previous were more noteworthy. I wasn't convinced 100% about dough in middle. Still better than mine. :D
 
Extra stuff!!!
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That's not from Saporè.
There were some guys from Roma and one made "maritozzi". Probably 50 of them. Trust, that stuff is excellent! First dessert.
 
Dessert
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Colomba and a dessert called diplomatica. About the second: it remembered me a lot a dessert called putana (=whore, really i'm not joking).
The first one was amazing, probably the best of that type i've ever eaten. Think that one whole (probably of 1kg) costs 30€ that is a price out of mind.
 
Luckily we were in 30 and i spent 26€ otherwise i could have spent twice...
If you happen to go to Verona and are not afraid to pay you can visit that place.
People said that all was really good. Just to compare: take some of the most skilled growers on that site and pay a visit to a master grower and they say with admiration: wow, that guy really knows what he's doing!
Also the chef was here and it was a surprise since we heard that he was around the word on a course (as a teacher i believe), he seems a nice guy.
Not a bad day. Oh, also beer was good. On a final note: i was impressed also about quantity, i 've really eaten a lot and i didn't expected that!
 
Also that confraternita guys are amazing, they gifted me 2 kg of pro yeast powder (i'll never use 1/10 of all that), 1 kg of rice, after Saporè near cars they offered some drinks and a salted colomba made with lard and other pig part (as if we need to eat more)... Amazing.
 
Essegi you Diplomatica, here is a tratitional dessert. Here called "budin de pan" (bread pudin). Only ours grandmothers made it. Is a dessert of old heilroom, It is a dessert old heritage. That little by little it is losing as usual, today is not common to find in restaurants.
 
Not sure if I even want to post after what Essegi just put up in here, but I found agreat way to end a snowy weekend, welcome in March and spend a Sunday evening. Journey Live in Manila playing on the tivo, a pot of red chile pasole simmering on the stove, and I managed to knock out a couple of pizzas in the oven. This one is a cracker crust with pepperoni, mushrooms and New Mexico green chile, with a little fresh basil at the end.
 
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