seeds Trouble with germination

Tybo

Tybo

I have been trying to germinate some yellow scorpion seeds purchased from a vendor that sells a lot of different seeds.
I haven't had not one of them germinate.  I have tried direct in soil, both Jiffy starting mix and miracle grow.  I currently have my last two seeds in a damp paper towel and they have been there for 2 weeks with no sign of a sprout.  Everything is sitting on a heat mat setting at 80*F.  
I started some Datil seeds at the same time and they have all germinated and one of the plants is growing it's 4th set of true leaves!
What is the secret to getting these to germinate?  Could it be the seeds were bad?
I also started some Sweet Datil seeds from same company at the same time and they aren't germinating either!!!!
 
Any help is appreciated since I have lots of other varieties to start later this winter for the 2019 spring season.
 
Thanks
 
 
Tybo said:
 
What is the secret to getting these to germinate?  Could it be the seeds were bad?
 
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The secret to successful germination is to start with good, viable seeds. This is key.  :)  Yes, it sounds like the seeds might be bad. Jiffy seed starting mix with a heat mat is what I typically use, with great results. 80 degrees is about right too. You didn't let the cells dry out at any point did you? Still, I would give the seeds in the Jiffy mix at least 3 weeks or so just to be sure. 
 
Sounds like bad seeds but give it some time. I started with bad seeds a couple months back and they took a long time to germinate (Bhut Jolokia took over 4 weeks) then ended up buying Bhut Jolokia seeds from a reputable company and they germinated in 8 days in exactly the same conditions as the bad seeds.
 
How deep did you plant them? Maybe too deep? If so, they may take some time to come up :)
 
BlackFatalii said:
 
The secret to successful germination is to start with good, viable seeds. This is key.  :)  Yes, it sounds like the seeds might be bad. Jiffy seed starting mix with a heat mat is what I typically use, with great results. 80 degrees is about right too. You didn't let the cells dry out at any point did you? Still, I would give the seeds in the Jiffy mix at least 3 weeks or so just to be sure. 
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Just to clarify, these seeds were started on 10/19.  The cells were not dried out I'm pretty sure.  I used a spray bottle to gently moisten the soil so as not to disturb things too much.  
 
fairyfoam48 said:
Sounds like bad seeds but give it some time. I started with bad seeds a couple months back and they took a long time to germinate (Bhut Jolokia took over 4 weeks) then ended up buying Bhut Jolokia seeds from a reputable company and they germinated in 8 days in exactly the same conditions as the bad seeds.
 
How deep did you plant them? Maybe too deep? If so, they may take some time to come up :)
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Yeah, I'm starting to question the quality of the seeds.  I'm not sure where to buy quality seeds.
I planted them about 1/4" just like any other seed like this.  
I have watched some videos on youtube of people growing peppers and emailed them about where to get the seeds but never get a reply.
I recently ordered some more MOA Scotch Bonnets from a site I found on here but have not received them yet.  
I am not in a big hurry but at this rate, I would never get them growing before spring :cry: .
I do have Datil's growing so I'll have to prune them to keep them manageable this winter!!
 
moruga welder said:
you use a propagator with a dome ? 
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I did use the dome for a while but the seed companies instructions said not to so I removed the dome and left the bottom part on the heat mat.
 
Tybo said:
 
I did use the dome for a while but the seed companies instructions said not to so I removed the dome and left the bottom part on the heat mat.
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just  turn it sideways a few times a day , works like a charm , been doing it for yrs. with great success , just misting the top of the cups a little not to a soaking point tho ,    you'll get it my friend     :party:
 
moruga welder said:
just  turn it sideways a few times a day , works like a charm , been doing it for yrs. with great success , just misting the top of the cups a little not to a soaking point tho ,    you'll get it my friend     :party:
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fairyfoam48 said:
Try with the dome on for a few days to keep the humidity up and moisture in.
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Ok, I have replaced the dome.  Thanks for the help.
 
Tybo said:
 
 
 
Ok, I have replaced the dome.  Thanks for the help.
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moruga welder said:
about 15mins. each time , lets a little fresh air in ,     :party:
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Well, after replacing the dome, of the last 2 seeds that I had and in the wet paper towel, one of them has sprouted!!!!!!!!  I just put it in some seed starting mix and back under the dome.  Hopefully this little one will grow!  I'll keep an eye out for the other seed in the paper towel.  The seeds in the starter cups I'm about to give up on.  
 
Tybo said:
 
 
 
 
Well, after replacing the dome, of the last 2 seeds that I had and in the wet paper towel, one of them has sprouted!!!!!!!!  I just put it in some seed starting mix and back under the dome.  Hopefully this little one will grow!  I'll keep an eye out for the other seed in the paper towel.  The seeds in the starter cups I'm about to give up on.  
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Once they sprout get them out from under the dome or they can dampen off and die
 
austin87 said:
Once they sprout get them out from under the dome or they can dampen off and die
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The ONE seed has sprouted in the paper towel.  I moved it to seed starter mix so when it pops through the soil I'll definitely take it out of the dome.
Thanks
It is pretty sad that out of about 15 seeds only one has actually produced a root and it isn't popped through the soil yet.  
Fingers crossed.
 
Tybo said:
 
 
The ONE seed has sprouted in the paper towel.  I moved it to seed starter mix so when it pops through the soil I'll definitely take it out of the dome.
Thanks
It is pretty sad that out of about 15 seeds only one has actually produced a root and it isn't popped through the soil yet.  
Fingers crossed.
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I know the paper towel method is popular but I dont get it. Why would you move a fragile seedling? Ive germinated in small cups with a dome but I like rock wool cubes in a tray with a heating mat and humidity dome.

Once it pops, just move the cube out of the dome and into soil. 1/4 fertilizer since the rock wool is inept and the seedling wont get any nutrients until it grows out of the rockwool and into media.
 
austin87 said:
I know the paper towel method is popular but I dont get it. Why would you move a fragile seedling? Ive germinated in small cups with a dome but I like rock wool cubes in a tray with a heating mat and humidity dome.

Once it pops, just move the cube out of the dome and into soil. 1/4 fertilizer since the rock wool is inept and the seedling wont get any nutrients until it grows out of the rockwool and into media.
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Because planting my seeds directly in seed starting mix didn't work.  I only had 2 seeds left and after seeing several videos of successful growers on Youtube using the wet paper towel method I gave it a try.  At least the one seed germinated.  As to whether it will grow is yet to be seen.
I am gonna order some more seeds from a different vendor and try again.
 
austin87 said:
I know the paper towel method is popular but I dont get it. Why would you move a fragile seedling? Ive germinated in small cups with a dome but I like rock wool cubes in a tray with a heating mat and humidity dome.

Once it pops, just move the cube out of the dome and into soil. 1/4 fertilizer since the rock wool is inept and the seedling wont get any nutrients until it grows out of the rockwool and into media.
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OK, well here is the one and only plant to germinate!  At least it is out of the soil now.  Hopefully it will thrive.
A Trinidad Yellow Scorpion!  I did move it out from under the dome and off the heat pad.  
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