fertilizer Using Flower Fertiliser to boost flower production ?

Hammerfall

Hammerfall

Hi Guys,
 
i saw at the gardenr stone some Fertiliser for annual flowers...  to mak ethe bloom all summer long....
 
any one here tried to use a 10-52-10 fert to boost the flower production ? (to eventually have much more peppers?
 
does it has impact?
any info to share ?
 
Trying to make my plants switch to flower prdcution

Thanks
 
I dont think bloom boosting work all that well with peppers, so having high phosphate compared to nitrogen/potassium will not have much benefit for making the pepper produce more flowers. I would perhaps try using something that have a bit less nitrogen compared to say potassium to make the fertilizer more useful for pepper growing and if the fertilizer also have some calcium added in there too, the better it would be as pepper fertilizer.
 
Hammerfall said:
Hi Guys,
 
i saw at the gardenr stone some Fertiliser for annual flowers...  to mak ethe bloom all summer long....
 
any one here tried to use a 10-52-10 fert to boost the flower production ? (to eventually have much more peppers?
 
does it has impact?
any info to share ?
 
Trying to make my plants switch to flower prdcution
Thanks
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You're in raised beds right? High numbers like that mean high salts. IMO high salt nutes and soil aren't very compatible. In the long run it'll kill any living soil biology and the soil will need to be replaced rather than renewed and reused. IMO nutes like that are better used in a medium that is easily flushed and usually trashed after harvest. If not running organic, best to use lower #'s like Tiger Bloom which will have much less impact on the soil. With lower #'s you can use more frequently which is better than giving them a hardcore blast occasionally, imo.
 
Bloom boosters are a myth. Good culture and consistent fertilization when the plant is in growth phase will always produce better than constantly tweaking your fertilization regime.
 
I've been growing a plumeria in a container for about 2 years- if you look online you will find many people trying to push insanely high phosphorous concentrations as plumeria fertilizer. Yet you will never find anyone put a bloom booster to a complete nutrient with a scientifically validated NPK ratio. Its because they're all selling snake oil or would rather believe in horticultural hearsay. Plumerias bloom when they have all of their nutrient needs met not because you dumped a bunch of phosphorous on their roots. The same can be said for most flowering plants. I've been using dynagro foliage pro (9-3-6) on my plumeria weekly and I have had continuous blooms (10 + flowers per head) for months. I use the same on my peppers and have no problems with yield/flowering/fruit set whatsoever. Save your money and take a pass on the bloom formulas. 
 
I can't add much to what thefish said... 9-3-6 reduces to 3-1-2, and that's what the American Rose society recommends for growing show roses. If they don't recommend a high P and high K fertilizer, then I can't imagine why we'd want one...
 
To increase flowers, I use a foliar mist of micronutrients with humic every 7-10 days.
I've read boron and molybdenum are the two important ones for this scenario. I've also heard of spraying 20 mule team borax solution. Never tried it.
 
It has been working for me. The study i posted demonstrated a 21% increased yield for anuums. Including other foliar applications and a control group in fallow soil.
 
Is it possible that "fallow" is the key word here?

If there were anything that were proven inconclusively to produce a 21% increase in yield over an already productive crop, I suspect that it would be in widespread use...
 
Hammerfall said:
Trying to make my plants switch to flower prdcution
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If your plant isn't blooming, adding flowering fertilizer isn't going to make it happen. Hormones regulate that, not fertilizer.

That being said, if you want to encourage blooming, you want on organic liquid fertilizer. It doesn't need to be high in K or P, but it does need to contain the hormones required to encourage blooming. YOu would be looking for liquid seaweed, and/or liquid fish. My kids are having babies before they're grown up, all the time...
 
solid7 said:
Is it possible that "fallow" is the key word here?

If there were anything that were proven inconclusively to produce a 21% increase in yield over an already productive crop, I suspect that it would be in widespread use...
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There is a product called Inocucor that actually has shown yield increases in various flowering crops between 10 and 30%
 
They indicate that foliar feeding a 1:100 solution at flowering will increase yeild and fruit set.
 
solid7 said:
Is it possible that "fallow" is the key word here?

If there were anything that were proven inconclusively to produce a 21% increase in yield over an already productive crop, I suspect that it would be in widespread use...
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Foliar micros are pretty commonly used. Borax spray is often touted as a bloom enhancer.
The emphasis in this study was on continuous cropping, which lowers soil nutrient uptake and transportation. The fallow group was used as a baseline to measure different foliar remedies against. It discusses that they also measured these treatments against a standard fertilized group (not under ongoing continuous cropping conditions). It also describes specimens that didn't appear deficient in B or other nutrients, but responded favorably to supplementation despite that.
 
solid7 said:
If your plant isn't blooming, adding flowering fertilizer isn't going to make it happen. Hormones regulate that, not fertilizer.

That being said, if you want to encourage blooming, you want on organic liquid fertilizer. It doesn't need to be high in K or P, but it does need to contain the hormones required to encourage blooming. YOu would be looking for liquid seaweed, and/or liquid fish. My kids are having babies before they're grown up, all the time...
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May we please see a study on fish/seaweed hormones encouraging early bloom?
 
One alternative to commercial inoculants is to produce your own BIM with bokashi method of transplanting microbes from natural environment to garden. Screened wood box and sticky rice under dry leaves near an existing colony. Cultivate and transfer into a larger media to expand and use in containers or ground at home.
 
Mr. West said:
May we please see a study on fish/seaweed hormones encouraging early bloom?
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Oh, I didn't suggest early bloom. The only thing that I know that causes "early" bloom, is stress.

But your studies...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0254629908003153
http://soeagra.com/abr/vol2/5.pdf
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02185785


That's just a few. There are SO many studies on the benefits of seaweed. We need to be careful with the correlations that we draw, as to what they actually do. But every study that you'll probably ever read, points to the fact that seaweed extract improves the efficacy of fertilizer. What they don't all tell you, is how the different compounds actually work in the plant. It's the growth hormones that we're after!
 
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