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AlabamaJack
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Thrips
Yes...I was afraid of that. The interesting thing is that one of the plants sits amongst a bunch of bhuts and the other sits amongst a bunch of Habs - yet these are the only 2 plants that have been affected. I will try the confidor. But I might wait until the current batch of pods ripen. They have already started changing colour. I might knock off the crook leaves in the meantime.
Unless anyone thinks I should take another approach...
Unless anyone thinks I should take another approach...
AlabamaJack
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I will give you a little information and you can make up your own mind...
female thrips begin laying eggs at about 1-3 days after hatching in hot weather and about 10-15 days in cooler weather....they have about 10-100+ eggs at a time and will reproduce 12-15 times a season....
I have run the numbers for this population starting today with one female thrip laying 50 eggs a time every 3 days and included 3 generations after the initial female...
here is a picture of the graph and the numbers...if you want to see the math, I will gladly share it with you...
I hope you see it is urgent to treat these things if it is hot where you are....at least isolate them from any plants you don't thrips to spread to...
This is, of course, my opinion only....
female thrips begin laying eggs at about 1-3 days after hatching in hot weather and about 10-15 days in cooler weather....they have about 10-100+ eggs at a time and will reproduce 12-15 times a season....
I have run the numbers for this population starting today with one female thrip laying 50 eggs a time every 3 days and included 3 generations after the initial female...
here is a picture of the graph and the numbers...if you want to see the math, I will gladly share it with you...
I hope you see it is urgent to treat these things if it is hot where you are....at least isolate them from any plants you don't thrips to spread to...
This is, of course, my opinion only....
I haven't seen the difference between mites and thrips infestations, but I guess the end result or the treatment is the same?
Anyway Simon, delaying action is just going to make the situation worse in the long run. Would you rather a have a few pods now but a few dead plants to come later, or cut it back and treat now and have a healthy mature plant to rebound for spring in a few months?
Anyway Simon, delaying action is just going to make the situation worse in the long run. Would you rather a have a few pods now but a few dead plants to come later, or cut it back and treat now and have a healthy mature plant to rebound for spring in a few months?
AlabamaJack
eXtreme
Pablo..in my experience, mites/aphids cause the very top growth of he plant to look "mangled", but thrips cause the leaves to curl downward like these...
I have recommended it many times but will recommend it again...
get a 10X X 20X jewelers loop and you can identify any bug on your plant...here is a link to a set of loops...10X, 30X, and 10X x 20X
http://www.amazon.com/3pcs-Jewelers-Loupe-Loupes-10X-20X/dp/B001C9LG60/ref=sr_1_1?s=jewelry&ie=UTF8&qid=1339252166&sr=1-1&keywords=10X+20X+jewelers+loop
I have recommended it many times but will recommend it again...
get a 10X X 20X jewelers loop and you can identify any bug on your plant...here is a link to a set of loops...10X, 30X, and 10X x 20X
http://www.amazon.com/3pcs-Jewelers-Loupe-Loupes-10X-20X/dp/B001C9LG60/ref=sr_1_1?s=jewelry&ie=UTF8&qid=1339252166&sr=1-1&keywords=10X+20X+jewelers+loop
Ok.
Thanks.
I have had a few plants with those tight downward curled distorted leaves and always thought mites because others have had the same symptoms and said it was mites.
I know too well aphid damage as every plant I had was attacked by aphids, and what I had later on wasn't like aphid damage, but like Simons picture, small curled downwards leaves.
Besides the fruit flies and their maggots, the massive leaf drop due to bacteria/fungus, aphids and this thrips problem, it was a fun season.
Stupid 30ft fig tree here and mandarin tree breeding fruit flies and full of disease. Right now the fig tree is dropping all it's leaves due to fig rust, and the ground is full of root knot nematodes. Glad I don't own this place and I'm moving out soon. But I've experienced every possible problem with chilli growing while I've lived here!
Thanks for the clarification on thrips.
Edit: forgot the slugs and snails which are in huge numbers because they feed on the figs that drop due to the fruit flies rotting them before I can pick them up in the morning...
Thanks.
I have had a few plants with those tight downward curled distorted leaves and always thought mites because others have had the same symptoms and said it was mites.
I know too well aphid damage as every plant I had was attacked by aphids, and what I had later on wasn't like aphid damage, but like Simons picture, small curled downwards leaves.
Besides the fruit flies and their maggots, the massive leaf drop due to bacteria/fungus, aphids and this thrips problem, it was a fun season.
Stupid 30ft fig tree here and mandarin tree breeding fruit flies and full of disease. Right now the fig tree is dropping all it's leaves due to fig rust, and the ground is full of root knot nematodes. Glad I don't own this place and I'm moving out soon. But I've experienced every possible problem with chilli growing while I've lived here!
Thanks for the clarification on thrips.
Edit: forgot the slugs and snails which are in huge numbers because they feed on the figs that drop due to the fruit flies rotting them before I can pick them up in the morning...
Right...so thrips it is...
Fortunately (!) I had a fruit fly infestation earlier this year and the treatment for that is also good for thrips (and any other living organism I suspect).
The only issue now is the rain. I dont think the treatment is as effective as it could be in the wet. And the wind we are getting is likely to blow the stuff all over the yard before it make the distance form the spray nozzle to the plant!
Fortunately (!) I had a fruit fly infestation earlier this year and the treatment for that is also good for thrips (and any other living organism I suspect).
The only issue now is the rain. I dont think the treatment is as effective as it could be in the wet. And the wind we are getting is likely to blow the stuff all over the yard before it make the distance form the spray nozzle to the plant!
Yeah the wind today was pretty bad. 5 pots of mine got blown over, a yellow 7 full of green pods got it's branch snapped off. No rain and not much wind to speak of now though so get out there with a torch LOL.
I raked a bin full of those crappy diseased fig tree leaves up yesterday, and now the backyard ground is full of the rotten leaves again!
I had a big fruit fly problem as well. Thats the reason why I started planting seeds in april, heats of seeds saved from fruit fly ruined pods and not many pods to eat.
I raked a bin full of those crappy diseased fig tree leaves up yesterday, and now the backyard ground is full of the rotten leaves again!
I had a big fruit fly problem as well. Thats the reason why I started planting seeds in april, heats of seeds saved from fruit fly ruined pods and not many pods to eat.
Yes, I did a bit of repotting myself yesterday as well. Have tied the big ones up so they wont fall over now. Oh yeah...and the greenhouse blew away. Well, not too far. But far enough to knock over everything inside. That has been much more securely anchored now as well. More coming tomorrow allegedly.
Just better be all over before the footy on Thursday night.
