What's Going On With This Jalapeno?

timh59

timh59

I'm new to the whole growing peppers thing, hoping somebody can tell me why these leaves look like they do. TIA...
 
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Hey timh59,
 
Welcome to THP.  The plant looks okay in that it should be fine though it appears that your soil is very wet.  Peppers don't like wet feat - needing less water/maintenance than most other plants in my experience.  Too much fertilizer will also hurt them, but idk what you may be using.  
 
What's it planted in?  How much sun per day does it get?
 
Thanks for the welcome, SmokenFire.  It's in Mirace Gro potting soil and it gets sun all day long. I ordered up a soil ph meter and moisture checker yesterday, it's true I might be giving it too much water. 
I thought maybe calcium might not be moving in it because of the cool nights, or bugs might be bothering it, IDK.
 
Peppers do like well drained lose soil , wet but not to much and grow better with slow release fertiliser and PH between 6-7. From what i can see i have the felling that your soil may be a little bit too compact and wet. Mixing sand or coco could help the roots to spead and prevent the moisture problem ..cool nights may slow down growth a bit ..you may want to bring them inside if it drops below 55F  but overall your plants looks great. 
 
I got my moisture meter in today, all of my pots pegged out on wet, and haven't even been watered in two days.  :tear:
 
The pH looks to be around 6 or 7.
 
I was looking out the window yesterday and a mockingbird landed on my Arbol and started eating bugs, then another one landed on a nearby bucket and was pecking at something in the dirt. That was pretty cool. :cool:
 
 
 
I have the same problem with MG potting soil, it just doesn't drain fast enough for peppers when they're young, especially indoors. This will be my last year using it, going to move to something else next year for starting them.
 
They're all staying in the buckets. I've been doing a lot of reading on here, coco seems intriguing, but I wouldn't have a clue about feeding them in it. Need to do some more reading up, I guess.
 
timh59 said:
They're all staying in the buckets. I've been doing a lot of reading on here, coco seems intriguing, but I wouldn't have a clue about feeding them in it. Need to do some more reading up, I guess.
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You won't feed em coco coir, you'll use that in your seed starting mix.  Really helps add some draining to the soil mix, I heartily endorse in conjunction with compost, peat and good dirt.  :)
 
Welp, I think this plant is going to be alright, but I'm kinda thinking all my little ones might not make it, so I might be starting over almost from scratch soon. I have some coco ordered up, and some Dyna Gro and cal/mag too.
 
SmokenFire said:
 
You won't feed em coco coir, you'll use that in your seed starting mix.  Really helps add some draining to the soil mix, I heartily endorse in conjunction with compost, peat and good dirt.  :)
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Me too! The endorsement that is.. Coir, compost, and peat + perlite is good stuff. I'm doing experiments as we speak with that media combo alongside a straight coir (no peat) chips fiber and pith with vermicompost and perlite and the performance is similar but the feeding/watering on the 'straight coir/no peat mix' seems to be more than you're used to! Ie fertigating twice daily instead of every other day. Will continue experiments and keep posted as it moves along. I'm feeding GH flora trio hydroponic nutrients every watering and straight water once a week.

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timh59 said:
Update: This thing is really taking off since I started giving it some Dyna Gro:
 
 
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Peppers coming in:
 
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Wow looks good man! Nutrient salts FTW! LOL! But yeah I see lots of people loving on the dynagro foliage pro.. Might have to give up the alchemy potion making once these 4 bottles of GH products are finished (already half gone quarts) and give the DG one part fertilizer a try!

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I mix sand in as well.
Trying to explain in Thai here where I live at a garden shop that I want vermiculite or some such will get me nowhere! :)
 
Berzerker said:
Peppers do like well drained lose soil , wet but not to much and grow better with slow release fertiliser and PH between 6-7. From what i can see i have the felling that your soil may be a little bit too compact and wet. Mixing sand or coco could help the roots to spead and prevent the moisture problem ..cool nights may slow down growth a bit ..you may want to bring them inside if it drops below 55F  but overall your plants looks great. 
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Agreed about the thai garden shops. Best thing to do if you really want your hands on that kind of stuff is ordering online. There is two hydroponic online shops where you can buy it. I also saw it on lazaada.

I ordered a 1:6 mix of vermiculite and perlite, 3 days delivery time.

I currently use a soil mix of gardensoil, wormcasting and guano from homepro together with cococoir and perlite/vermiculite.

Worked out much for me compared to the gardencentre soils and sand, however it dries out much quicker which takes some time to get use to .
 
I grow in pure coco with GH flora series. I feed with every watering. I know others amend coir, though I've had my best results with sifting the Coco to remove the fine pith. It really increases the drainage and the amount of times I can water. There are a number of ways you can grow with coir.

I have it set up so that I can grow Jolokia in my short 90 grow season.
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timh59 said:
Update: This thing is really taking off since I started giving it some Dyna Gro:
 
 
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It's the calcium in the DynaGro.  You need extra calcium concentration upfront with coco, because it latches onto a certain amount of calcium, right off the bat.  Also, if there is any salt left in it, that can also bind calcium.  Most ferts won't cut it for coco.
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I use CNS17 Grow for coco.  Like the DynaGro, it's a thick white substance, that is minerals bound with calcium.  The coco is unbeatable for structure and aeration.  And as mentioned, when combined with perlite and compost, is a powerhouse grow media.
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I've got some old posts around here on my hybrid "hempy" method, which I've had outstanding results with.  My climate is particularly harsh - I have super high humidity, extreme UV, and saline air.  By comparison, most people can just throw things in the ground, and it grows without hassle.  Having lived in several states, and grown in all of them, I can say that Central/South Florida is as rough as it gets for me.  But...  The coco/compost/perlite buckets have done better than anything else down here for me.
 
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