Windchicken 2013

PIC 1 · Aug 6, 2013

Wow !
Cool pod shots, the brown actually looks like a burgandy...

windchicken · Aug 7, 2013

KiNGDeNNiZ said:
anyone wanna try growing these...?? matt if i can score a couple more pods like this i will send you a pod or two to review and compare it with the one gary has

Those are cool-looking KD—7 Pot shaped...and those came from seeds/pods from the F1 NagaBrain I sent you last summer?

buddy said:
as always your pods look amazing! i'm really liking the nagabrains!

Thanks Buddy!

Spicegeist said:
These are very nice, they should meet my Choco Bhut x Douglahs...

THSC Y7s are very nice, the plants I grow are descended from their seed... I've managed to grow more than one plant and select in the past few years too...

Okay, sorry to ask, you probably covered this a few pages ago... Nagabrain is a Dorset Naga x Brain Strain? And it's brown because...

Thanks Charles...I've always wondered if it was the Hippy Y7s you used in the BMJxY7....(Those plant are pumping out obnoxious amounts of pods, by the way...All 4 behave as the Bonda parent in that respect....I'll post pix soon.)

A couple of years ago Jamie sent me some Yellow 7 seeds...I planted them out last year—10 plants, if I remember correctly. They all grew true except for one, whose very first pod looked like this:

Since Jamie was growing both Dorset Naga and Brain Strain in his garden we assumed they had crossed and the seed had been mistakenly mixed in with that of the 7s...We named it "NagaBrain", and the name stuck. I saved seeds from that F1 plant and also shared some of the fresh pods with a couple THP members. This year I started 8 F2 NagaBrain plants, and when the fruit began to color up it became apparent that the parents of the F1 cross were more likely Dorset Naga and Yellow 7, as both KingDenniz and I grew one F2 plant each which produced Yellow 7 pods. But we were so accustomed to the name "NagaBrain" that we decided to keep on using it. I cannot explain the extreme Brain-like bumpiness of many of the pods, other than environmental influences. A Google image search for "Dorset Naga" turns up pix of pods that seem to be way smoother than the NagaBrain, so the name is not entirely inappropriate. Of my 8 F2 plants, 4 are producing red pods, one is producing yellow pods, one is producing the brown pods, and I managed to kill the other two plants. Of the 4 plants producing red pods, 2 seem to be producing Naga-shaped pods and 2 are producing pods that are 7 Pot shaped.

PIC 1 said:
Wow !
Cool pod shots, the brown actually looks like a burgandy...

Thanks Greg! My boss came in my map room and saw those pods laying on the table...He said "Wow, you've got purple peppers..."

Spicegeist · Aug 7, 2013

Haha, I think I'm more confused after the explanation. Between the assumed possible parents: Y7, Dorset Naga & Brain Strain, none are brown and yet you're getting those beautiful brown pods? Well, they look great whatever their lineage!

windchicken · Aug 7, 2013

Lol, thanks so much!

I figure maybe a genetic mutation? How do the other brown varieties come about, anyway? Seems like every super hot has a chocolate version...

Spicegeist · Aug 7, 2013

Of course, that might be... or somewhere in the mix there's a brown pepper in the family line... it's all very mysterious :cool:

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windchicken said:
Stripped a few of my plants this morning to make room for the last round of pods that set right before the heat...These are the Chocolate NagaBrains:

Trippa · Aug 8, 2013

The bumpiness could easily come from the yellow 7 side of things ... My thsc yellow 7s are generally very brainy in appearance especially when it heats up. Great looking pods regardless!!

Trippa · Aug 8, 2013

Oh and by the way I believe you about your 8 inch pods. .... Never in doubt

not with you Gary ...

and your Master garden skills

windchicken · Aug 8, 2013

Spicegeist said:
Of course, that might be... or somewhere in the mix there's a brown pepper in the family line... it's all very mysterious .

Thanks, I didn't think of that...I need to school myself on the genetics thing...

My Dad and my wife are both doing the GenoGraphics cheek swab DNA thing...No results back yet, but I would love for some brown to show up in either family line... :cool:

...The former because my Dad is a bit of a racist, and the latter because my wife is way too good of a soul singer, especially for a Northern California girl....

Trippa said:
The bumpiness could easily come from the yellow 7 side of things ... My thsc yellow 7s are generally very brainy in appearance especially when it heats up. Great looking pods regardless!!

There you have it, Trippa. Now that you say that, many of my Hippy Y7s are especially bumpy pods...Thanks!

Trippa said:
Oh and by the way I believe you about your 8 inch pods. .... Never in doubt not with you Gary ... and your Master garden skills

Dude, I knew you were joking...I got I huge laugh out of that...If I ever leave you an opening like that, please take it! And thanks for compliment!

meatfreak · Aug 8, 2013

windchicken said:
Lol, thanks Scott!

Thanks for stopping by Dave! I don't believe I have the patience to slog through all those pages of my blathering...

"Earthy" describes the Chocolate NagaBrain well...To be honest, however, my sinuses are toast right now, and I can barely even taste my Yellow 7s. Jamie has a great review of the the Chocolate NagaBrain on his blog...

Sometimes I try to think what life was like for the Native Americans that lived in Louisiana during the summertime before we smelly Europeans arrived...No fans, no window screens, I wonder if they had even figured out mosquito netting...Probably some serious natural selection going on, because I know my thin-skinned lily white ass would not make it through the first summer!

If I had to live in Houston in the summer I would have killed someone already! More natural selection?

Wow, thanks Pia! Check Jamie's (romy6) glog for an excellent description of the NagaBrain's flavor and aroma...As for the heat, some of the pods are definitely super hots, while others are more in the 500K or so range. We will definitely be selecting for heat going forward with successive generations...

Cool, thanks Stefan! Look for another Doux Tres Long pik below...And I have been neglecting to take pix of the awesome Calabrese a Mazzetto—I've never seen anything quite like it, and it's exactly the pepper my wife requested! What are the chances?

I would love to have some help stabilizing both the Red and Chocolate NagaBrain varieties. I'll get you some seeds out in time for next season, as soon as I figure out which plant is producing the true Reds...

Yes, the Chocolates are presenting the true shape I'm looking for, at least they are true to the F1 cross, and they are a very nice size as well...

Lol, thanks Jamison...They're not the hottest peppers I've had, but they do command respect...

A couple of harvest pix from this morning...This shot of Doux Très Long des Landes (meatfreak) is for Trippa... I told my wife these pods were 10 inches long:

Ashe County Pimento (kentishman). This variety is now compulsory for my garden. Sugary nuggets of deliciousness:

Chile de Onza, (left, CPI) and New Mexico 6-4 Heritage (right, CPI). The part of the garden these pods came from is experiencing daily nuclear temps, around 120ºF. I expect larger pods when in cools off, around the end of September:

Very nice pull you got there, Gary. Those Landes sure love their humid and heat :lol:

Are you cooking with them (I mean your entire harvest) or drying and powder them?

Devv · Aug 8, 2013

I thought I commented here the other day, either it didn't stick or senility is phasing in....or maybe it was the '70's IDK

Pics and pods look fantastic, and nice pulls you're getting there in this heat!

Bigoledude · Aug 9, 2013

Hey Gary

Are any of your plants continuing to produce through this heat? Which ones? That Ashe County Pimento does look delicious. Ray

windchicken · Aug 9, 2013

meatfreak said:
Very nice pull you got there, Gary. Those Landes sure love their humid and heat Are you cooking with them (I mean your entire harvest) or drying and powder them?

Thanks Stefan! France this ain't...vraiment, but those French babies seem to love it here...Right now they are almost getting ripe faster than I can pick them...I'm not exaggerating!

Drying but not powdering...I wait until right before I add my dried chiles to the food to grind them. I get way more flavor and aroma that way (and that's how they do it in Oaxaca :cool:

) Besides that, I eat as many fresh pods as I can every day, and try to ship several boxes of fresh pods a week...

Devv said:
I thought I commented here the other day, either it didn't stick or senility is phasing in....or maybe it was the '70's IDK

Pics and pods look fantastic, and nice pulls you're getting there in this heat!

Lol, Scott, you are a kindred spirit for sure! I always say that if you can remember the 70s then you weren't really there!

Thanks for the kudos...Many of the annuums, and even my super hots at the house, seem to still be setting fresh pods, or maybe they're just still "coasting" from the temperate weather that ended a couple weeks ago....

Bigoledude said:
Hey Gary

Are any of your plants continuing to produce through this heat? Which ones? That Ashe County Pimento does look delicious. Ray

Hi Ray! Like I said to Scott in my reply above, I'm getting real nice production right now from all my healthy plants, but it's been so soon since the temperate weather was over that they might just be "finishing up" what they started on back then. Now that I said that, the Thai Birdseed, Chile de Onza, Zapotec Jalapeño, Chilhuacle Rojo, and Doux Très Long des Landes are pumping out obnoxious amounts of pods...At home in the 'burbs my big old OW F1 NagaBrain and her litter mate the OW Hippy Y7 seem to be reveling in the heat, setting pods and new vegetation just like nothing happened...But in that neighborhood the overall heat is nowhere near the blast furnace conditions the Mexican annuums in the country garden are braving right now...

Hollah on the PM if you want some Ashe County Pimento seeds. (I doubt if the fresh fruit would ship well in this heat...)

stc3248 · Aug 9, 2013

Those are some freakin fantastic looking pods Gary!!! 10" wow...very impressive, you're taking your Pod Porn to a whole new level ~~Holmes~~ homes!

windchicken · Aug 9, 2013

Lol, thanks Shane! I'm not compensating...really!

If I were I would be growing Big Jims!

patrick · Aug 9, 2013

Some good looking pods. The Chocolate NagaBrain. I like it!

Devv · Aug 9, 2013

I always say that if you can remember the 70s then you weren't really there!

LOL!, Took some of the 80's to learn how to ~~sober up~~ behave....those were great times never to be had again.

windchicken · Aug 9, 2013

patrick said:
Some good looking pods. The Chocolate NagaBrain. I like it!

Thanks Patrick!

Devv said:
LOL!, Took some of the 80's to learn how to sober up behave....those were great times never to be had again.

It was real fun for sure...We all must have had lots of grace to have gotten away with some the stupid s&*t we did...I should have been dead or in prison several times...

Fun times....Now I'm just glad when I wake up in the morning!

Devv · Aug 9, 2013

Yeah! And our kids and grandkids can't get have near the fun we had without it becoming a crime.

I remember back in '74 or '75, I had a 65 Nova I built with a pretty radical V8, all the good stuff back then, 4 speed, radical cam, Munci close ratio, headers. Coming back from the local beach on the north side of the Island. The local PD was the one speeding, and cut the corner close, we almost clicked, I saw the brake lights, and shoot! I knew to fly! Hell, back then ( in Head of the Harbor, Long Island) if they pulled you over you were almost strip searched. I hammered down and ditched it in a driveway where Grandma was serving iced tea to those who were raking the leaves in her estate. I still chuckle today, and as I typo...lol when the wannabe local yokal blew by....and I backed out and went the other way back into town. Good times and I'm glad I'm here to talk about them...

Bigoledude · Aug 9, 2013

I'm not one bit surprised of your generous offer of the AC Pimento. But, I'm good for what remains of this season.

I will attempt to over-winter all that I have started here. Some in-ground, the rest in containers. It will be very interesting to see what plants survive our winters outdoors. The NagaBrains will be represented with a couple in-ground and a couple in containers. I wish I had the energy to plant/care-for the number of plants it would take to determine if there is a difference in survivability between those in-kind plants grown in-ground and those grown in containers.

My prediction is the in-ground will do better as far as the cold is concerned. My worry though, is that the soil-borne pathogens will probably take their toll on the in-ground plants. The viruses, wilts and bacteria infections give us skull-cramps down here.

windchicken · Aug 22, 2013

Devv said:
Yeah! And our kids and grandkids can't get have near the fun we had without it becoming a crime.

I remember back in '74 or '75, I had a 65 Nova I built with a pretty radical V8, all the good stuff back then, 4 speed, radical cam, Munci close ratio, headers. Coming back from the local beach on the north side of the Island. The local PD was the one speeding, and cut the corner close, we almost clicked, I saw the brake lights, and shoot! I knew to fly! Hell, back then ( in Head of the Harbor, Long Island) if they pulled you over you were almost strip searched. I hammered down and ditched it in a driveway where Grandma was serving iced tea to those who were raking the leaves in her estate. I still chuckle today, and as I typo...lol when the wannabe local yokal blew by....and I backed out and went the other way back into town. Good times and I'm glad I'm here to talk about them...

Wow, sweet ride Scott! We sure all had guardian angels back then...or we wouldn't even be here now!

Bigoledude said:
I'm not one bit surprised of your generous offer of the AC Pimento. But, I'm good for what remains of this season.

I will attempt to over-winter all that I have started here. Some in-ground, the rest in containers. It will be very interesting to see what plants survive our winters outdoors. The NagaBrains will be represented with a couple in-ground and a couple in containers. I wish I had the energy to plant/care-for the number of plants it would take to determine if there is a difference in survivability between those in-kind plants grown in-ground and those grown in containers.

My prediction is the in-ground will do better as far as the cold is concerned. My worry though, is that the soil-borne pathogens will probably take their toll on the in-ground plants. The viruses, wilts and bacteria infections give us skull-cramps down here.

Lol, Louisiana is an incubator for just about anything that grows, right Ray?...Every time that TV ad comes on where the dude says "Tell your doctor if you've been to an area where certain bacteria are common." HAHAHA...What bacteria do we NOT have?

These may look like big Cayennes, but they are actually sweet peppers from France—Doux Très Long des Landes (meatfreak). I was initially concerned that they would not do well in our Louisiana heat and humidity, but apparently these peppers have some Acadian (Cajun) in their DNA—

Plant No. 1:

The whole DTL grow: