That's kind of an oxymoron though, most natural mutations are automatically stable as long as they're self-pollinated seeds.Ocho Cinco said:I think it is a natural variant and that it is still unstable.
at least one of us was paying attention in class ! i was busy staring at the chicks and getting home to play the drums ! lolajdrew said:Ocho, there is the thing and why I ordered in a tiny number of seeds. If it is a cross, I dont think there has been enough time for it to be stable. But if it is a natural variant from recessive genes finding other, I would think it could be stable right from the start because the Primo is stable.
This is all from my 7th grade natural science class. Sure there are people here with better eduction in genes. So please do let me know if this does not make sense. Stable brown eyed daddy has baby with stable brown eyed mamma, baby might have blue eyes because brown eyed people can have recessive genes for blue eyes. A blue eyed baby could not pass on brown eye trait because if it had the brown eyed gene it would have brown eyes.
If the original plant was RY an crossed with itself RY the outcome would -seem- (just guessing).
RR would turn out red.
RY would turn out red.
YY would turn out yellow.
Since the yellow pod producing seeds could only contain yellow genes, I would -think- it stable for color and the other factors would be as stable as its parents.
Again, this is a 7th grade education in genes. No clue if it really works this way.
Frdturner, I did but no reply. Thing is, note no mention of a yellow primo on his site. Thinking someone else created or refined the yellow. There seems to be no real rules or guidelines for pepper names, so who knows? Love the original Primo btw.
Helvete said:That's kind of an oxymoron though, most natural mutations are automatically stable as long as they're self-pollinated seeds.
From what I understand the yellow primo, as well as the yellow butch t are both natural variants, not crosses.
The only uncertain stable is the dominants .. You could have 8 generations of plants showing red but each one carrying a resesive yellow and then POW on the 9th gen it's spits out a yellow child.. That will be stable as its resesive provided there's no underlying resesive Cl genes or something .. But when all the plants are showing dominants you can only hope that during the breeding process it knocked out recessives ..it's like roulette black could hit 10 times in a row and then a red comes out ..Ocho Cinco said:
I did not know that. I thought that even the color variants had to be stabilized.
I've noticed that the reapers haphazardly floating around on this site don't actually look like Ed's. I don't really want to say too much though.ajdrew said:Am wondering if a lot of this goes into the various claims that a pepper is not stable when other folk think it is. Had a carolina reaper put off nothing but chocolate pods. Horrible germination rates on all seeds saved, but the ones that grew grew chocolate. It did not make me think they were unstable at all. Seems more like the genes for chocolate come along with genes for low fertility rate, but havent messed with it enough to have a clue. Trying, but damn they do not like germinating.
On the bright side, I guess low germination rate is an automatically culling trait.