lighting Suggestions for LED Grow Lights

Hey everyone!
 
I'm hoping to find a decent, yet affordable LED grow light that will be best for starting my plant starts indoors, but I am also looking for one that will help my favorite plants to fruit indoors over the winter. There are a lot on Amazon, many of which are under 60 dollars a piece. I'm wondering which are actually good lights for fruiting.
 
These are two I found:
 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DC4JLTX/?coliid=IMWND0J3EYXCC&colid=28Y578ZURD8U4&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CYXT8R1/?coliid=I1N3JUOL4ALTQR&colid=28Y578ZURD8U4&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
 
you should read about Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density (PPFD)
this way you can actually evaluate which lights will work. if they aren't listing that they are a. negligent b. hiding something
 
those lights you posted are very weak. will only work for very small plants.
 
examples that actually give the ppfd numbers:  hlg  marshydro
 
Depending on your space and amount of plant starts, T5s will work fine until you want flowers. 
 
I recently started using red LEDs in conjunction with full spectrum LEDs to flower indoors with good results.
 
Maybe try augmenting your T5s with some 600nm red LEDs?
 
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