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White 7 pods, and how do you know when they are ripe

Have a few white 7 pods. Awesome growers loaded with pods.

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Most have bunches of 4 on each node

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My main question is,
How do i tell when my white 7 pods are ripe? Ive been told its somewhat hard to tell

I have a few plants. One has a masses of pods which are all very green.

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But then my other has about half the pods and this one which looks about white.

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The odd thing is this pod was produced later than the other plant pods. Ive given it a light tug to see if it came off and nothing. Any ideas?
 
not ripe yet......if they start to go white you will know, they go a creamy white colour
but.... this hybrid is still unstable and you may find you have yellow pods?????
 
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