Where is "Pepperlover" ?
- Thread starter CraigJS
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she's not selling any pods this year 
selling seeds tho on her website .
selling seeds tho on her website .
Yes, but if you do order seeds, make sure you send her a box or at least some bubble wrap and request that she send the seeds to you in that. She does put a request on the envelope that the USPS hand-cancel, but as some of us have found, that request is often ignored. I'll be happy to send you several tiny plastic ziplocs full of crushed pubescen seeds, and they'll be free!
geeme said:
That is my only one real complaint. I would even pay extra to have seeds shipped in a bubble mailer or even the small box Ed uses (a bit overkill). To her credit all of my seeds from her have been stamped "Do not machine" but each and every package always is. You can see the impressions of the seeds in the plastic baggies as well as the dust from obliterated seeds. USPS must use a steam roller for a sorting machine. Now Judy is very good at replacing damaged seed so there's that but it sucks for her that she has to do that.
She had some late frost that took a toll of her plants. And so the plants that she had left she used for seed stock.....
Scorched, boxes are not as nutty as you might think. It is kind of nutty, but the post office makes sending seeds via small boxes kind of smart. They have two rates, forget the name, will call them letter and package. A padded envelope goes out at the package rate. I do not remember the minimum but it is some where just under $3.00.
Besides, if you ship in boxes there is enough room for a Jack in the Box thing only with a Pepper Demon. Now that would be fun.
Besides, if you ship in boxes there is enough room for a Jack in the Box thing only with a Pepper Demon. Now that would be fun.
Scorched said:
Think about this: If you ordered something made of glass from a glass vendor, would you think they should be given credit if they simply put your glass item in a box, sans any kind of packing, and mark on the outside of the box to be careful as the contents might break? Would you think that it would be a shame for them to have to replace the glass object if it was then broken in transit?
It's very well-known that seeds and postal service machinery don't get along. No one would have to replace damaged seed if care was taken in the packaging in the first place, so I don't see that as sucking for her. Simply putting seeds into a bubble envelope makes a huge difference in their survival rate.
geeme said:
You're 100% correct. I was giving benefit of the doubt because Judy seems to be a great vendor except for the packaging. I hate to complain. Also it seems if you say anything negative about Judy around here you get crucified. I guess maybe I was trying to prevent this by softening my complaint but f' it. Yes it's completely shitty to get packs with broken seeds in almost every pack. And yes it can and should be prevented.
I'll continue to use her because her prices and quantity can't be beat. Yes some seeds might be broken but (I've luckily never had an entire pack broken) I've ordered from other vendors who sell 10 seeds for twice as much only to have 3 or 4 be black non viable seed. Really?? Unless you use a machine there's no damn excuse for that shit. My experience with PepperLover seed I very rarely find non viable dead seed. Broken yes. Hopefully some day she will use bubble envelopes or add some padding to her current envelopes.
If I remember right, some of her seeds are $2.00 per pack. I know for sure some are $3.00 a pack. Between the padded envelope and the cost of shipping, she would loose money when ever she sold singles. Note: Seed dealer defending a seed dealer. Don't know her. Not her by a different name or anything. Just know the cost of shipping.
I agree with aj. I think all the seed she puts in her baggies (30 or 40 compared to 10, like some other vendors) kind of acts as its own packaging material. Not to mention all the freebies. I bet it's a lot cheaper for her to do it this way than to ship in padded envelopes.
Given the choice, I'd take the extra seed over paying for a padded envelope. At most, I've only seen 4-5 broken seeds in a baggie, which, considering her seed's germ rates, isn't a big deal at all.
Given the choice, I'd take the extra seed over paying for a padded envelope. At most, I've only seen 4-5 broken seeds in a baggie, which, considering her seed's germ rates, isn't a big deal at all.
The "extras" I got were varieties I was already growing so had plenty of seeds of, already. Didn't make up for what I actually wanted and paid for that arrived pulverized. Padded envelopes are not expensive. Shipping a padded envelope is not expensive. Yes, more expensive than a plain envelope, but the post office expects paper to be sent in plain envelopes, and their machinery is built to handle such. Charging a little extra to get whole seeds the first time just makes good business sense, which is why it is a common practice of other seed vendors.
When I first started selling mixed boxes, someone suggested labeling them. I did and now I get repeat customers for the mixed boxes, more earlier in the year when new things were coming ripe every couple of years, but still the labels made a huge difference. That advice came from a patron and I am all the better for listening to him.
From what I am reading, she prefers to sell at a lower price and spare the padded envelope and shipping fee. However, it seems a few seeds are much more likely to be damaged in shipping. I think a merchant would appreciate that information the way I appreciated the idea of labeling each pepper in a mixed box. So here is a thought, customers could tell her which seeds seem unusually susceptible to the usps crusher (the rolling machine). Maybe she could raise her price on those particular seeds and put bubble wrap around them. That way she gets the best of both worlds.
Everyone does it differently. I gave up on different prices for different seeds and just set everything to $5.00 / pack of twenty, ship in padded envelopes, and give my kids a buck a pack for helping put orders together. Its just easier. If I manage to get a clean room / stripped down kitchen built, will likely ship in small boxes so I can include a sample of powders from the pod that was grown from the seed they ordered. Now that I think would be way cool, but at least a year away due to that whole kitchen thing.
From what I am reading, she prefers to sell at a lower price and spare the padded envelope and shipping fee. However, it seems a few seeds are much more likely to be damaged in shipping. I think a merchant would appreciate that information the way I appreciated the idea of labeling each pepper in a mixed box. So here is a thought, customers could tell her which seeds seem unusually susceptible to the usps crusher (the rolling machine). Maybe she could raise her price on those particular seeds and put bubble wrap around them. That way she gets the best of both worlds.
Everyone does it differently. I gave up on different prices for different seeds and just set everything to $5.00 / pack of twenty, ship in padded envelopes, and give my kids a buck a pack for helping put orders together. Its just easier. If I manage to get a clean room / stripped down kitchen built, will likely ship in small boxes so I can include a sample of powders from the pod that was grown from the seed they ordered. Now that I think would be way cool, but at least a year away due to that whole kitchen thing.