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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:15 PM

Has anyone grown full size pods indoor under LED grow lights? If you have done this, preferably more than once can you chime in and answer questions about the light your using?

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:52 PM

http://thehotpepper....-4#entry1310849

 

http://thehotpepper....10#entry1298855

 

leds don't have very much light penetration. they will not grow "full size" plants (like 10 ft tall plants) but they will grow "small" 3-4 ft tall plants. (generally)

 

if you want full sized production indoors you need HID lights.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 09:26 PM

http://thehotpepper....-4#entry1310849
 
http://thehotpepper....10#entry1298855
 
leds don't have very much light penetration. they will not grow "full size" plants (like 10 ft tall plants) but they will grow small 3-4 ft tall plants.
 
if you want full sized production indoors you need HID lights.


Do you have experience with this? I have heard it both ways so im hoping to find someone who claims to have done it and see what kind of light they use. I have his lights but would rather not run them if possible because of power usage and heat.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:16 PM

Do you have experience with this? I have heard it both ways so im hoping to find someone who claims to have done it and see what kind of light they use. I have his lights but would rather not run them if possible because of power usage and heat.

yes but i generally use lower power leds. not the top of the line 1300$ led fixtures. i imagine they get pretty close to the same as hps.

but at that point you are paying 800-1300$ for led or 400-500$ for a 1000w de hps.

 

most people just say f**kit, they'll deal with the heat and replace the bulb every 10k hours.


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

I'm also interested in this as I'm looking to try a full grown DWC setup, and also if the mix of white light(3000K/6000K) is better or if a blue/red light(450-480nm/620-680nm) mix is better.

 

Please be someone who's an expert chime in  :tear:



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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:52 PM

Thats what im trying to figure out. I grew for years with HIDs and if I can get the same results with a 1500 dollar LED ill do it. Between the heat management and fan power needed for it and the fraction of electricity used it would pay off pretty quick in my opinion.

Edited by MnSuperHots, 14 February 2017 - 10:53 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 12:09 AM

why don't you decorate pepper tree using LED chips?  you can use NodeMCU, Arduino or ESP to control the light.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 12:15 AM

why don't you decorate pepper tree using LED chips?  you can use NodeMCU, Arduino or ESP to control the light.


Thanks for being helpful, guys like you make forums a joy to visit :-/

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 12:24 AM

Thanks for being helpful, guys like you make forums a joy to visit :-/

 

In his defense, I think he uses a translator feature to post. Doesn't always translate right from Thai to English.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 12:29 AM

 
In his defense, I think he uses a translator feature to post. Doesn't always translate right from Thai to English.


That makes sense i guess..

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:38 AM

I did not grow with led yet but for a good crop for sure you will need more then a single top fixture.

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http://www.lighting....ulture-2015.pdf



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:53 AM

Thats what im trying to figure out. I grew for years with HIDs and if I can get the same results with a 1500 dollar LED ill do it. Between the heat management and fan power needed for it and the fraction of electricity used it would pay off pretty quick in my opinion.

you can look at the comparison the weed guys do. peppers will be similar in size / growth.

 

peppers aren't exactly a cash crop(8-15 $/lb) vs weed(1500 $/lb) so people aren't looking to pay 800-1400$ to light 4 pepper plants. so you probably won't find many grows.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:42 AM

you can look at the comparison the weed guys do. peppers will be similar in size / growth.
 
peppers aren't exactly a cash crop(8-15 $/lb) vs weed(1500 $/lb) so people aren't looking to pay 800-1400$ to light 4 pepper plants. so you probably won't find many grows.


No peppers are not a money maker, but as a hobby, and for my interest in it and the toys involved 1500 bucks wont put me in the poor house. If my energy bill doesnt make my wife ask questions and I dont have to listen to 450 cfm of air being moved in my basement but I still get full size happy pods, then victory is mine. But! I do want to hear testimony from a few sources with experience before I pull the trigger on a fancy led. I cant believe i would be the first pepper guy to do this.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:46 PM

A half decent DIY light kit should only set you back $150 - $250 if you do it right. That's what I'm looking to do. 

 

The only thing is we are a little behind the times here in Australia though so it's a little hard to find anything local.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:45 AM

People who know how to do this, ie  Cornell, use HID

 

http://www.cornellce...e Handbook .pdf


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:31 AM

People who know how to do this, ie  Cornell, use HID
 
http://www.cornellce...e Handbook .pdf


I have 2 issues with this, the publication doesnt seem to show a date of when it was last updated or written. It could be from the 90s. My second issue is its about lettuce not peppers.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:03 PM

do you think my answer is stupid?    i use this kind of LED chips to decorate pepper plant of any size.  

 

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sorry to make you inconvenience. bye bye

 



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 10:01 PM

Hi folks, i'd like to chime in with my experience with LEDs and hydro. I made some videos you might find interesting- My LED light is DIY with COBs and I got some impressive results with a relatively low cost/wattage (55W) white LED.

 

 

Hydro system and light - https://www.youtube....h?v=nRUFJCrL6E0

 

 

Plant growth video  - https://www.youtube....h?v=ePWCaZ1KX_k

 



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:21 AM

I have 2 issues with this, the publication doesnt seem to show a date of when it was last updated or written. It could be from the 90s. My second issue is its about lettuce not peppers.

 

They are still doing it this way and plants are quite similar including lettuce and chiles.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 01:22 PM

Hi folks, i'd like to chime in with my experience with LEDs and hydro. I made some videos you might find interesting- My LED light is DIY with COBs and I got some impressive results with a relatively low cost/wattage (55W) white LED.
 
 
Hydro system and light - https://www.youtube....h?v=nRUFJCrL6E0
 
 
Plant growth video  - https://www.youtube....h?v=ePWCaZ1KX_k
 


Nice!




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