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#861 Orekoc

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Posted 16 December 2018 - 12:16 AM

I don't think they are usually labeled the way you describe, as  there would be no way of knowing, just from the labeling, if F1 seeds were the original cross, or if they were seeds from an F1 plant.

Heres the way I see it. The seeds that came from
the F6 plants are F6 seeds. Planted this season they
will produce the F7 plants/pods/seeds. Thus, the F7
grow.

So, the seeds marked F2 mentioned above will produce
F3 plants/pods/ seeds the following season.

I think that makes sense to me, but I could be
all wet 😜

 


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 03:33 PM

Seeds are in the AeroGarden. Wish me luck

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Posted 16 December 2018 - 03:49 PM

GoodLuck :)



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 04:26 PM

Seeds are in the AeroGarden. Wish me luck

good luck and give updates on how things go.



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 09:14 PM

Seeds are in the AeroGarden. Wish me luck

Okay Aravind. I'm holding my breath and

crossing my fingers for germination success

for you  :pray:


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 09:18 PM

Good luck!



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Posted Yesterday, 10:09 AM

Heres the way I see it. The seeds that came from
the F6 plants are F6 seeds. Planted this season they
will produce the F7 plants/pods/seeds. Thus, the F7
grow.

So, the seeds marked F2 mentioned above will produce
F3 plants/pods/ seeds the following season.

I think that makes sense to me, but I could be
all wet 😜

 

I always thought it was the other way around.  I thought the seeds in a pod were a generation ahead of the pod itself.

 

If you cross a stable Jalapeño (Father) with a stable Cayenne (Mother), the Cayenne peppers that crow on the mother plant will look the same as the Cayenne peppers it always grows, but the seeds inside will be sold as "Hybrid F1 Cayepeño" seeds.

 

If you grow out these "Hybrid F1 Cayepeño" seeds, you'll get a pretty consistent hybrid F1 pepper (as long as both the father and mother are stable), but the seeds inside are now F2, and will not grow true.

 

Anyhow, that's what I've thought.



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Posted Yesterday, 11:56 AM

The initial crossed pod produces F1 seeds. F1 seeds produce F1 plants (which makes sense because a seed is basically a baby plant). F1 plants produce pods with F2 seeds. So the seeds you harvest are one generation ahead of the parent plant.

 

When you buy F1 strawberry seeds from a breeder, you're not gonna get a bunch of variation. Which you would get if F1 seeds produced F2 plants (like in Paul's theory).


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#869 PaulG

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Posted Yesterday, 01:33 PM

Maybe Tristen will drop by and clarify for us. 

My assumption is that the F1 is the first generation

of pods/seeds produced by the original cross's seeds

as Bernd stated above.

 

In 2014, I planted his F1 and F2 seeds, and in

2015 the seeds from the pods produced by the

F2 seed plant, which I called F3, and so on each

season harvesting the new generation's pods:

   2015 - F3, 3rd generation of pods/seeds

   2016 - F4, 4th generation of pods    "

   2017 - F5, 5th generation of pods    "

   2018 - F6, 6th generation of pods    "

   2019 - F7 pods, whose seeds will produce the

              eighth generation in 2020.

 

So, that was my thinking, for whatever it's worth :think: 

Now as we grow out the 7th generation, we can finally

name it, and thenumber won't matter so much  :D 

I suppose there is  rule or norm for this nomenclature,

probably available online.

 

 


Edited by PaulG, Yesterday, 01:46 PM.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:13 PM

The four F7 and two F5 plants that will go

forward. Gave one each to my neighbor.

 

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Edited by PaulG, Yesterday, 04:32 PM.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:30 PM

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Man you're a trooper! No break for you huh?! Already back breaking bread popping some more seeds huh?! I'm taking a quick breather to get everything in order, cleaned up as far as the grow room, and all the supplies, and also trying to do more on the processing/kitchen/creations part of the pepper game for the short interim in not growing anything :) not sure when I'll pop some beans-maybe February? Can't remember when I started popping em last year..

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Posted Yesterday, 04:40 PM

Man you're a trooper! No break for you huh?! Already back breaking bread popping some more seeds huh?! I'm taking a quick breather to get everything in order, cleaned up as far as the grow room, and all the supplies, and also trying to do more on the processing/kitchen/creations part of the pepper game for the short interim in not growing anything :) not sure when I'll pop some beans-maybe February? Can't remember when I started popping em last year..

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Thanks, Tristan. Sounds like you are the one that's busy though!

 

I hope you have good luck with the PdN x BMJ. My germination

rates have been very poor. I started about 50 seeds in various media

to get 5 plants of the F7, and 12 F5 to get two plants.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:52 PM

Thanks, Tristan. Sounds like you are the one that's busy though!
 
I hope you have good luck with the PdN x BMJ. My germination
rates have been very poor. I started about 50 seeds in various media
to get 5 plants of the F7, and 12 F5 to get two plants.

Wow! Really, that poor? Technique or media or seed/genetic line you think? Or maybe how the seeds were dried? How have your previous seasons germ results?

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Posted Yesterday, 10:46 PM

I just bought an AeroGarden Classic to play with.

 

Do you do anything special to keep it warm?

 

I'm still playing around with my AeroGarden, but it seems like it'll be running cooler than my stand-by method of a heating mat with humidity domes.



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Posted Today, 01:05 AM

Wow! Really, that poor? Technique or media or seed/genetic line you think? Or maybe how the seeds were dried? How have your previous seasons germ results?

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The pods were totally white and starting to get soft,
so I think they were ripe. Normally I have had good
germ results but sometimes there are some that do
not do that great. I have used seedling mix and jiffy
pellets, but for my 2019 grow, I am going to try some
rock wool cubes. I use a germinating heat mat as well.

I just bought an AeroGarden Classic to play with.
 
Do you do anything special to keep it warm?

I keep it inside in our office room with the lights on for extra warmth.
I have the old style with flouro tubes, and it works great. Sprouted 3/4
Red Rocoto and 4/4 Aji Amarillo seeds in the past couple of weeks.
Having lights on 24/7 keeps the deck warm enough for germinating.


Edited by PaulG, Today, 01:17 AM.

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Posted Today, 04:14 AM

my violet seeds have sprouted so happy days.




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