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#1 Peter S

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 09:33 PM

I'm comparing growth between two White Devil's Tails in different 5 gallon wicking systems. One is in the one I made recently that has a cloth wick attached to a 6 inch net pot, and the other is a more traditional self-watering container setup. I'll post how they do over the season.

 



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 08:33 AM

Great video again Peter and explained in simple layman terms. I'm following all your grows using the wick systems, dying to see if you will get good or even better yields using this method. Plants all look super healthy. Keep doing what your doing. Wishing you loads of pods lol.

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 10:04 AM

Great video again Peter and explained in simple layman terms. I'm following all your grows using the wick systems, dying to see if you will get good or even better yields using this method. Plants all look super healthy. Keep doing what your doing. Wishing you loads of pods lol.

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Thanks Sim! I'll post updates throughout the season. I just put them outside on the porch a couple days ago. They should start to take off with real sunlight. I topped them both off with nutrients then too, and can tell they used over a gallon combined since I set them up. I'm sure that'll increase as they get bigger.



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Posted 15 April 2017 - 10:21 AM

Please do Peter, I love watching this kind of grow.

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Posted 09 May 2017 - 07:51 AM

Cool comparison, I would think the traditional SWC bucket would be better.  So, it will be interesting which one actually does better in grow out.


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 09:55 AM



Cool comparison, I would think the traditional SWC bucket would be better.  So, it will be interesting which one actually does better in grow out.

I just took a pic of them this morning. The SWC one is starting to catch up, but both seem to be doing well. The leaves on the SWC appear to be a little bigger. One concern I have with the wick bucket is the water becoming stagnant early on. I've been doing frequent top offs, overfilling so maybe some of the old solution will be pushed out. I think that'll help. It'll be interesting to see how they compare at season end. Also, I'm wondering if lowering the max reservoir height would improve it.

 

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:39 PM

Do you add nutrients to the lower bucket? How do you keep the organic fertilizer from separating before being wicked up?

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 09:45 PM

Do you add nutrients to the lower bucket? How do you keep the organic fertilizer from separating before being wicked up?

Both were getting MasterBlend 4-18-38 with Epsom Salt and Calcium Nitrate. I switched them over to Dyna-Gro 7-9-5. Once they are mixed they stay homogenous. If it's mixed properly it won't separate back out. The one on the right with the  cloth wick is just one bucket, but the other one, the self-watering system using two buckets. The nutrients are added to the bottom bucket of that one through a fill pipe. There is an overflow that keeps it from filling too much. That one is more of a proven method. The cloth wick bucket is an experiment. So far it seems to be working fine, but I think it might perform better with a lower nutrient level. This would allow a little more air to the roots. I'll probably setup one or two more that have a lower nutrient level to compare those with the first ones I made.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:14 PM

How about an update? :P   I'm very curious about this comparison since it seems that, assuming the wicking system provides at least an equivalent size plant and pepper yield, its obvious advantage is that it requires far less soil/medium than the traditional method.  I have about ten double-bucket set-ups and go through quite a lot of soil (have not gotten into hydroponics - yet) to set them up.  It would also seem with the wicking method that the water reservoir is significantly larger.  I am all about minimizing my work!


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:27 PM

How about an update? :P   I'm very curious about this comparison since it seems that, assuming the wicking system provides at least an equivalent size plant and pepper yield, its obvious advantage is that it requires far less soil/medium than the traditional method.  I have about ten double-bucket set-ups and go through quite a lot of soil (have not gotten into hydroponics - yet) to set them up.  It would also seem with the wicking method that the water reservoir is significantly larger.  I am all about minimizing my work!

I have two sets of these going, White Devil's Tail and CARDI Yellow Scorpion. I think one of the CARDI Yellow Scorp might crossed so it's not a good comparison. The White Devil's Tails are both doing very well. It's hard to tell which is better since they are so close together. I'll pull them out and do a follow up video soon showing the progress of each. Overall, I think the swc looks better, has bigger leaves, but both producing about the same. I'm back and forth on which one I think is best. I show them in my grow update videos but it's hard to tell differences since they very close to each other. Here are some recent grow updates than show them. Thanks for asking about it, I'll put up an update this weekend.

 

 

 



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:04 AM

Update on my 5 gallon wick systems comparison each growing White Devil's Tail. Both are doing well. The self-watering earth-box type might be a little better, not sure. Let me know what you think.

 



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:47 PM

awesome as always



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Posted 20 July 2017 - 04:57 PM

Thanks for the update, my takeaway at this point is it's pretty much splitting hairs as to one being significantly better than the other.  A couple of questions, though:

 

1.  Are the two plants clones, or seedlings from different seeds?  If not, my guess (and given my vast ignorance, it's a WAG) is that other factors could come into play to account for the differences in plant/leaf/fruit size and numbers when using different source material (i.e., seeds).  Am I at all right?

 

2.  Assuming, that the two plants are close enough for it to be a wash, what are the advantages/disadvantages between the two systems?  As I noted above, your wicking system would seem to used much less soil/medium and have a bigger reservoir.  And easier to make with only one bucket.  Any pluses to the traditional self-watering method?  Could I use soil with the wicking system should I not want to get into hydroponics?

 

Thanks again, I am learning lots.


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