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Posted 19 April 2017 - 04:57 PM

PaulG very kindly sent me a large assortment of aji Amarillo seed way back last November, and I planted a bunch from two different baggies, one marked F5 and one marked aji Amarillo Peruvian 2015.

 

Two of the plants that grew out of the aji Amarillo Peruvian I do not believe are, and I didn't get real suspicious until blossoms opened. I PMed Paul and he has no idea, so you guys get to take a stab at it.

 

The suspect:

 

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Note that this plant is producing WAY more flowers than any of the amarillos, and the flower stems droop significantly:

 

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The blossoms themselves are half the size of amarillos and bear no petal artwork whatsoever. Also the obvious: Purple on the inside. PaulG thinks a cross, perhaps a Bhut-Jolokia, me? This is my first exotic grow, guys... :high: I'd have to make it up....

 

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Oh, and like I told PaulG, my apologies for the camera work. We can't all be Geonerd or Dragonsfire or Pepper-guru or JHP or......  :violin:

 

But thanks for any input!!


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 06:38 PM

I'm thinking a little more of   :high: and we'll have a fine Aji Amarillo there !  ,    lol



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:09 AM

I cant say as I can help at all, But i am curious to see what comes of it.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:14 AM

 Until you get pods it will be almost impossible to guess  what it is . 1st plant has very chinense like attributes . 


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:52 AM

 Until you get pods it will be almost impossible to guess  what it is . 1st plant has very chinense like attributes . 

 

Awl--righty then, commencin' to wait for poddin' up..... :high:

 

One question; can chinense or pubescenes cross with bacatum? If so, there may be an isolation issue...


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 05:49 PM

 

One question; can chinense or pubescenes cross with bacatum? If so, there may be an isolation issue...

 

Don't remember where I got this "cross" chart from....

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:24 PM

Excellent chart, and so simple I now feel embarrassed for asking the question...Thank you.

 

I've gone through and am now for sure I have FOUR of these which came from the packet labeled aji Amarillo Peruvian. Being so new to this I can't see the slightest relation between these and the amarillos, I'm sure glad that Frank has faith...I'm not sure these will be an Amarillo cross or just some seeds that accidentally found their way into the packet...

 

It would appear that the pubescens don't play nice with any of the others....


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 11:03 AM

Well shoot, maybe we don't figure this one out after all. Two weeks of vigorous blooming and not one fruit setting. I in fact haven't seen an anther with any pollen on it.

 

Three plants total from these aji Amarillo seed, and none wants to set fruit.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:30 PM

Your corolla is white, so that rules out C. pubescens, which are purple. The calyx on it could pass for C.chinense or C.annuum, but doubtful C.frutescens, even though the stamens look dark enough for C. frutescens. Its a very interesting plant you have. I can see traits of four species in it! The leaves could pass for C. baccatum even though the corolla clearly is not! Crazy!



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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:31 PM

You probably know all this though.^^^^



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Posted 05 May 2017 - 12:55 PM

You probably know all this though.^^^^

 

Actually I didn't. Thanks for the input. All of these are flowering, just not setting any fruit nor producing pollen, like I said. The seeds were mixed in with some aji Amarillo sent from Peru. from what I planted I believe about a third of them grew to be these.


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:56 PM

Interesting indeed. I'm excited to see what comes of it..!🌶️🌶️

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 01:23 PM

Well damn. These things have actually kicked in.

 

About a half inch lonch. If this becomes an aji Amarillo I will poop in my hand and call it Thursday...

 

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:06 AM

Well if that flower is from the same plant as the pod, then it is not an Aji Amarillo. That type has yellow spots on the flower. It's got a cool, elongated start though!

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 05:00 PM

No, not aji Amarillo, here is one that, unbeknownst to me, tagged itself to an Amarillo. Pretty easy difference, yes?

 

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Here is a Mystery pepper next to a rocoto. Except for the purple flowers one might think they could be the same...

 

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Pods are clustering in 3s and 4s, I'm not savvy enough to guess, but there is a purplish coloration beginning at the calyx...

 

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Any more guesses? Now that there are pods, that is....

 

 


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 05:30 PM

Looks like my Aji Limo Rojo.
It's Peruvian... pretty good chance. I think there are yellow and red and maybe orange varieties.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:27 PM

Looks like my Aji Limo Rojo.
It's Peruvian... pretty good chance. I think there are yellow and red and maybe orange varieties.


Peruvian, but not baccatum? Note the flowers in prior posts.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 08:24 PM

Nope Aji Limo is chinense. I just put a picture of mine up in my Glog yesterday.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 12:22 PM

Dale (TGCM) grows a number of peruvian chinense.

Aji Limo, Aji Mochero, Aji Arnaucho, Charapita and probably more.

Many names are regional, Limo=Lima(not lemon/lime)

Aji is just pepper, not necessarily baccatum

 

http://www.lamolina....jiesdelPeru.pdf

book on peruvian aji, some culture and recipes


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 12:33 PM

Dale (TGCM) grows a number of peruvian chinense.

Aji Limo, Aji Mochero, Aji Arnaucho, Charapita and probably more.

Many names are regional, Limo=Lima(not lemon/lime)

Aji is just pepper, not necessarily baccatum

 

http://www.lamolina....jiesdelPeru.pdf

book on peruvian aji, some culture and recipes

 

Yep, unnerstood. I've been reading his blog too. Based on shape and the chinense trademarks I'm pretty darn sure that aji limo is what I have. The seeds were in a packet of aji Amarillo seed that originated in Peru, another good indication. I haven't yet asked Paul to inquire to his Peruvian friends yet as to the possibility (for all I know they got the seeds from another source altogetgher), but to tell the truth I'm just glad that they've decided to produce at all. I have a Bishops Hat, a Brazillian Starfish, Orange Thai, Aji Pacay, etc. and so forth that haven't flowered yet, much less set any fruit.

 

I saw that your aji amarillos are going great guns for you, nice!


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