• If you need help identifying a pepper, disease, or plant issue, please post in Identification.

Can you have too much flower bud in a pepper plant ( white Bhut Jolokia )

The_NorthEast_ChileMan said:
I'm not a botanist but I have been growing peppers since '95, have belonged to many forums and seen thousands of pix of pepper plants and while I've seen a few mutants with a lot of pods in one node I've never seen one that had almost 20 in one node. Add five double pods to the mix and you have a mutant IMO!
 
 
Again not a botanist but I believe it's just a one off mutant plant with unique genetics.
 
 
 
I believe this will be the telling tale and I also believe it will not resurface in the plants progeny from seed.
 

Start your preparation for the aphid infestation now as I believe it's not a matter of IF but WHEN. I hope I'm wrong but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
 
`
Click to expand...
 
Also not a botanist... but I recall reading something about an fa gene for fasciculation in Wang and Bosland (HortScience August 2006 41:1169-1187).  I can't access the original articles that described fasciculation and am unable to find a picture of a pepper with this mutation, so I can't say this is fasciculation or if it looks the same, but it sure sounds similar. Here's the description of the mutation: 
 
"Fasciculation in pepper is expressed as a shortening of internodes, resulting in compact, bushy plants and expressed as flowers and fruits borne on bunched, compounded nodes conferred by the recessive fa gene. Van de Beek and Ltifi observed the variation in fasciculation, inferring that minor genes could be involved in the expression of fasciculation, operating in the presence of the fa gene." 
 
So just a follow up. I went on to look at some varieties that naturally tend to form clusters of fruits and came across an NMSU article on the NuMex Mirasol. 
 
In the plant description they write: "As 'NuMex Mirasol' matures it becomes a multi-stemmed bush with a fasciculated, upright fruit habit (see Fig.2)" 
 
Fig.2 
Screen Shot 2017-10-29 at 9.01.14 pm.png

 
https://cpi.nmsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2016/07/Mirasol.full_.pdf 
 
No sure if this adequately describes what's happening, as there is a lot more growth -- and at the nodes -- not just terminal part of the stem. Anyway... just thought I'd give my two cents. 
 
I want to revisit this thread and see if anyone that received seeds from PepperPowerG is having any luck with the crazy genetics coming through? I received seeds from an Isolated siamese pod and one of my plants is showing similar traits. Siamese blooms and fused stems. Unfortunately I'm not getting the crazy blooms per node though. Either way, I'm quite surprised.
 

Attachments

  • 20180724_140632.jpg
    20180724_140632.jpg
    80.6 KB · Views: 89
  • 20180724_140827.jpg
    20180724_140827.jpg
    64 KB · Views: 79
solid7 said:
I have had this happen before, also.
.
Red Dominican Habanero. Only once, ever. Plant never got that big, but it gave loads of peppers. Every node, same story...
.
27496168357_816753ef40_z.jpg
Click to expand...
Did you try to grow any seeds out to see if it followed through?
 
I'm just surprised more than anything that it followed through to the seed. My other one from same seed stock is totally normal. I've seen plenty of Siamese pods and fused stems but the fact that it showed up when I only have 2 of this plant going leads me to think that someone else that received seeds had this pop up. Would be awesome if we could stabilize this mutation. I'm not convinced that it's possible but it's worth a shot.
 
From what I've seen in the past, this is something that tends to happen only in varieties that are already quite prolific...
 
solid7 said:
I've got 5 plants right now growing from that seed stock. I got a late start, so I literally have harvested zero peppers yet this season.
Click to expand...
Now I do t feel so bad, I've had very few pods this season. I may be over stressing myself since I see folks posting pics of awesome pickings and here I'm with about five pods in total for the season.
 
Elpicante said:
Now I do t feel so bad, I've had very few pods this season. I may be over stressing myself since I see folks posting pics of awesome pickings and here I'm with about five pods in total for the season.
Click to expand...
 
That just means that you'll be enjoying your harvest while they're settling in to cabin fever. ;)
 
Edmick said:
I want to revisit this thread and see if anyone that received seeds from PepperPowerG is having any luck with the crazy genetics coming through? I received seeds from an Isolated siamese pod and one of my plants is showing similar traits. Siamese blooms and fused stems. Unfortunately I'm not getting the crazy blooms per node though. Either way, I'm quite surprised.
Click to expand...
 

i didn't started some this year because i had the bhut-1 OW he is doing ok but not as productive as last year
probably because i didn't OW him properly
IMG_1434.jpg

thats him in my 10 gallon planter took last month
 
i'm planning on growing around a dozen of those (Isolated siamese pod seeds) next years
so i will give you some feedback on it next year
 
AndyW said:
Wish I could answer that but I managed to lose the seeds I got from him. I'll try to remember to post back if I find them and grow these though.
Click to expand...
 
if you want me to send some more to you i still got some. PM me
 
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top