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#1 Codeman

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:12 PM

Hello all. I wanted someone who has any experience using this mix called proline c/b growing mix or proline custom growing mix. The mix does very well. Just some information, I live in Greensboro NC,so if that helps with knowing what my climate is like. Unless someone has a recipe that's even better. Trying to save money. Here's the picture on the back of the bag! Thank you!

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 01:25 AM

It says on the bag that it's peat moss, pine bark, vermiculite and perlite

 

You probably want around 5-20% aeration by volume. That gives you the amount of vermiculite and perlite. I personally use the lava rocks for BBQs. Peat moss was 50% so that leaves 45-30% 1 inch pine bark mulch

 

Typically what I do is put in some cheap potting mix, put the new plant on top of this so that it's at the right height. Then add in some lava rocks around it, will in some composted sheep or cow manure, add a few more rocks then top off with regular cheap compost. I'll leave a big gap at the top and then add in at least an inch of thicker pine bark

 

After watering it in and waiting a few days I'll add in some worms and they will do the mixing and aeration for me. Mixing everything yourself is boring and messy, and the worms do a good enough job even if they eventually die out confined to a pot

 

Adding leaf litter / more wood chips will keep it fertilised forever as long as you have worms in there alive.


Get the compost/EWC dialled in and you won't have many questions that need an answer.


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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:03 AM

It says on the bag that it's peat moss, pine bark, vermiculite and perlite
 
You probably want around 5-20% aeration by volume. That gives you the amount of vermiculite and perlite. I personally use the lava rocks for BBQs. Peat moss was 50% so that leaves 45-30% 1 inch pine bark mulch
 
Typically what I do is put in some cheap potting mix, put the new plant on top of this so that it's at the right height. Then add in some lava rocks around it, will in some composted sheep or cow manure, add a few more rocks then top off with regular cheap compost. I'll leave a big gap at the top and then add in at least an inch of thicker pine bark
 
After watering it in and waiting a few days I'll add in some worms and they will do the mixing and aeration for me. Mixing everything yourself is boring and messy, and the worms do a good enough job even if they eventually die out confined to a pot
 
Adding leaf litter / more wood chips will keep it fertilised forever as long as you have worms in there alive.

With the red bag it seems it has more peat moss compared to the c/b but with also larger pieces of pine bark. So it's 50-60/65% peat moss then 40% pine bark and rest perlite and vermiculite? Not sure if I should add some compost or not.Im talking about the red bag and not the c/b mix. The c/b mix looks to be about half peat moss and pine bark fines.

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:14 AM

With the red bag it seems it has more peat moss compared to the c/b but with also larger pieces of pine bark. So it's 50-60/65% peat moss then 40% pine bark and rest perlite and vermiculite? Not sure if I should add some compost or not.Im talking about the red bag and not the c/b mix. The c/b mix looks to be about half peat moss and pine bark fines.

 

It will compost down on it's own naturally provided the container size is sufficient


Get the compost/EWC dialled in and you won't have many questions that need an answer.


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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:45 AM

 
It will compost down on it's own naturally provided the container size is sufficient

Ok when I add this amount of peat moss,do I need to add some lime to counter the acidity? With the way you plant you don't really mix anything but use the rocks and pine bark to weigh the plant in place?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 11:38 AM

Cut ProMix all purpose with 40% aged pine bark fines. If they sell the Jolly Gardener brand their Soil Conditioner is just aged pine bark. The ProMix all purpose is pretty cheap. About $11-14 for a 2cuft bale.

https://jollygardene...conditioner.htm

 

If you want something similar and ready to use, ProMix BRK but its very pricey.

https://www.pthortic...t-specification

 

  • 50% Canadian sphagnum peat moss.
  • 40% processed bark.
  • 10% perlite.

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 12:37 PM

<p>Cut ProMix all purpose with 40% aged pine bark fines. If they sell the Jolly Gardener brand their Soil Conditioner is just aged pine bark. The ProMix all purpose is pretty cheap. About $11-14 for a 2cuft bale.https://jollygardene...conditioner.htm If you want something similar and ready to use, ProMix BRK but its very pricey.https://www.pthortic...t-specification 

  • 50% Canadian sphagnum peat moss.
  • 40% processed bark.
  • 10% perlite.

Yeah we don't have promix over here. What about some vermiculite? That soil conditioner are they 1 inch pine bark?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 03:05 PM

This place is listed as having Pro Mix. Lowes and Home Depot normally carry the All Purpose which is cheaper.

https://fifthseasong...ores/greensboro

 

I dont get that brand of pine fines but mine is smaller than an inch. Timberline sells it also as "Soil Conditioner". I get mine at a local composting place mixed with rice hulls. The stuff is cheap.

 

I dont use vermiculite ever.

 

 

What i get looks like this

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 04:37 PM

This place is listed as having Pro Mix. Lowes and Home Depot normally carry the All Purpose which is cheaper.
https://fifthseasong...ores/greensboro
 
I dont get that brand of pine fines but mine is smaller than an inch. Timberline sells it also as "Soil Conditioner". I get mine at a local composting place mixed with rice hulls. The stuff is cheap.
 
I dont use vermiculite ever.
 
 
What i get looks like this
Df4EVFa.jpg
PeogRZ3.jpg
rYpJ5eS.jpg

Ok so I guess I don't really need vermiculite then. Where would I get rice hulls from? Also the timberline. Is that the mulch in the purple bag? Also how much of the pine bark,perlite and rice hulls do I need to mix the all purpose with?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 04:54 PM

do I need to add some lime to counter the acidity?

 

In general, pepper plants like it slightly acidic.

 

I wouldn't add lime to a potting mix for pepper plants unless I knew I had a special problem, such as overly acidic well water, or something like that.



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Posted 05 May 2019 - 05:03 PM

 
In general, pepper plants like it slightly acidic.
 Thank you. What are the ingredients in the promix all purpose?
I wouldn't add lime to a potting mix for pepper plants unless I knew I had a special problem, such as overly acidic well water, or something like that.



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Posted 05 May 2019 - 05:11 PM

 
In general, pepper plants like it slightly acidic.
 
Trying to quote and reply but I'm on my phone LMAO. Anyways I was wondering if you knew what was in that promix all purpose mix?
I wouldn't add lime to a potting mix for pepper plants unless I knew I had a special problem, such as overly acidic well water, or something like that.


Ah ok. I was wondering if you knew what is in that promix all purpose?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 08:12 PM

I use malted barley for brewing beer instead of rice hulls. It's a bit more expensive but they have lots of enzymes in them that are great for conditioning the soil


Get the compost/EWC dialled in and you won't have many questions that need an answer.


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Posted 05 May 2019 - 08:49 PM

I use malted barley for brewing beer instead of rice hulls. It's a bit more expensive but they have lots of enzymes in them that are great for conditioning the soil

so is the malted barley like a powder and dissolve?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 10:00 PM

It looks like this. Like i said several times "Soil Conditioner". The mulch is another product.

https://www.timberli...conditioner.htm



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:50 AM

so is the malted barley like a powder and dissolve?

 

Nope, I just mix them in as is. Whole kernels 


Get the compost/EWC dialled in and you won't have many questions that need an answer.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 01:26 AM

 
Nope, I just mix them in as is. Whole kernels 

Oh so they act like perlite or rice hulls. How much percentage do I need to add?

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:45 AM

Oh so they act like perlite or rice hulls. How much percentage do I need to add?

 

As mentioned earlier you will want 5-20% total aeration by volume. If you live in a dry climate, you obviously need less as you can control the amount of water it receives exactly. If you get a lot of rain or live in an area with flash storms that dump a load of rain in a short period of time, obviously the aeration should be at the higher end

 

Unfortunately most of this sort of information is only available on cannabis growing websites. They try loads of really weird stuff that regular gardeners don't so it's worth while checking these sites as well. Using sprouted seeds as aeration is definitely one of the good things to come out of there that you don't see on regular garden sites


Get the compost/EWC dialled in and you won't have many questions that need an answer.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 11:27 AM

Malted barley is just barley that has been sprouted and dried. Super common item at brew shops and its cheap. The sprouting creates sugars and enzymes that some bacteria will love. Just call a brew shop and ask for the least expensive malted barley. They might have rice hulls too. A pound is a couple bucks but way cheaper for horticulture grade.



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:57 PM

I live in High Point, and you can buy leaf mulch, wood chips, and "engineered soil" from the city recycling facility on Ingleside.  Greensboro may have something similar, but I've never investigated, since this one is less than a mile from my house.






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