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Sounds like aphids but a picture would help tremendously

I agree, tomatoes are different in that area.

Avon it helps to pin the sheets together with a few rocks on top and around the edge.

So I have access to a few tons of horse manure that is pure black is that considered humus.

Will do, the real question isn't the staying power as the actual kill rate. If it wiped out all of them problem solved, if it left some the problem will come back. Which seems to be that issues with the sprays I have used miss a few and within days I have a full infestation again but with the...

If I was you I would find a big a$$ piece of wood and pound on that sucker because that was me last year, and now I am in an ongoing war with them. Actually if anything the plants look healthier this morning, but only time will tell.

Yes upside down I tried to get as close to the soil as possible without dipping the soil

I dipped my plants in a mix of 1/2 cup yellow listerine 1/2 cup baby shampoo 2 gallons of water Last night around 9 and today most of the aphids appear dead

I think 5 ml is 1 tablespoon.

Many may be a slight understatment...

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I use filter fabric ( landscape fabric) the good woven kind not the cheap more or less tar paper kind. I love it. We used black plastic in the past but it collected water on top

That stuff looks perfect to me.

I'd switch to malothion its the only thing that seems to keep mine under control but I am trying a dip tonight of 1/2 cup yellow listerine 1/2 baby shampoo 2 gallons of water Idk if I need to rinse or not or if it will work but I'll post soon to let everyone know

I thought that stuff was a once per year thing.

I am trying a dip of 1/2 cup yellow listerine 1/2 cup baby shampoo 2gallons of water Not sure if I need to rinse or not but I have to get this infestation undercontrol.

Liquid, pellets and foliar here low levels ofcourse.

Malathion kills both.

Too much and all flower no pods. Stick with the teaspoon and sidedress later if need be