• Blog your pepper progress. The first image in your first post will be used to represent your Glog.

2018 - The Farm

Well, I've been gone a few years from the board, and away from growing peppers, but looks like life is pushing me back that way again. 
 
I recently (last month) closed on a 25 acre farm in Central Illinois with some primo soil, and I'm going to give a commercial grow a test run. 
 
NzpDT8g.jpg

 
TrugNBb.jpg

 
From up on the roof, when I was doing some roof repairs on the outbuildings. Not much as far as the eye can see, but cornfields...
 
BZXHqMp.jpg

 
 
Has a 4 stall garage and a horse stable on the property
 
dHjylEo.jpg

 
GCjcX18.jpg

 
2N9v0Yf.jpg

 
Probably do my grow room upstairs here after I insulate it
 
HYVOyF0.jpg

 
Built some doors for the horse barn and patched the roof last month
 
NNO9Tcg.jpg

 
zfOwha1.jpg

 
 
Anyway just dropped a cold grand on seeds from pepperlover and buckeye, going to hit a greenhouse supplier up for other materials next week.
 
Have plans to build a 30x72' greenhouse in the spring, and a ~1200 sq foot dedicated grow room. Too late really to help with this year's grow, but next year it'll save me a lot of hassle on hardening off. 
 
The greenhouse, I am going to do a piped infloor heat slab, with a horizontal loop geothermal system (I own a mini excavator) that is solar powered. So heating should be nice, uniform, not create heat / cold bubbles, and not dry out plants like forced air would. I build circuit boards in my day job, so I will also build a microcontroller to handle the automated watering system with soil moisture monitors and actuated plumbing valves on the water supply.
 
Also plan on building a "deep winter" greenhouse for year round production. Got blueprints I made from a couple of years back, those are walled on three sides with heavy duty insulation, with the glass wall side angled to face winter solstice, so you can grow in the deep freeze months of the north. In the summer, those get hot enough to use as a natural dehydrator, replace the tables with racks for bulk drying.
 
Only doing a half acre or so of peppers to start with this year, the balance will be put in corn. I can't manage more than that with the labor I have available. (When you start talking thousands of plants, simple tasks like up-potting grow in to hundreds or thousands of man hours...)
 
Going to hire some local kids to help, school has a good ag co-op program for high schoolers, they can get school credit working on local farms. Since the plant out and harvest doesn't conflict too badly with corn, shouldn't have a problem finding labor around here.
 
Anyway, that's the plans.
 
We'll see how it goes.. er.. grows.
 
 
TrentL said:


Ruled out herbicide drift damage. What I started seeing last weekend is still unidentified, but the plants aren't showing the classic signs of 2,4-d exposure. No zig-zag main vein in leaves, etc.


 

They seem to be, overall, doing much better now that they are outside. The chinense species with the big leaves are sunburned (should have hardened them off better - after 2 days out they didn't show any signs of being sunburned, but last night it was obvious they got hit pretty bad), but they're all healthy and growing. Annuums look about perfect.

 
I would think it might be humidity, but then again, the ones that were showing the worst symptoms were the one nearest the air intakes. 
 
So who knows. 
 
That's great it wasn't herbicide damage. I was thinking about what you said about plants exploding in buds after being hit with 2,4-D. I feel especially positive that it was herbicide damage last year because I had a crinkled bell bust out a grip of buds. You're definitely right about my case.

That's too bad about the sunburnt lil fellas. It happens. I always burn one or two a little. That tiller is rockin it! What a great toy!
 
TrentL said:
And the pepper crop waits on ground cover fabric to go out.
 
I ordered twelve 15'6" x 300' rolls of Dewitt 3.2oz Sunbelt ground cover on Friday, enough to do 55,800 square feet (1.28 acres)
 
http://www.dewittcompany.com/Sunbelt__3.2_nbspOZ__.aspx?productid=63&categoryid=3
 
Cost was $5,119 shipped. 
 
But zero weeds is appealing. Will save that on labor and spray, easily. :)
 
 
 
Zero weeds certainly is appealing!  Maybe order some shade cloth to help with hardening off next year, unless one of those fine new hoophouses is going to be put to the task.
 
Well spent 8 hours out there, filled in about 2/3 of the old horse track before I ran out of dirt. Gained another 8,000 square foot or so that I can till, though. So worth it.
 
Wife separated out all of the tomatoes upstairs. They were a tangled mess. Had some rooting in others pots! 
 
I also got the road roughed in, that'll run through the pasture, for moving people in and produce out. 
 
No pics today, was too tired to think of it.
 
We've only lost 1 of 151 tomato transplants so far, which isn't bad, considering how fragile they were.
 
Roughly 300 more Amish Paste to go in the dirt, then about 25 each of cherry and ace 55's. Got about 70 Rose and another 40 nepal or moskovich (forget which one) to round out the tomatoes. Then we're on hold until the ground cloth shows up.
 
 
 
Sawyer said:
You making Soylent Green up there?
 
I was wondering if anyone would catch that. :)
 
Kept the skid loader tiller attachment an extra day. Finished grading the pasture, cutting the road, and tilling what I can make use of. Got the tiller attachment back 1 minute before the rental place closed. 
 
First cold frame building is squared up, staked out, and holes are marked. We will get it all ready to go tomorrow. Then probably call the concrete truck in Thursday. (Rain / storms wednesday)
 
I had some unknown creature consume an entire 7-pot Brain Strain plant outdoors last night. It was there last night... today, gone. Pot was still there, plant was not. 
 
Something is gonna get lead poisoning, they make a habit of that. I will sit out there all night with night vision and a rifle up on the roof if I have to.
 
Need a rest!
 
4mhGhbO.jpg

 
0EennyZ.jpg

 
The first of the cold frame buildings is finally going up. 
 
Joe and I set to depth and plumbed 50x 8' steel posts in 2 hours, 10 minutes yesterday. 
 
JUST about puked. It was hot, full sun, and the damn 2 1/2 slump mix the instructions called for was a real bastard to get down the shoot. 6.5 cubic yards (> 26,000 lbs) of concrete and every drop that hit a frigging hole was pulled down the chute with a shovel by yours truly. My muscles ache today.
 
 
Chalking that one up in the "got it behind us" category. Only two more of those damn structures to put up this year, so I gotta go through that two more times, though.
 
 
In other news, I lost over half of my Amish Paste tomatoes that were planted out (>150 plants) on a nasty wind storm Wednesday. The wind was blowing out of the west, with gusts > 50mph showing on the anemometer, and the stables created a windbreak. This caused 50mph turbulence on the far side that twisted and broke every tomato plant within 50 feet of the building. The plants that got only straight line wind further away managed to (mostly) survive the freakishly strong winds. But this was a major setback.
 
I had the girls stemming the peppers the last couple of days, removing old wind-damaged and sunburned leaves. They look pretty crappy right now (no recent pics). The pepper plants are already shooting out on each node where sun is now striking the stalk. So it won't be long. 
 
I got shipping notification on the 52,000 sq foot of ground cover, might be arriving today, so we might get some pepper plants in the dirt this weekend!
 
They need to get in the dirt! They're ready! More than ready!
 
I had the girls give each pot a 1 cup dose of full strength fish emulsion a couple days ago, took about 8 hours for them to get through them all. 6 hours in I was wondering what was taking so long and showed them how to do it.. more rapidly. They were just trickling the stuff in. "Dump in a half a cup, count to three, dump the other half cup in as the first half is beginning to soak in".. went much faster after that. All of the plants got a BIG dose of nitrogen.
 
With the stemming of old growth, the heavy dose of nitrogen, the new shoots forming, the peppers are going to take off something fierce in the next few days. 
 
I have tons of annuums already podded up, too.
 
Irrigation order was made for drip irrigation, main line, sub line, manifold, pressure regulator, etc. I have to cobble it together once it shows up. $3,000 was the toll there. I hope I did the math right on the pressure regulation. If I didn't, first time I throw the lever I'll blow out 5,000 linear feet of dripline. :)
 
 
 
Devv said:
Keep those broken maters watered, they will surprise you!
 
Especially if you buried them like I do... ;)
 
There's 2 feet or more of stem buried under the dirt.They were so tall and lanky I did trench planting.  You think they'll come back? 
 
ETA they broke at the soil line, there's literally nothing visible above soil on them after the broken tops dry up and wither away.
 
Got one cold frame building up yesterday. Still need to build the sidewalls and endwalls.
 
OYjmxJ3.jpg

 
Used the mini to lift trusses, and for a spare set of hands.
 
1MknJSp.jpg

 
UIi6YJk.jpg

 
f4viMkE.jpg

 
GtLtNlZ.jpg

 
JTr1bxd.jpg

 
FGdo2oy.jpg

 
b3pwAhR.jpg

 
p1XpoDy.jpg

 
Took 9 1/2 hours for me and Joe to get the roof put together. Next time will probably take 8, we made a couple mistakes early on that cost us some time.
 
TrentL said:
 
There's 2 feet or more of stem buried under the dirt.They were so tall and lanky I did trench planting.  You think they'll come back? 
 
ETA they broke at the soil line, there's literally nothing visible above soil on them after the broken tops dry up and wither away.
 

They should, could do something for you. I bury at an angle and have seen many of them grow what would look like a new plant halfway between the plant and the root ball.
 You will know soon ;)
 
Devv said:
 
They should, could do something for you. I bury at an angle and have seen many of them grow what would look like a new plant halfway between the plant and the root ball.
 You will know soon ;)
 
We're keeping them watered. We buried the root ball about 7-8 " down, and sloped the trench up until the plant gently curved out. So stem is between 0-8". We replanted some of the worst looking ones. I have 120ish down in the basement, also indeterminates, that I can replace them with if they don't pop any new shoots up soon. 
 
Devv said:
The greenhouse is looking good!
 
Thanks, that is a TON of work. We have enough steel & fittings to build two more of those. The other two are going in to the field proper, not sure if they'll get built soon as this one is done, or later in the year after harvest. I needed to get this first one up ASAP as it is my fall-back plan for plant isolation. Just ordering up a truckload of screen mesh tonight in another tab! 
 
Tomorrow 52,000 sq foot of ground cover shows up and we'll be in a RACE against the clock. We have 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch of rain coming tomorrow night and then 6 more days of thunderstorms in the forecast. So that freshly tilled field will turn in to a SWAMP. Have to get the ground cover on while we can! We'll be planting between showers, it looks like. 
 
Peppers will be going in the dirt starting Tuesday. 
 
I'm also going to torch small holes in it and direct sow some stuff - melons, cucumbers. Then I'm doing dense plantings of beans (those should out-race most of the weeds, I hope) on some uncovered dirt. Since that ENTIRE field was grass, clover, and dandelions, I want to keep as much of it covered by the ground cover as possible for at least several years until the weed-seed-bank is depleted. Then I can peel back some of the ground cover in a year or three, and start doing some direct sow stuff (greens, carrots, etc) without having to fight weeds as bad. This year would be a disaster if I tried to do fragile veggies; there were tens of thousands of dandelions in that field, and they ALL poofed when I tilled them. So millions of seeds laying there waiting to create more dandelions. Hence, ground cover the whole damn pasture. 
 
The disadvantage to this, of course, is doing soil amendments would require stripping back the ground cover. So I'll be relying on drip irrigation and sprinkler irrigation, and will need to pump in liquid organic nutes (fish hydrolysate, dissolved / screened rock phosphate dust, etc) as needed. In the fall we might peel the covers back and do some dry amendments, see what soil tests show in the fall. Not too worried about that now, just tryng to formulate some distant plans. If we do dry amendments I'll leave the ground cover off over the winter, do a cover crop. 
 
The north field is getting disc'd again and then watermelons and sweet corn go there. I'll buy a mess of straw and put out once the melons sprout, to help curtail weeds and give the melons something to rest on. 
 
I guess the moral of this, is things are about to get VERY busy. Everything goes in the dirt.
 
You are busier than a 1 legged man in a ass kicking contest [emoji16]
Will the liquid ferts play nice with the irrigation lines? Will the lines clog up with “scale “ from the water?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
PtMD989 said:
You are busier than a 1 legged man in a ass kicking contest [emoji16]
Will the liquid ferts play nice with the irrigation lines? Will the lines clog up with “scale “ from the water?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Yes, they should play well together. Fish hydrolysate is a fish rendering product (not unlike fish emulsion; but definitely not the same; they are produced differently) which is screened on a xxx-micron sieve, for use with drip irrigation. Or in other words no particles are larger than xxx microns (150, 200, etc). This helps prevent it clogging up lines. 
 
However, you do only get one year out of the irrigation drip lines. By the end of the year they will have reduced throughput. I'm using the higher flowing .45gpm drip lines. I also have some pressure gauges to spot check pressures, and I will be able to flush the lines periodically if I need to (although that won't necessarily clear clogged emitters)
 
I'm more worried about the particulates and metal in my well water clogging up the lines. I may need to filter it; but I lose some of the minerals I want if I do that. :)
 
Wow! Things are getting done with a quickness! Every time I read your glog, I get exhausted. Lol. Not in a bad way, I just can't believe one person has that much ambition. Your work ethic is definitely something I look up to.

Sorry to hear about the snapped maters. I hope Scott (Devv) is right and they'll come back. That's a lot of plants to lose. I hate losing just one. I'm battling the rain as well. I'm going to need a week of dry before I can even till. So I hear ya about the swamp.

Looking great!!!
 
So last night, managed to break the vibratory compactor roller. Today, the bolt that connects my skid loader boom to the bucket attachment plate broke. The ground fabric shipment was reported lost by the carrier. And I got the wrong submain line for the irrigation. Which doesn't matter anyway at this point since I broke the main water line from the well digging with the mini excavator.

I'm going to go hide in a bunker for a few days until the bad luck spell passes.
 
Wow, that is a bad luck streak, sounds like you need to go shoot some guns and blow off some stress. On the bright side you haven’t injured yourself since the spider bite and that record book splinter[emoji51]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Broken equipment pics..
 
OSdl8ek.jpg

 
Wnb4qjj.jpg

 
kmkdEoV.jpg

 
ADaQdnd.jpg

 
had to call in a service truck to fix the skid loader, the bolt that holds that gray arm and connector plate (which the bucket / attachments mount to) turned up missing. Big sonofabitch, too. So was the bolt that sheared on the vibratory compactor. 
 
This afternoon I dug up the water line going to the stable, broke it (was trying to avoid that.. but whatever).
 
Tomorrow I repair that and tie in what will become my field irrigation system. Went shopping for plumbing crap tonight. 2 hours back and forth through the aisles at Menards trying to piece together something that will work. There was a serious lack of 2" fittings there. So there's a cobbled together mess of galvanized, sched 40, and sched 80 stuff. 
 
Tomorrow's project. 
 
7mj7Z6J.jpg

 
KyzWVL8.jpg

 
p8Za76j.jpg

 
6Lt8dCA.jpg

 
I haven't even put it together yet and ended up with extra pieces.. ?  Why does this always happen?
 
fjB41G7.jpg

 
So far irrigation has run about $3500 in parts. Over 2 mile of dripline, about a half mile of mains, sub main, laterals. Pressure regulators, manifolds.. just a little overwhelmed at the plumbing aspects. I'm out of my league there. Plumbing is my kryptonite. 
 
 
 
Back
Top