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seeds Butch T won't germinate funny how everybody wants them

fubarhouse

fubarhouse

I've been buying them for months trying to get one to germinate, haven't had one germinate yet... funny how everybody finds out this little piece of information and suddenly everybody wants them...
 
fubarhouse said:
I've been buying them for months trying to get one to germinate, haven't had one germinate yet... funny how everybody finds out this little piece of information and suddenly everybody wants them...
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Either not enough heat, moisture or both. I've had them on my fridge now for about a week and a half and I got 2 out of 10 to sprout so far.
 
+1 on hot stuff. What are your conditions?
I'm freakin glad that Neil is having all of this success with this thing! He needs it AND deserves it! I just hope he doesn't run out of seeds!
 
I put 1.5" of potting soil in salad container from the store, soaked it,put the seeds 1/4" in and covered, then place the container cover on and put on top of the fridge.
 
hot stuff said:
I put 1.5" of potting soil in salad container from the store, soaked it,put the seeds 1/4" in and covered, then place the container cover on and put on top of the fridge.
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You need to take the cover off so the soil can get some air to keep away the possibility of it molding. I never cover my seeds and they do fine. If the soil dries out just mist it with a spray bottle filled with water.


Alan
 
I take the cover off once they sprout. I did put a few slits on the cover but just enough to keep it from getting cooked.
 
hot stuff said:
Either not enough heat, moisture or both. I've had them on my fridge now for about a week and a half and I got 2 out of 10 to sprout so far.
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I live in KC and just bought some Butch T seeds, should be here any day. I was worried it was too late to start the seeds, would I have a viable harvest if I started germinating now?
 
Deadmongoose, You should be prepared to grow in pots and or dig plant up come winter to move indoors. If it has pods on they will ripen if not it be a much improved plant for 2012. I germinated as late as July here last year but I had to overwinter them. Hydroponics can speed things along and is fun. If you run into trouble germinating the scorps do not hesitate to inquire and or describe what your doing for help here. Normally I would recommend getting help from Neil at THSC but I suspect he is busy these days.

Good luck. Mike
 
hot stuff said:
Don't know. I can only say what's working for me right now. But as usual, you don't want sopping wet soil. Just moist soil.
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+1. Ive tried both methods and havent seen much difference but dont like the soil too wet either way. Heat and a good loose germination soil is the key for me.
 
I'm germinating mine right in the soil with a heating pad underneath and a growlight on top. The temp is 86F-87F. They are just starting to sprout right now (10 days).
 
I had two out of five germinate for me. Gave a buddy one and the other one is doing well. Hope to get some serious poddage out of it.

Keep your soil moist, not soaking and temps in the mid 80's for best results when trying to germinate C. chinense seeds. Best of luck to all.

I keep my seed germinating trays covered. As soon as the seedling appears I remove it and place it under lights.

Edit for a number corrections. I was 4 for 8 with these. Two never dropped the seed caps and never made it past the seedling stage. 50% is a little better rate.
 
I'm not sure where I got the seeds, they were a throw-in from a trade or purchase, but I didn't have any problems with them. Not sure what the germination % was but I ended up keeping about 5-6 plants, so it must have been over 50% since I didn't plant more than 8-10 seeds of any one variety...
 
patrick said:
I had two out of five germinate for me. Gave a buddy one and the other one is doing well. Hope to get some serious poddage out of it.

Keep your soil moist, not soaking and temps in the mid 80's for best results when trying to germinate C. chinense seeds. Best of luck to all.

I keep my seed germinating trays covered. As soon as the seedling appears I remove it and place it under lights.
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That is exactly how I do it. Don't know exactly where I learned it, but it always works for me.
 
I planted a whole bunch (hundreds) of them...got about an 84% germination rate at 14 days...started getting hooks at about 7-8 days...

they are NOT that hard to start...if you are having issues, IMO you are doing something they don't like....there is a narrow temperature band to achieve the quick germination rates I am getting...that band is between 80-86 from what I have found...lower temperatures will require more time to germinate...as your temperatures climb above 86, you will also experience a decrease in germination rate...and when you reach 92-95 for any extended period of time, you cook the seeds (killing them)....

2 main keys to superhot germination...temperature and moisture...

1. Temperature - 84-86F constant (and I mean constant, not 75 or 90 for an hour then back to 86)

2. Moisture...you want the media you start your seeds in damp or moist, not wet...(DON"T USE PEAT PUCKS unless you really know what you are doing...it tends to be hard controlling the moisture content of them)

note...if you let the seeds dry out after they have started the germination process you will kill them...so you need to watch your moisture pretty closely...

sorry to ramble...
 
AJ's "note" is extremely important and is worthy of repeating. Once that seed shell cracks and life has begun if it's allowed to dry out that's it. Done. Kaput. Finished.
 
I agree with AJ, they're not that hard as long as you have good heat and moisture. Get a mini-greenhouse with a dome, quality seed starting mix, a spray bottle, and a thermostat. You can hook the thermostat up to either a light or a heating mat to control temperature, or both. Use the spray bottle to keep the top of the starting mix moist at all times and keep the temperature in the mid 80s and you should get good results as long as you're using good seed. With the spray bottle, just spray the tops whenever they start to dry. The excess water will just drain out the bottom.

I ended up not even using the heating mats on the second half of seedlings because they heat very unevenly (at least the ones I used...the cheapo hydrofarm ones). I got better results just using the mini-greenhouse and the light for temperature. I bought some 32-cell seed starters with domes for $2.50 each at Menards and they work great.

I started about 40 varieties of chinenses, superhots, and wilds and only had any trouble with 3-4 varieties, and only complete failure on one (white hab), and I'm hardly a master gardener.
 
Mine popped as soon as 5 days and as late as probably 10 or so. Most my seeds germinate around 7 days. I use rockwool cubes and put it in a mini seedstater greenhouse and place it on a heat mat set at about 85 degrees. I like the rockwool for easy of transplant and it's cheaper than rapid rooters, though both products work really well for me so far.
 
I simply put a seed in a pot/container,add water, place on top of refrigerator and let it sit. Top of refrig is warm, but never measured the actual temp. Have a couple different mini greenhouses that I use to hold them.


4 ButchT planted 3-27-11 and got my first hook today... 2 Brain Strain planted 4-6-11 also noticed the first hook today.
 
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