fertilizer Can leaves get this big without fertilizer?

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dragon49

I haven't yet fertilized this 17 day old plant, (My either mystery cross or mislabeled superhot yellow) but look at the thick leaves that look like they are nitrogen fed.  I sprouted this in a clay pot that was just laying around my living room with soil in it.  I did dump most of the soil out before filling it up again.  I don't thoroughly wash all of my clay pots before using them again and it's possible that this once had fertilizer in it.  Please look at the pic and answer the title question:
 
Can leaves get this big without fertilizer?
 
 

 
 
 
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No, I disagree. Had you planted that seed in a rockwool cube and only given plain water it would not be that big or lush.
 
Its soil, it has more nutrients than you think. And however slow, it is decomposing and making more. Apparently enough for your young plant to be quite happy.
 
So it's yes and no. Yes because that soil already had some nutrients but no because without nutrients it wouldn't hardly grow at all. Kinda like the question "What came first, the rooster or the egg?" Clear as mud?
 
Thanks for the replies - The specific question should be, "Can leaves get this big without adding fertilizer to the soil."
 
Kyox89 said:
I dont know man.. mine get fertilisers and they're still tiny as hell.
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Lots to consider besides ferts. Too much can poison your plant. Too much water can cause roots to rot. Too high ph can stunt your plants. Could even be just plain bad seeds. Read the grow logs, lots of helpful info there.
 
The variety makes a big difference - some just have larger leaves than others.
 
I see the pot is sitting in what looks like a bathroom sink, with what looks like a standard-sized drain to the left of it - that pot is truly tiny if that's the case. What is the inside diameter at the top?
 
 
I used MicroMaxx XP, Coco, vermiculite added a little sulphur powder and a sprinkle of empson salts and my seedings look nice like your ;) but I didnt add any 0-0-0.
This pic was before I started my organic ferts.


Its in a 16oz solo cup.
 
They have done so in nature for tens of thousands of years (or about ten thousand years if you are a creationist).


Or maybe the animals were thoughtful enough to apply a regular feeding regime.

Maybe Judy is immortal and she has fed them all this time, so much to consider.

:high:
 
geeme said:
The variety makes a big difference - some just have larger leaves than others.
 
I see the pot is sitting in what looks like a bathroom sink, with what looks like a standard-sized drain to the left of it - that pot is truly tiny if that's the case. What is the inside diameter at the top?
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The pot is 4 and 1 quarter inches tall and the inside diameter at the top is around 11 and one half inches.
 
I am bad at geometry.  What does this tell you?
 
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dragon49 said:
 
The pot is 4 and 1 quarter inches tall and the inside diameter at the top is around 11 and one half inches.
 
I am bad at geometry.  What does this tell you?
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That it's a short fat pot in the shape of a dog dish? :rolleyes: 
I see what looks like perlite in there so it's likely some type of potting soil which will have some nutrients in it no matter how old. Whatever you're doing, it must be the right thing because healthy plants don't lie ;)
 
dragon49 said:
 
The pot is 4 and 1 quarter inches tall and the inside diameter at the top is around 11 and one half inches.
I am bad at geometry.  What does this tell you?
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It gives me a better idea of how large those leaves really are. Consider if the pot was a mere 4" in diameter - the leaves would then actually be tiny. A typical bathroom sink drain fitting is what - maybe 2-1/2" diameter? I realized the perspective in the photo may have made things seem off a tad since the pot was taller, but was not sure how skewed it was. And you're sure it's diameter (across the width) and not circumference (around the edge)? If 11" in diameter, then yes, those are rather large for the age of the plant, as that would make the largest leaves about 4-5" long from tip to base, excluding the stem.
 
geeme said:
 
It gives me a better idea of how large those leaves really are. Consider if the pot was a mere 4" in diameter - the leaves would then actually be tiny. A typical bathroom sink drain fitting is what - maybe 2-1/2" diameter? I realized the perspective in the photo may have made things seem off a tad since the pot was taller, but was not sure how skewed it was. And you're sure it's diameter (across the width) and not circumference (around the edge)? If 11" in diameter, then yes, those are rather large for the age of the plant, as that would make the largest leaves about 4-5" long from tip to base, excluding the stem.
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When I get home from work, I'll have to measure the leaves and post again.  This is how I measured the inside of the pot:
 
I took a measuring tape and put it on the top inside and wrapped it around.  When the other side of the tape hit where I started, this was around 11 1/2 inches.  Is this correct technique? 
 
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