glog CaneDog 2025 Indoor/Outdoor Glog

Seems like it's been forever since I made a glog post, but 2025 is right around the corner and as someone once said, it's never too early to get started! Last year was a tough year with aphids getting into my early season starts and generally cool sucky weather, so I'm hoping for better in 2025. I'll kick things off with some pic's of my current indoor grow, which I've taken over the past couple/few weeks.

First up is a Scarlett's Chili x Poblano. They're cool looking plants with great tasting mild peppers. I'm doing a lot of work with Jalapenos and planned maintain this variety going forward while also backcrossing it a bit toward its jalapeno roots.

Another Jalapano type I have growing inside is Chile Rayado. I like how fuzzy these guys are. In addition to needing more true seeds, I want to cross it with both zapotec and orange spice jalaps.

Farmers Market Jalapeno. Another fuzzy type. Somehow I've gone forever without growing these before. I'm impressed with how vigorous and robust they are.

Mayan Cobanero. Another first time growing for me. I've been keeping it in a solo to rein in its growth, as I often do indoors, but shortly after this pic I saw it start to bud/fork so I moved it up into a 5.5" pot to fill out.

Baccatum Fragilis, with its rather unique mutated look.

Rhomboidium. After my OW finally died, I had only old-ish seeds to start again so I planted a bunch. I ended up with almost a dozen of these guys so had to cull them back. This guy was one of the lucky few that made it.

Rocoto Manzano Amarillo Ollantaytambo. Some of the rocotos haven't been too happy being restricted in solo cups, but they're looking good and still staying fairly small after getting upped to 5.5's. This guy still shows a little chlorosis on its lower leaves, but seems happy enough.

Anyhow, enough for now.
Cheers!
CD

 

[CaneDog]

@CaneDog , how do you go about isolating your pods?

Hey, Purp. All these I started early enough indoors that they set the first pods while still inside then got marked with painter's tape and moved outside to ripen. Sometimes early on I'll even bring a small plant back inside in front of a south window right when the flowers are about to open so they set inside. As long as they set inside, I don't get hybrids. Once they're outside and transplanted and such, I use big organza bags. The little bags don't work well for me, but with bigger bags I find flowers set fruit better. Still, nothing works better for me than simply letting them set inside.

 

[PurpPepp]

Hey, Purp. All these I started early enough indoors that they set the first pods while still inside then got marked with painter's tape and moved outside to ripen. Sometimes early on I'll even bring a small plant back inside in front of a south window right when the flowers are about to open so they set inside. As long as they set inside, I don't get hybrids. Once they're outside and transplanted and such, I use big organza bags. The little bags don't work well for me, but with bigger bags I find flowers set fruit better. Still, nothing works better for me than simply letting them set inside.

So, for outdoor, you mean a single isolating bag (i.e. a tea bag on each flower) doesn’t work?

 

[Marturo]

Lesya Orange. These were quite good. Sweet and I didn't notice any grassy flavor

How do they compare to the red ones CD?

 

[CaneDog]

So, for outdoor, you mean a single isolating bag (i.e. a tea bag on each flower) doesn’t work?

I meant something different. I haven't isolated flowers individually with tiny bags so I don't have experience with that. I'd think pedicel length and access might be a limiting factor in some cases, but it might work well in others. Maybe I'll give it a try.

When I first used the organza bags I used bags that were maybe 3"x4" and though I got some fruit set, I noticed the leaves and growth tips had a tendency to curl up and look unhealthy inside the bag and the flowers wouldn't set very well. I assume the bags change the environment within them, such as heat, humidity, air circulation or what not. With bigger bags the effect seems less and fruit set seems better. Frankly, I've never found a solution that's both very easy and very effective for larger scale use, but the bigger bags seem to work well enough.

 

[CaneDog]

How do they compare to the red ones CD?

They were quite sweet, but I thought the flavor was less strong. Hopefully I'll get to try them side by side later this season to get a better handle on that. I'm also curious how the plant might grow differently when they're full size in the ground. I haven't grown the red lesya often, but it's tended to cluster the pods near the center of the plant and they got soft quickly. The orange seem a bit less clustered together and the pods stayed firm. That could be based on limited experience though.

 

[Marturo]

I haven't grown the red lesya often, but it's tended to cluster the pods near the center of the plant and they got soft quickly.

Not only that, the red ones tend to split the plants unless you watch them like a hawk.

 

[Doctor Scoville]

I meant something different. I haven't isolated flowers individually with tiny bags so I don't have experience with that. I'd think pedicel length and access might be a limiting factor in some cases, but it might work well in others. Maybe I'll give it a try.

When I first used the organza bags I used bags that were maybe 3"x4" and though I got some fruit set, I noticed the leaves and growth tips had a tendency to curl up and look unhealthy inside the bag and the flowers wouldn't set very well. I assume the bags change the environment within them, such as heat, humidity, air circulation or what not. With bigger bags the effect seems less and fruit set seems better. Frankly, I've never found a solution that's both very easy and very effective for larger scale use, but the bigger bags seem to work well enough.

I've recently tried this. Choosing a bud that still has to develop inside the bag made it hard to get the bag to fit. about 18 out of 20 bags ended up breaking the stem of the fowerbud.

im trying again in august when the plants are bigger. this might give the space for the bag. Otherwise i'm thinking of pollinating with a paintbrush and then separating the flower with a zipplock bag.

cheers

 

[SatanicFlatIron]

great tips, CD! I'm always trying to improve my isolation percentages on the pepper crosses. I've noticed too that the small bags create a different microenvironment, I've recently started removing all the leaves leaving the petioles to protect the flowers. Bringing them inside for fruiting is also a great idea

 

[CaneDog]

Good to hear others' ideas on this. Anything to make it easier to maintain good supplies of isolated seeds is appreciated.