chinense Caramel Carolina Reaper

BlackFatalii said:
Yeah, it was mentioned on the "Hot Ones" YouTube show earlier today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Fc_eOkM8M It is apparently yet another of Ed Currie's unreleased peppers. It is supposed to be hotter than the standard Reaper.
 
If you wanted something obtainable that you can actually grow, Justin has a pretty evil looking caramel Reaper cross available on his site here: https://www.whitehotpeppers.com/products/caramel-reaper-cross
 
 
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that is the Caramel Reaper cross seeds i was thinking of
thanks BlackFatalii
 
AJ Drew said:
So we know there is a red, chocolate, peach, purple, and yellow.  Where is white?
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working on it :)
 
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PepperLover said:
 
working on it :)
 
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I read and probably on your site, that you were working on lots of whites.  I dabble with crossing, but rarely know what to expect ahead of time.  I would think white is wildly recessive.  Is there some guidance you could lend? 

I used to breed chicken.  One of the techniques for bringing a recessive gene out was called line breeding.  If it were as simple as a gene for red and white chicken, you would breed a red and white and get all red offspring.  But then if you bred the offspring back to the white parent, you would start to see white off spring faster than if you bed off spring to offspring hoping for recessive genes to match up.

Same concept?  You know it is weird.  One would think that plants are simpler than animals, but chicken dna seems amazingly simplistic compared to other things.
 
Leftmost looks both caramel and like a Reaper. The others are a little off.
Not saying that it's a Caramel Reaper but it sure looks like what I'd imagine one to be.
 
How much yellow and how much brown in their ripened state? If they're hot and will take a purple hue well, I'd be interested in maybe growing some for my own breeding project and keeping a few uncrossed on the side.
 
From what I have read, random mutation is incredibly rare.  So I think what this thread is showing is that either the dna of peppers is far more complicated than most of us think or bees and other insects are far better at cross pollinating things than we think.
 
I was taught, ages ago, that random mutations occur very frequently and that the average human has two mutations going on, whether they are aware of it or not. However, in terms of chiles, I think the idea that all these varieties keep migrating with marketable color variations, is really questionable. Crosses seem more likely, and given the desirability of these color traits, I suspect that growers are responsible at least as often as the bees are.
 
Bicycle808 said:
I was taught, she's ago, that random mutations occur very frequently and that the average human has two mutations going on,
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I should have said something like inherent n viable mutations are rare.  If a red pepper has a random mutation that makes it yellow, chances are it either wont pass it on or cant pass anything on.  So ye, I am going with you that what gets to market is likely cross.  At a minimum I bag things with five gallon paint strainers and even that is not 100%.  You do what you can.

If a possum can get into my house, a cross pollinator can get into what ever you use to keep them out.
 
Guatemalan Insanity Pepper said:
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i recently discovered seeds available for a purple Reaper cross
 
http://www.fordsfieryfoodsandplants.com/Purple-carolina-reaper
 
think i saw a caramel reaper cross too but who had it  :think:  it'll come to me...
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I was sent that caramel reaper cross before it was okay.  Purple ones seems like a hoax.  Probably just a reaper plant with a suntan issue.  People are quick these days in the pepper world to make a buck off unstable unknown genetics that they grew out once and got given from someone else's garden.  Jim Duffy pulled this one me already.
 
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