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Coach's 2015 Overwhelming Grow

Final Grow List- Updated 3/25/15- 152 Varieties, Around 280 plants:
7 Pot Brain Strain, Red

7 Pot Brain Strain, Yellow

7 Pot Bubblegum, Red

7 Pot Burgundy

7 Pot Caramel

7 Pot Chaguanas

7 Pot Jonah x PDN, F3

7 Pot Jonah, Red

7 Pot Primo, Orange

7 Pot Primo, Red

7 Pot Primo, Yellow

7 Pot White

7 Pot Yellow

7 Pot Yellow x Bhut Jolokia India Carbon

Aji Amarillo

Aji Bolivian Long

Aji Brazilian Starfish

Aji Colorado

Ají Dulce, Orange

Ají Fantasy

Aji Jobito

Aji Lemon Drop

Aji Melocoton

Ají Omnicolor

Aji Panca

Aji Pineapple

Aji Queen Laurie

Aleppo

Ancient Sweet

Bad Brains

Bahamian Goat

Banana, Sweet Monster Heirloom

Bell, Lilac

Bell, Yellow

Bhut Jolokia, India Carbon

Bhut Jolokia, Peach

Bhut Jolokia, Purple

Bhut Jolokia, Red

Bhut Jolokia, White

Bhut Jolokia, Yellow

Bhut Orange Copenhagen

Bih Jolokia, Caramel

Bishop's Crown

Black Stinger

Bonda ma Jacques


Bonda ma Jacques x Yellow 7 Pot

Carolina Reaper

Cayenne, Purple

Cayenne, Ring of Fire

CGN 21500

CGN 21566

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Long

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Cone

Chiltepin x Reaper

Cinnamon Bell

Condor's Beak

Congo, Chocolate

Congo, Peach

Cumari do Para

Datil

Devil's Tongue, White

Dulcetta, Orange

Ethiopian Berbere

Fatalii x TSMB, Yellow

Fatalii, Black

Fatalii, Chocolate

Fatalii, Peach

Fatalii, Peach cross

Fatalii, Red

Fatalii, White

Fatalii, Yellow

Fish

Goat's Weed

Golden Treasure

Goronong

Grif 9304- Colombian Lightning

Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow

Habanero, Carolina Yellow

Habanero, Chocolate

Habanero, Dominican Huge Orange

Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel

Habanero, Large Red Belize Market

Habanero, Mustard Lightning

Habanero, Orange

Habanero, Paper Lantern

Habanero, Peach

Habanero, Red Savina

Habanero, St. Bart's

Hair

Hungarian Yellow Wax (mild)

Jalapeno, Biker Billy

Jalapeno, Early

Jalapeno, Long

Jalapeno, Purple

Jalapeno, Yellow x 7 Pot Bubblegum

Jamaican Mushroom, Yellow

Japones

Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion

Jay's Red Ghost Scorpion

Jwala

Manzano, Caballo Amarillo 

Naga Morich

Naga, Black

Nagabrain, Chocolate

Peach Wasp

Pepperoncini, Greek

Pepperoncini, Italian

Peruvian Serlano

PI 199506- Aji Guyana

PI 281424- PR Mushroom

Pimenta Leopard

Prik Chi Faa

Purple Flash

Rainforest

Red Hot Cherry

Red Savina x Fatalii Red

Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow

Red Savina x Fatalii, Chocolate

Rocoto, Orange

Rocoto, Red

Rooster Spur

SB7J (mushroom pheno)

Scotch Bonnet x Naga Morich

Scotch Bonnet, Burkina Yellow

Scotch Bonnet, Cappuccino

Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate

Scotch Bonnet, MoA red

Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow

Serrano

Shishito

Shumenski Rotund

Star of Turkey

Stuffed Red Giant

Sukari

Sulu Adana

Superhot Cross, Yellow

Tabasco

Tepin x Lemon Drop

Thai, Large Orange

Trinidad Beans

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Butch T

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Sweet

Trinidad Scorpion, Chocolate

Unidentified Brain Strain Cross, Red

Wiri Wiri

Xalapa

Yalova Charleston

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I've got a 3 shelf, 70"x48"x24" unit as my main indoor system. Being in North Carolina, I can put plants into the ground in mid-April. I've got other shelves to use when needed.
 
INTRO
I coach high school Cross Country & Track.
I teach AP Psychology. People say psychology majors are the people who need help the most. I was a History major, but people who spend a lot of time thinking about psychology may self-diagnose at times. Maybe. No one's ever told me I'm OCD. I'm super messy, but I do have a major "all or nothing" theme in my life. I run 100 mile races. I haven't washed my car or had it washed since 1991. I only wear 3 colors of shirts- black, navy & green (& only green because it's a school color). Maybe I have a problem. :) Why would peppers be any different?
 
I've always had gardens of some size- even if just 6-8 tomato plants & a couple of squash. In 2014, I expanded my garden exponentially. Still have a lot of fall/winter crops. I've never grown peppers or tomatoes from seed & only grew jalapenos, habaneros, bells, cayenne & tabasco. In mid-October, I only had 5 varieties of pepper seeds. Two months, later, I have 220, thanks to stumbling across this site & benefiting from the generosity of the folks on this site. Expanded my seed stockpile through giveaways, trades, harvesting from pods, and buying just a few. Incredibly generosity here. I've paid forward some of that, though my stock is limited to 5-10 seeds for most varieties minus what I have or will grow this season.
 
I've had a ton of questions & I've made a lot of mistakes so far. Hopefully this will evolve into more of voice of experience in a few months, but now, I suppose the glog is more a consolidation of advice seeking.
 
HISTORY TO DATE
The plan is to plant a total of six 1020 flats with 48 cells in each & to spread it out roughtly a month apart- two Nov. 1, two Dec. 1 & two Jan. 1.
 
I started germinating some seeds in bags October 26 but followed up 10 days later with seeds in soil. I didn't notice a difference in germination rates or speed between the two methods so I won't use bags in the future. I was a little impatient with germination, but after planting 2 seeds in each of 96 cells, I ended up with 88 seeds that popped. Not quite 50%, but it's a learning process. Almost all of the last set of seeds I planted sprouted. Problems were:
* Planted too deep
* Compacted soil too much
* Not ideal mix of soil. Used a mix of 3 store bought mixes with added Vermiculite. The one I used most heavily had too much mulchy compost. Have since improved with finer soil & Perlite.
* Temperature wasn't that consistent early on. 
 
I have all of that worked out for later germination.
 
I will complete the last of the 2nd wave of planting this week. 
 
OTHER PROBLEMS
BUGS
About 3 weeks ago, I came home to little tiny orange bugs on the underside of the cotyledons & tiny gray flying bugs- fewer of the gray ones. I sprayed insecticidal soap and the orange guys didn't last long. The tiny gray ones are still around but not in great numbers. I see one flying around a few times a day. 
 
YELLOWING
I've had about 6-8 seedlings die after yellowing. I'm positive I overwatered a little early. Last week, nearly ALL of my seedlings were looking a little yellow. I have watered very sparingly in the past 3-4 weeks. Every couple of days, some shrivel up & I give them a tiny bit of water. A few hours later, they bounce back. Besides that, I haven't really watered in the past 2 weeks. I changed my lighting around 3 days ago & have seen some changes... Was using one set of two 4" T8 lights with two 23w/1600 lumen CFLs on a clip & one 65w/950 lumen light for some heat. T8s were probably too far from the plants- maybe 16". 3 days ago, I added a second T8 fixture & ditched the other lights. I dropped the T8s to about 6" from the plants. The leaves seemed to have darken up a bit in the 3 days since. Today, I added some reflective insulation. I've had the lights on 18 hours/day. Temps have been a steady 82 degrees when they're on & 70 when they're off.
 
 
LIGHT BURN?
One of the reasons I got rid of the CFLs is because I couldn't put them anywhere except very close to the plants & noticed some darkened leaves in places where I left a CFL for several hours. Since then & since putting the four T8s on them 3 days ago, I've seen some dark spots form on the leaves that I don't remember being there before. 
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Sorry you'll have to tilt your head. Several leaves are spotty like this after moving T8s down to about 5-6" from seedlings. A few were very dark after being very close to CFLs.
NO REAL LEAVES YET??
I only have ONE seedling with anything but cotyledons. That one has had it for 2 weeks but hasn't really grown since. There are a few other seedlings that are developing other leaves but they haven't fully developed yet. Should this be a concern since some of these seedlings sprouted a month ago?
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My only true leaves. Notice leaves aren't very dark. Yellow Fatalii.      Yellow daying seedlings. About 6-8 have died.
 
I know this is a wordy post but just trying to establish some background.
Seeds started between October 26-November 7 that sprouted & are still alive:
7 Pot Primo, Red
7 Pot White
Aji Pineapple
Bahamian Goat
Bhut Jolokia, Peach
CGN 21500
Cinnamon Bell
Datil
Fatalii, Black
Fatalii, Chocolate
Fatalii, White
Fatalii, Yellow
Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel
Habanero, White Bullet
Peach Wasp
Rainforest
Rocoto, Red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow
Thai, Large Orange
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown
Trinidad Scorpion Sweet
 
Seeds started between December 2-8. A few more planned this week & then a 3rd wave around January 1.
7 Pot Bubblegum, Red
7 Pot Chaguanas
7 Pot Jonah x PN, F3
7 Pot Jonah, Red
Aji Amarillo
Aji Bolivian Long
Aji Brazilian Starfish
Aji Colorado
Aji Lemon Drop
Aji Melocoton
Bad Brains
Bhut Jolokia, Red
Carolina Reaper
Dystopia (7 Pot Bubblegum variant)
Fatalii, Peach
Goronong
Habanero, Black
Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow
Habanero, Chocolate
Habanero, Mustard Lightning
Habanero, Paper Lantern
Habanero, Pastel Orange
Habanero, Peach
Jalapeno, Biker Billy
Jalapeno, Early
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion
Manzano, Yellow
Pimenta Leopard
Red Savina x Fatalii Red
Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow
Scotch Bonnet x 7 Pot Jonah yellow
Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate
Star of Turkey
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow
Yellow Jal x 7 Pot Bubblegum
 
Still working on the list for the last 35 or so varieties. Most annuums will go in the last round of planting.
 
Very nice pods Coach. Hope you feel better. Could be panic or anxiety. Hope it's just the body saying take it easy. You don't sound like the take it easy guy. I'm the same way. Always on the go.

Anyways thanks for sharing rest up this weekend.
 
tctenten said:
Feel better Coach. Peppers look great.
Thanks!
 
OCD Chilehead said:
Very nice pods Coach. Hope you feel better. Could be panic or anxiety. Hope it's just the body saying take it easy. You don't sound like the take it easy guy. I'm the same way. Always on the go.

Anyways thanks for sharing rest up this weekend.
Thanks. Haha. I'm not... and as a teacher with summers off, I should be pretty relaxed, you'd think. Now they're thinking it's a parasite I picked up in Morocco or Spain. I left out the GI part of the equation in my original post. I've lost 9 pounds in between doctors visits in 5 days. I ran 12 miles yesterday & 11 today at a snail's pace but felt like I was going to keel over. I'll live, I'm pretty sure, but thanks.
 
Some pictures... picked maybe 2% of the ripe pods I have today.
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This is the pepper I thought about for months when I went to bed. I can't tell you how eager I was to get ripe ones. CARDI Yellow:
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Goronong & what's supposed to be Bhut Jolokia India Carbon:
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Scotch Bonnet x Naga Morich from HotToddy, Yellow Brain Strain, Caramel 7 Pot, & Black Naga:
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Bolivian Bumpy Habanero, Peach Wasp, Carolina Yellow Habanero, 7 Pot Chaguanas:
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7 Pot Yellow x Bhut Jolokia, Red Moruga, Tepin x Aji Lemon Drop, Black Fatalii:
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Nice looking pods. Great pics as well. Congrats on Cardi Yellow. That SBxNM looks great too.

23 miles in two days isn't bad for a guy that runs 100......and sick too. Your like the energizer bunny on RedBull. LOL

I do hope you feel better and the docs can figure out what's ailing you.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Those are some really nice looking pods! Yesterday I tried the first ripe Aji Pineapple, grown from the seeds you gave me. Instantly became one of my favorite peppers.
 
OCD Chilehead said:
Nice looking pods. Great pics as well. Congrats on Cardi Yellow. That SBxNM looks great too.

23 miles in two days isn't bad for a guy that runs 100......and sick too. Your like the energizer bunny on RedBull. LOL

I do hope you feel better and the docs can figure out what's ailing you.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Thanks. I'm kinda dumb. I'm at 43 miles for the past 4 days & will hit 70 for the week but that's almost all I've done. Good think I'm a teacher with nothing to do but coach kids for 2 hours in the morning. The peppers are taking care of themselves (except for more bug holes than I'd like), but the rest of the garden could use some help. I figure I could feel so so & not get the running in or feel lousy & run. I'm choosing the running.
SteelHeat said:
Thnx for posting the pix! Take it easy too bro.
Thanks. The colors & shapes are probably equally appealing to me as the heat & taste. :) 
 
Peter S said:
Those are some really nice looking pods! Yesterday I tried the first ripe Aji Pineapple, grown from the seeds you gave me. Instantly became one of my favorite peppers.
Glad you liked it! They are pretty good and the plants are pretty prolific. I'm growing what was labeled Aji Pineapple, Aji Lemon Drop & Aji Amarillo and notice very very little difference. I'm pretty sure the Amarillo isn't right. I think it should be more orange. Headed up sort of near your way (Brevard) for running camp with my team in a week. Looking forward to just a few degrees cooler. Think I'll head up near Grandfather Mountain this weekend.
Every couple of days I pick 6-8 different peppers that I want to be sure to try in addition to any others I may eat. I've been eating 2 superhots a day & then sweets, jalapenos, serranos, fataliis... Here are those I have lined up to try in the next couple of days. The Bad Brains didn't make it 5 minutes inside before I ate it in some food. Best superhot I've tried. Shout out to Wes Lane.
 
Bad Brains, SB7J, Bhut Orange Copenhagen, Peach Fatalii cross, Black Fatalii, off pheno Reaper, unknown peach (lost the tag & doesn't match with anything I meant to grow. Plant is loaded with these), Yellow 7 Pot x Bhut, Hair:
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I'll definitely save seeds from this Peach Fatalii cross. The photos aren't showing it's color very well. Definitely peach.
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Trident chilli said:
Rick phenominal photography on a great back drop personally my favourite has to be SB x NM but the others have some great shapes especially the CARDI ..... Grandfather Mountain love the name
Thanks! I grew up coming to the Grandfather Mountain area a couple of times a year & as an adult, go up every month or two. I'd always been told the name came from the face seen as the grandfather was on his back. As it turns out, its an upright profile on one of the small peaks. Oh well.
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Pulpiteer said:
Man, those pods pics are awesome! Very well done!
Thanks!
 
Not the greatest pictures but thought I'd mix things up rather than just post pods.
First picture: longer purple pods are Buena Mulatta I got from Juanitos. Didn't plant it at first but did late & am happy I did, Dilly Street Tamwork are the small purples, one on the right is the ever popular Goats Weed:
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 Impossible to get a good picture of the garden as a whole. Here are maybe 125 of the 280 pepper plants with some other stuff in the background:
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And at the risk of double posting, here are some peppers I picked today & posted to sell for $14/box:
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Top Row: Black Naga, MoA Yellow Scotch Bonnet, MoA Red Scotch Bonnet, Yellow Billy Boy Douglah, Brown Moruga cross, Bhut Orange Copenhagen, Bahamian Goat, St. Bart's Habanero, Brown Fatalii, CARDI Yellow Scorpion, Large Orange Thai; Middle Row: Hair, Peach Wasp, Peruvian Serlano, SB7J, Mustard Lightning Hab, CARDI Red Scorpion, Datil, Galapagos Island-Isabella Habanero, Yellow Moruga, Serrano ripe & a little corked, Yellow Brain Strain, Paper Lantern Hab, Jamaican Yellow Hot; Bottom Row: CGN 21500, supposed to be 7 Pot Burgundy, Tepin x Lemon Drop, supposed to be Bhut Indian Carbon, Ring of Fire Cayenne
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In other news, I got a couple of Red Rocotos to finally pod up. No easy task in this heat. One plant may have had 50 blossoms that did nothing.
 
muskymojo said:
Very impressive garden! :clap:

Let's see the rest of it!

Nice pods too.
I wish. Most of it has really had a hard time with the heat we've had this summer. I gave the tomatoes some extra care today, weeding, fertilizing & mulching. We'll see if they perk up a bit. Worst tomato crop I've ever had & I grew about 5x more than I ever have. I'll post more garden pictures soon.
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Being a novice & having so many varieties in the garden, I'm trying a new pepper about every other day. Seems like I have a new favorite pepper about twice a week- Yellow Brain Strain, Bad Brains, BOC, and now Yellow 7 Pot x Bonda Ma Jacques. I ate this one for the first time today. Really really good. Also at my first Queen Laurie & the first Burkina Yellow I've grown (though I had the one I got seeds from last fall). Both of them were exceptionally good too. But that Yellow 7 Pot x Bonda Ma Jacques... mmm... I guess it makes sense your favorite pepper is the last one you ate. :) Truth be told, I can tell if I like something or not but it's difficult to judge between peppers just using memory. I remember when I got into (& dove head first) this pepper nonsense last October I wished there was a list of the 20 or 40 or 60 peppers you just "had to have." Now I'm seeing why there's not. I have identified a few I won't grow next year, but finding favorites that I have to grow will be tough if I plan on narrowing down the list. When I look at all of the seeds that have found their way to me in the past few months, I know there may be different peppers in the garden next year, but maybe not fewer. sigh... :)
 
Anyway, here's the beautiful & tasty Yellow 7 Pot x Bonda Ma Jacques.
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Reposted picture from SB7J Community Grow thread. Planted 3 plants from the same seed source. Labeled as "SB7J Red Mushroom pheno." Got 2 green plants with green pods that ripened to dull red & 1 purple stemmed plant that has purple pods that have ripened to pale yellow. No heat on one of the red podded plants & the yellow one, but high pungency & great taste on the other red one. To further complicate things, I have one labeled as "supposed to be SB7J red but mine were yellow" that I planted much later & those haven't ripened yet. Interesting that all plants have uniform pod shape with so much other variation.
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coachspencerxc said:
Picked about half of the ripe ones today. Easily 1,000. Will pick the other half tomorrow. Now I have a wheelbarrow of peppers in my kitchen. That's normal, right? Someone's going to be busy in the next few days.
What will you do with all those?  Good luck with whatever you do.  One hell of a pull. I suspect I will have a similar pull in a few weeks or a month.  I been over eager and pulling a lot a little early, got about 100 tonight but left on at least 2 or 3 hundred I could have picked but convinced myself to let them ripen a bit more.
 
 I missed your post from back in July, how was that Yellow CARDI,  looks awesome.  The more I see of that one the more I am convince mine last year was not true.  It was similar but not much of a tail and really mild for a scorpion, more like a mild habanero even.  
 
Genetikx said:
I can see you're at the point where you don't even care what variety is what lol. It can escalate quickly
 
 
jcw10tc said:
What will you do with all those?  Good luck with whatever you do.  One hell of a pull. I suspect I will have a similar pull in a few weeks or a month.  I been over eager and pulling a lot a little early, got about 100 tonight but left on at least 2 or 3 hundred I could have picked but convinced myself to let them ripen a bit more.
 
 I missed your post from back in July, how was that Yellow CARDI,  looks awesome.  The more I see of that one the more I am convince mine last year was not true.  It was similar but not much of a tail and really mild for a scorpion, more like a mild habanero even.  
I'll separate them tomorrow by color & heat level, but not really variety. I'll freeze some for sauces later. I'll also smoke, dehydrate & grind most them. How much powder will that be though?? ...pickle jalapenos & serranos... ...give some away to friends... any other ideas?
 
Genetikx said:
With that many, I'd run them through a food mill to separate the seeds and harvest the pulp. I'd then put the pulp in mason jars with a top layer of salt and pressure cook. Come back a year later and you've got the best base for sauce imaginable.
Yeah? How much salt?
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Brown Scorpion:
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Seeds said "Orange Primo." Not sure I'd call this orange & the walls are much thicker than other Primos:
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Getting a few watermelons a week. This is my favorite so far... dare I say the best I've ever eaten? Orange Tendersweet. REALLY good. Really sweet.
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There's probably a reason I've never seen anyone growing this one. Shape is neat but very little taste or heat. Got seeds from GRIN. PI 281424.
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