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Coach's 2015 Overwhelming Grow

Final Grow List- Updated 3/25/15- 152 Varieties, Around 280 plants:
7 Pot Brain Strain, Red

7 Pot Brain Strain, Yellow

7 Pot Bubblegum, Red

7 Pot Burgundy

7 Pot Caramel

7 Pot Chaguanas

7 Pot Jonah x PDN, F3

7 Pot Jonah, Red

7 Pot Primo, Orange

7 Pot Primo, Red

7 Pot Primo, Yellow

7 Pot White

7 Pot Yellow

7 Pot Yellow x Bhut Jolokia India Carbon

Aji Amarillo

Aji Bolivian Long

Aji Brazilian Starfish

Aji Colorado

Ají Dulce, Orange

Ají Fantasy

Aji Jobito

Aji Lemon Drop

Aji Melocoton

Ají Omnicolor

Aji Panca

Aji Pineapple

Aji Queen Laurie

Aleppo

Ancient Sweet

Bad Brains

Bahamian Goat

Banana, Sweet Monster Heirloom

Bell, Lilac

Bell, Yellow

Bhut Jolokia, India Carbon

Bhut Jolokia, Peach

Bhut Jolokia, Purple

Bhut Jolokia, Red

Bhut Jolokia, White

Bhut Jolokia, Yellow

Bhut Orange Copenhagen

Bih Jolokia, Caramel

Bishop's Crown

Black Stinger

Bonda ma Jacques


Bonda ma Jacques x Yellow 7 Pot

Carolina Reaper

Cayenne, Purple

Cayenne, Ring of Fire

CGN 21500

CGN 21566

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Long

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Cone

Chiltepin x Reaper

Cinnamon Bell

Condor's Beak

Congo, Chocolate

Congo, Peach

Cumari do Para

Datil

Devil's Tongue, White

Dulcetta, Orange

Ethiopian Berbere

Fatalii x TSMB, Yellow

Fatalii, Black

Fatalii, Chocolate

Fatalii, Peach

Fatalii, Peach cross

Fatalii, Red

Fatalii, White

Fatalii, Yellow

Fish

Goat's Weed

Golden Treasure

Goronong

Grif 9304- Colombian Lightning

Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow

Habanero, Carolina Yellow

Habanero, Chocolate

Habanero, Dominican Huge Orange

Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel

Habanero, Large Red Belize Market

Habanero, Mustard Lightning

Habanero, Orange

Habanero, Paper Lantern

Habanero, Peach

Habanero, Red Savina

Habanero, St. Bart's

Hair

Hungarian Yellow Wax (mild)

Jalapeno, Biker Billy

Jalapeno, Early

Jalapeno, Long

Jalapeno, Purple

Jalapeno, Yellow x 7 Pot Bubblegum

Jamaican Mushroom, Yellow

Japones

Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion

Jay's Red Ghost Scorpion

Jwala

Manzano, Caballo Amarillo 

Naga Morich

Naga, Black

Nagabrain, Chocolate

Peach Wasp

Pepperoncini, Greek

Pepperoncini, Italian

Peruvian Serlano

PI 199506- Aji Guyana

PI 281424- PR Mushroom

Pimenta Leopard

Prik Chi Faa

Purple Flash

Rainforest

Red Hot Cherry

Red Savina x Fatalii Red

Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow

Red Savina x Fatalii, Chocolate

Rocoto, Orange

Rocoto, Red

Rooster Spur

SB7J (mushroom pheno)

Scotch Bonnet x Naga Morich

Scotch Bonnet, Burkina Yellow

Scotch Bonnet, Cappuccino

Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate

Scotch Bonnet, MoA red

Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow

Serrano

Shishito

Shumenski Rotund

Star of Turkey

Stuffed Red Giant

Sukari

Sulu Adana

Superhot Cross, Yellow

Tabasco

Tepin x Lemon Drop

Thai, Large Orange

Trinidad Beans

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Butch T

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Sweet

Trinidad Scorpion, Chocolate

Unidentified Brain Strain Cross, Red

Wiri Wiri

Xalapa

Yalova Charleston

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I've got a 3 shelf, 70"x48"x24" unit as my main indoor system. Being in North Carolina, I can put plants into the ground in mid-April. I've got other shelves to use when needed.
 
INTRO
I coach high school Cross Country & Track.
I teach AP Psychology. People say psychology majors are the people who need help the most. I was a History major, but people who spend a lot of time thinking about psychology may self-diagnose at times. Maybe. No one's ever told me I'm OCD. I'm super messy, but I do have a major "all or nothing" theme in my life. I run 100 mile races. I haven't washed my car or had it washed since 1991. I only wear 3 colors of shirts- black, navy & green (& only green because it's a school color). Maybe I have a problem. :) Why would peppers be any different?
 
I've always had gardens of some size- even if just 6-8 tomato plants & a couple of squash. In 2014, I expanded my garden exponentially. Still have a lot of fall/winter crops. I've never grown peppers or tomatoes from seed & only grew jalapenos, habaneros, bells, cayenne & tabasco. In mid-October, I only had 5 varieties of pepper seeds. Two months, later, I have 220, thanks to stumbling across this site & benefiting from the generosity of the folks on this site. Expanded my seed stockpile through giveaways, trades, harvesting from pods, and buying just a few. Incredibly generosity here. I've paid forward some of that, though my stock is limited to 5-10 seeds for most varieties minus what I have or will grow this season.
 
I've had a ton of questions & I've made a lot of mistakes so far. Hopefully this will evolve into more of voice of experience in a few months, but now, I suppose the glog is more a consolidation of advice seeking.
 
HISTORY TO DATE
The plan is to plant a total of six 1020 flats with 48 cells in each & to spread it out roughtly a month apart- two Nov. 1, two Dec. 1 & two Jan. 1.
 
I started germinating some seeds in bags October 26 but followed up 10 days later with seeds in soil. I didn't notice a difference in germination rates or speed between the two methods so I won't use bags in the future. I was a little impatient with germination, but after planting 2 seeds in each of 96 cells, I ended up with 88 seeds that popped. Not quite 50%, but it's a learning process. Almost all of the last set of seeds I planted sprouted. Problems were:
* Planted too deep
* Compacted soil too much
* Not ideal mix of soil. Used a mix of 3 store bought mixes with added Vermiculite. The one I used most heavily had too much mulchy compost. Have since improved with finer soil & Perlite.
* Temperature wasn't that consistent early on. 
 
I have all of that worked out for later germination.
 
I will complete the last of the 2nd wave of planting this week. 
 
OTHER PROBLEMS
BUGS
About 3 weeks ago, I came home to little tiny orange bugs on the underside of the cotyledons & tiny gray flying bugs- fewer of the gray ones. I sprayed insecticidal soap and the orange guys didn't last long. The tiny gray ones are still around but not in great numbers. I see one flying around a few times a day. 
 
YELLOWING
I've had about 6-8 seedlings die after yellowing. I'm positive I overwatered a little early. Last week, nearly ALL of my seedlings were looking a little yellow. I have watered very sparingly in the past 3-4 weeks. Every couple of days, some shrivel up & I give them a tiny bit of water. A few hours later, they bounce back. Besides that, I haven't really watered in the past 2 weeks. I changed my lighting around 3 days ago & have seen some changes... Was using one set of two 4" T8 lights with two 23w/1600 lumen CFLs on a clip & one 65w/950 lumen light for some heat. T8s were probably too far from the plants- maybe 16". 3 days ago, I added a second T8 fixture & ditched the other lights. I dropped the T8s to about 6" from the plants. The leaves seemed to have darken up a bit in the 3 days since. Today, I added some reflective insulation. I've had the lights on 18 hours/day. Temps have been a steady 82 degrees when they're on & 70 when they're off.
 
 
LIGHT BURN?
One of the reasons I got rid of the CFLs is because I couldn't put them anywhere except very close to the plants & noticed some darkened leaves in places where I left a CFL for several hours. Since then & since putting the four T8s on them 3 days ago, I've seen some dark spots form on the leaves that I don't remember being there before. 
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Sorry you'll have to tilt your head. Several leaves are spotty like this after moving T8s down to about 5-6" from seedlings. A few were very dark after being very close to CFLs.
NO REAL LEAVES YET??
I only have ONE seedling with anything but cotyledons. That one has had it for 2 weeks but hasn't really grown since. There are a few other seedlings that are developing other leaves but they haven't fully developed yet. Should this be a concern since some of these seedlings sprouted a month ago?
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My only true leaves. Notice leaves aren't very dark. Yellow Fatalii.      Yellow daying seedlings. About 6-8 have died.
 
I know this is a wordy post but just trying to establish some background.
Seeds started between October 26-November 7 that sprouted & are still alive:
7 Pot Primo, Red
7 Pot White
Aji Pineapple
Bahamian Goat
Bhut Jolokia, Peach
CGN 21500
Cinnamon Bell
Datil
Fatalii, Black
Fatalii, Chocolate
Fatalii, White
Fatalii, Yellow
Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel
Habanero, White Bullet
Peach Wasp
Rainforest
Rocoto, Red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow
Thai, Large Orange
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown
Trinidad Scorpion Sweet
 
Seeds started between December 2-8. A few more planned this week & then a 3rd wave around January 1.
7 Pot Bubblegum, Red
7 Pot Chaguanas
7 Pot Jonah x PN, F3
7 Pot Jonah, Red
Aji Amarillo
Aji Bolivian Long
Aji Brazilian Starfish
Aji Colorado
Aji Lemon Drop
Aji Melocoton
Bad Brains
Bhut Jolokia, Red
Carolina Reaper
Dystopia (7 Pot Bubblegum variant)
Fatalii, Peach
Goronong
Habanero, Black
Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow
Habanero, Chocolate
Habanero, Mustard Lightning
Habanero, Paper Lantern
Habanero, Pastel Orange
Habanero, Peach
Jalapeno, Biker Billy
Jalapeno, Early
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion
Manzano, Yellow
Pimenta Leopard
Red Savina x Fatalii Red
Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow
Scotch Bonnet x 7 Pot Jonah yellow
Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate
Star of Turkey
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow
Yellow Jal x 7 Pot Bubblegum
 
Still working on the list for the last 35 or so varieties. Most annuums will go in the last round of planting.
 
Nice space.  I wish I had that in the back.  Most of my yard is in front of the house.  150' x 210' in front of the house.  It probably wouldn't go over well if I tried to plant peppers or anything else in the front yard.
 
jcw10tc said:
Nice space.  I wish I had that in the back.  Most of my yard is in front of the house.  150' x 210' in front of the house.  It probably wouldn't go over well if I tried to plant peppers or anything else in the front yard.
Only one way to find out. :)  
 
In the house I just moved out of, I had a decent amount of space in the backyard, but not a ton. I put a few strategically placed squash plants in the front yard. They look ornamental enough to me. The primary reason we moved is because it's 1 mile from work & my daughter's school (where she'll go from now- 5th grade until she graduates HS) but a close second was to find a little more garden space. The commute is a lot better than the 25 minute one we had before.
 
beerbreath81 said:
Wow coach, you been busy over there. I like your grow setup, neat and organized. cant wait to see the gals in the ground. Keep on with yo bad self!! ;)
Thanks! Hey, I've been eating your "Kitchen Sink" powder literally every single day lately. It's good but I like the tube container its in too. 
Peter S said:
Nice progress on your plants! Looks like you have a good space to put them outside. Are you putting all in the ground, or some in containers?
Thanks. All in the ground except for a few ornamentals in pots in the front... I MAY put just 3-5 or so more in pots, but the plan was all in the ground. 
 
I just had to do it. 152 varieties wasn't enough. Had to plant 28 more tonight for an even 180 if they all germinate. There were a few that didn't germinate the first time I tried & others I just HAD to plant. I know it's really late, but I think I can get pods off of these by my first frost date- around October 28. Here are the new additions:
 
Small Serrano my parents found in the mountains of Guatemala (How's that for a name?)
Black Coban
Amish Bush
7JPN x TSMB 
Buena Mulata 
PDN
Biquinho Iracema
Orange Bell
Pink Scotch Bonnet
SB7J from surprise yellow pods
Sepia Serpent
Dystopia
Black Bhut
Yolo Wonder
Mustard Habanero
Mustard Scorpion
Bode
Cabai Burong-Urgu
PDN x Naga Suomi
Bhut x Barrackpore
UBSC Brown
7 Pot x Brown Bhut
Dilley Street Tamworks
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion x Primo
 
coachspencerxc said:
I just had to do it. 152 varieties wasn't enough. Had to plant 28 more tonight for an even 180 if they all germinate. There were a few that didn't germinate the first time I tried & others I just HAD to plant. I know it's really late, but I think I can get pods off of these by my first frost date- around October 28. Here are the new additions:
 
Small Serrano my parents found in the mountains of Guatemala (How's that for a name?)
Black Coban
Amish Bush
7JPN x TSMB 
Buena Mulata 
PDN
Biquinho Iracema
Orange Bell
Pink Scotch Bonnet
SB7J from surprise yellow pods
Sepia Serpent
Dystopia
Black Bhut
Yolo Wonder
Mustard Habanero
Mustard Scorpion
Bode
Cabai Burong-Urgu
PDN x Naga Suomi
Bhut x Barrackpore
UBSC Brown
7 Pot x Brown Bhut
Dilley Street Tamworks
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion x Primo
Good luck.  You might want to seek help.  Got some crazy stuff you added there last minute.
 
Plants picture perfect ... as a scotch bonnet enthusiast I am watching your bonnets with interest especially the SB x Bonda and your yellow SB7J .... SB Pink is that US sourced seed I have Peach but never been lucky enough to trace Pink
 
Everything looks awesome!
Your grow room is really nicely organised with lots of space for air.
The plants look great, I bet they will do really nicely in your outdoor area.
Good job dude
 
AdamStl said:
That is some good progress on your plants. And may I add that you really have jumped inwith both feet. I have to stagger germination too, as the transplanting becomes quite tedious if you have to do it all at once.

It's always trial and error with growing plants. I couldn't tell you all the things I did to the Turbo Pube plant last year to get it going and producing. Peppers are easy to grow once you figure out what they need.

Glad to see you found out what helped.
 
One day when I got my experience and a bigger house.. I'm going to get myself one of those grows :)
 
jcw10tc said:
Good luck.  You might want to seek help.  Got some crazy stuff you added there last minute.
 
Tell me about it. I know no moderation. :) Yeah, I'm pretty excited about some of these latest additions.

 
Trident chilli said:
Plants picture perfect ... as a scotch bonnet enthusiast I am watching your bonnets with interest especially the SB x Bonda and your yellow SB7J .... SB Pink is that US sourced seed I have Peach but never been lucky enough to trace Pink
Thanks. This will be the 3rd time I've tried to germinate the SB7J Yellow & the 2nd for the pink. Everything around them germinated so I don't have a ton of confidence they'll sprout. I'll let you know. Got the pink from a seed train. I've got 2 seeds left that you'Re welcome to if you want them.

  
PaulS said:
Everything looks awesome!
Your grow room is really nicely organised with lots of space for air.
The plants look great, I bet they will do really nicely in your outdoor area.
Good job dude
Thanks! I've had some tiller issues. Got over half of the garden tilled before breakdown. I may plant some today. I think I've done an OK job hardening off.
 
Obviously a great job, setup, and outdoor grow space. Out of all the habs I've had, mustard is by far my favorite. Definite staple every year. Might not be the largest producer of pods, but they are pretty big and incredibly tasty.
 
coachspencerxc said:
Tell me about it. I know no moderation. :) Yeah, I'm pretty excited about some of these latest additions.
 
Thanks. This will be the 3rd time I've tried to germinate the SB7J Yellow & the 2nd for the pink. Everything around them germinated so I don't have a ton of confidence they'll sprout. I'll let you know. Got the pink from a seed train. I've got 2 seeds left that you'Re welcome to if you want them.
  
Thanks! I've had some tiller issues. Got over half of the garden tilled before breakdown. I may plant some today. I think I've done an OK job hardening off.
Good luck planting out :)
 
Guess who has 18 plants in the ground. Hint: Me. 
 
I'm having some tiller issues. The plan was to till, spread 8 cubic yards of compost into the garden & till again. I've got some lousy clay soil. I tilled about 2/3 of it once before the tiller died & I'm not sure how long its down for. This evening, I just dug big holes, put in 4 shovelfuls of compost (actually a 50/50 compost/topsoil blend) into it & put a plant in. I'll address the soil as a whole when the tiller's fixed. Sheet mulching with grass clippings, shredded leaves & wood chips over time vastly improved the quality of the soil of my last garden. 
 
But anyway, I feel good but somehow nervous about making a small dent in the grow room. FWIW, I planted out: Large Orange Thai, Aji Guyana, Aji Colorado, Tepin x Lemon Drop, Rainforest, Aji Fantasy, Aji Amarillo, MoA Yellow, Peach Hab, Jalapeno, Cinnamon Bell, & Chocolate Fatalii. Doubles of some. 

I would've taken a picture but finished after dark.
 
Last weekend, I planted 18 plants in the garden. Had planned to plant more but just never had time. As soon as I planted, it started raining... and hasn't stopped, practically. 4 inches in the past week. Ugh. I was able to plant 18 tomato plants yesterday before the latest downpour. The plants look OK except 2 with these troubling black spots. Nothing like this before I planted them. In another thread, I was assured what I did was plenty for hardening off. Any idea of what this is? I suspect it may be fertilizer burn. I put in about 1/4 cup of a product called Chickity Doo Doo in each hole. It's a 5-3-2 processed chicken manure product. If that's what my problem is, what is the solution? I used the same process with the tomatoes I planted yesterday. Should I expect the same with those?
 
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Peach Habanero
 
Anybody? Doesn't look any worse today & only on 2 of the 18 plants I planted outside. Tomatoes not fairing too well in wind & rain but most are holding on. Planted 20 of 50ish.
 
coachspencerxc said:
Anybody? Doesn't look any worse today & only on 2 of the 18 plants I planted outside. Tomatoes not fairing too well in wind & rain but most are holding on. Planted 20 of 50ish.
I am no expert, but looks like a disease of some kind to me.  I just ignore a lot of stuff like curled leaves, burnt edges yellowing.  My plants usually pull through that on their own or with a little feeding.  But dark spots like that always worries me.  Someone here will probably chime in to help you more than I can, might do some googling also, lots of pics of various conditions out there.  Might be OK, I find peppers much tougher than tomatoes and other plants.  One thing you might think about doing is pulling the bad leaves.  If its a disease might contain it some, but probably should wait for second opinion from some of the experts on here.
 
jcw10tc said:
I am no expert, but looks like a disease of some kind to me.  I just ignore a lot of stuff like curled leaves, burnt edges yellowing.  My plants usually pull through that on their own or with a little feeding.  But dark spots like that always worries me.  Someone here will probably chime in to help you more than I can, might do some googling also, lots of pics of various conditions out there.  Might be OK, I find peppers much tougher than tomatoes and other plants.  One thing you might think about doing is pulling the bad leaves.  If its a disease might contain it some, but probably should wait for second opinion from some of the experts on here.
From Google images, I was thinking fertilizer burn or bacterial leaf spotting. Am hoping for the human error of fertilizer burn I. The few plants I planted. Easily correctable on the next planting. Bacteria, on the other hand...
 
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