cull baby peppers or not

[sinensis]

you offered to nerd out, and i guess i'm wondering if you have a list of interesting articles, or a preferred botany literature aggregator, or even just a favorite journal that you read or something. i can also go back to cosmetology though, nbd 
 
going back on topic.. in addition to what others have said, in my limited experience, the first flushes of chinense peppers can appear stunted like that. it seems to resolve in subsequent flushes when the plant gets bigger. maybe yours just needs some time to adjust.

 

[Dulac]

What part specifically do you doubt, and how deep into the subject do you want to go? Do you want anecdotal internet evidence, or do you want to subscribe to research gate? (It's a huge subject that requires one to take the long road)
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Wanna nerd out?

Yeah, I'd ideally want good evidence. The part that I'm most curious about is taking the fruit off the plant not diverting energy to growing the other parts. And is this also not true for damaged parts of the plant? I'm scientifically literate and read studies on capsicum genetics, since I work on new varieties as a hobby. I never researched this, so I'm open to hear the opposite what I believed was the case. Could be just another garden myth.

 

[solid7]

Alright, that's fair. I've got a collection of scholarly articles that piece it all together. It wanders all over the place. Covers the gamut of nutrients, plant mechanisms, the role of hormones (which is where most of the triggers come from, not reactivity to nutrient application), etc. We could start a new topic, and just load it with published studies, and poke at the added value, relative to a given situation. Why it may be applicable, or not...

 

[sinensis]

i'd like that. some other forums i'm on (unrelated subjects) have scientific literature threads or discussion areas.

 

[The_NorthEast_ChileMan]

i do, but plant biology is a huge field, and i never know where to start.
i've got libgen and scihub though.

 
Thanks sinensis, I learned about libgen and scihub !
 

 

[sinensis]

google (scholar, patents, ...) + libgen + scihub = ultimate library
it won't hit obscure journals, and it's not a perfect substitute for things like scifinder, but it's pretty damn good for $0
 
aside from copyright concerns (if that's your thing), i do sometimes worry about malware in PDFs. virus scanners aren't reliable, and manually examining javascript objects using tools like peepdf and pdfid is time consuming. i haven't found any bad PDFs yet on libgen though.

 

[sinensis]

Keep us updated if it helps! And some help on the sideways pix:

It is the stored EXIF Data that causes this.

 
technically, it's the exif data that corrects this.
 
many cameras store all images in the native sensor orientation and rely on metadata (exif) to indicate the correct display orientation. the problem is that this metadata is either stripped at some point (sometimes during upload to a website) or just not respected by image viewing software. this includes all desktop web browsers except firefox afaik, and it's implemented in firefox as a css property that the website dev has to use.
 
to the dev(s) of THP, it can be used like this:
 

<img style="image-orientation: from-image" src="foo.jpg">

this blog post explains the issue and this property: 
http://sethfowler.org/blog/2013/09/13/new-in-firefox-26-css-image-orientation/
 
maybe in another 10 years, all browsers will just automatically respect the orientation metadata 
but for now, that's too complicated. it seems the technology "just isn't there yet" 

 

[The_NorthEast_ChileMan]

maybe in another 10 years, all browsers will just automatically respect the orientation metadata 

 
According to our leader:
 

If you edit the pic before uploading it will upload correctly. Editing it "saves" the orientation instead of using native, which would be the way you held the phone. Really it is uploading correctly, but other sites like FB have better software that read the orientation EXIF.

The update we were advised was coming was suppose to fix this.....
 

This will be fixed in the fall however.

But we're still waiting and another April 1st has come and gone!

 

[sinensis]

how did i miss that april 1 post. haha

 

[solid7]

aside from copyright concerns (if that's your thing), i do sometimes worry about malware in PDFs. virus scanners aren't reliable, and manually examining javascript objects using tools like peepdf and pdfid is time consuming. i haven't found any bad PDFs yet on libgen though.

 
I'm far more worried about MS documents, which can be macro enabled.  PDF as a trojan horse.  Is that a thing? (I work in a sort of crossover IT environment, and we give no heed, whatsoever to PDF - they're given a free pass)
 
 
 

maybe in another 10 years, all browsers will just automatically respect the orientation metadata 
but for now, that's too complicated. it seems the technology "just isn't there yet" 

 
You mentioned firefox browser, earlier.  I like Google Chrome for so many things, but just recently, I learned that Firefox has a built-in JSON parser, and it works a charm.  It made me think about switching back to Firefox, for just a second there.  Now I think I gotta have another look.

 

[sinensis]

 
I'm far more worried about MS documents, which can be macro enabled.  PDF as a trojan horse.  Is that a thing? (I work in a sort of crossover IT environment, and we give no heed, whatsoever to PDF - they're given a free pass)

 
yes, malicious PDFs are absolutely a thing. not a new thing or obscure thing either.
https://www.sentinelone.com/blog/malicious-pdfs-revealing-techniques-behind-attacks/
 
if you're paranoid, you should use utilities like peepdf, pdfid, and pdf-parser. you can use a kali linux vm or something for convenience, as these utilities are pre-installed.
https://tools.kali.org/tools-listing
 
the general process is to see what kinds of objects are present in the PDF and then if there are suspicious ones (like javascript objects), dump them and prettify/deobfuscate them. even if you're not a security researcher, you can probably tell if it looks suspicious or not. if so, delete those objects and then try using the PDF in a sandboxed environment or a VM. if the PDF seems to look and work OK, then hopefully you've sanitized it, and you didn't get rid of anything benign and important.
 
there's lots of youtube videos and blog posts about PDF forensics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GERm5WRz1Gc

 

[Dulac]

 
I'm far more worried about MS documents, which can be macro enabled.  PDF as a trojan horse.  Is that a thing? (I work in a sort of crossover IT environment, and we give no heed, whatsoever to PDF - they're given a free pass)
 
 
 
 
You mentioned firefox browser, earlier.  I like Google Chrome for so many things, but just recently, I learned that Firefox has a built-in JSON parser, and it works a charm.  It made me think about switching back to Firefox, for just a second there.  Now I think I gotta have another look.

 
I could build one for Chrome if needed. JSON parsing is built into JS, and I'm a JS dev. Is it parsing JSON to sanitize any malicious code? I'm on Ubuntu, so not concerned with viruses.