Haha, Megs caught me before my final edit.
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Do SHUs have a flavor?
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Bwahahahahahahaha..... 
[sub][sub]What does time taste like?[/sub][/sub]
[sub][sub]The only people saying things like that are the people are you, scovie and salsa lady the original poster said "taste begins at 100,000 Scoville." Which is akin to saying it doesn't get warm until it is 70 degrees or it isn't a marathon until 26 miles or a yard until 3feet. You guys are creating strawmen . You are only arguing with statements you made up. [/sub][/sub]
[sub][sub]You guys are saying things like "you can't taste a scoville" Which is not what the original poster said.[/sub][/sub]
[sub][sub]Do you think the fact that you have to make up stuff is indicative of how strong your stance is?[/sub][/sub]
[sub][sub]The only people saying things like that are the people are you, scovie and salsa lady the original poster said "taste begins at 100,000 Scoville." Which is akin to saying it doesn't get warm until it is 70 degrees or it isn't a marathon until 26 miles or a yard until 3feet. You guys are creating strawmen . You are only arguing with statements you made up. [/sub][/sub]
[sub][sub]You guys are saying things like "you can't taste a scoville" Which is not what the original poster said.[/sub][/sub]
[sub][sub]Do you think the fact that you have to make up stuff is indicative of how strong your stance is?[/sub][/sub]
We are certainly beating a dead horse here.
This thread should be locked.
This thread should be locked.
That's fine but I'm going to start a thread on how sum o my bits is forum nazi
Powerful words there, Frosty. You SURE you want to go there?
capaicin to SHU
You can taste gasoline but you can't taste horsepower.
It's fine that this was inpsired by a sig but let's make sure we are not attacking that sig, that user can state whatever he/she wants, in fact I've seen a lot of hot sauces that say stuff like "Sweet Heat" and other creative takes on heat that may or may not be scientifically accurate.
He is saying he likes the hotter sauces in a creative way.
I get it! Who knew a creative sig would be controversial? Please move on.
You can taste gasoline but you can't taste horsepower.
It's fine that this was inpsired by a sig but let's make sure we are not attacking that sig, that user can state whatever he/she wants, in fact I've seen a lot of hot sauces that say stuff like "Sweet Heat" and other creative takes on heat that may or may not be scientifically accurate.
He is saying he likes the hotter sauces in a creative way.
I get it! Who knew a creative sig would be controversial? Please move on.
The point of my post. If you read it, I'm on both sides. "Taste" can be a literal translation, or a subjective translation that deals with personal preference. I applaud his use of words. I was trying to tilt the conversation.
I had said this earlier.....his opinion, who cares/
Maybe this will help?
I fail to see where the "heat" taste buds are, but if capsaicin is an alkaloid, then it would taste bitter, and therefore would have a perceivable "flavor".
I've had pure evil. To me it didn't "taste" like anything, but it was hot as hell. But I would have perceived a similar sensation if I had dropped it in my eye, got some up my nose, and/or rubbed it in certain other areas of my body. And sometimes I feel it upon bowel evacuation. I can't say that about ANYTHING else that "has a taste/ flavor". Therefore, to me, capsaicin only is perceived as a sensation... not a taste/flavor.
Now, for sake of argument, the word "taste" has a double meaning... and that MIGHT be where this discussion is butting heads. For example, I could walk into your house, assess your furniture, decor, etc., and based upon my own personal preferences make a judgement on whether or not you have good "taste".
But I would agree that SHU is a unit of measurement, and it's hard to taste that. What flavor does time have?
I think the capsicum tasting tastebuds are the unlabeled part of the tongue, right in the middle...lol
Very interesting, I would say that chemical heat is a lot different from physical heat like in scalding water although the water may taste of some chemicals that are in it, Flavoroids can be tricky in how they can be perceived as smell can change how we perceive flavor. Close your eyes and block of the nose, so you have no way to tell just what it is that you are tasting and "Bam" that pepper that you just bit into could taste like just about anything, except your perception of the chemical burning thats going on in your mouth.
But I can't see how you can perceive a measurement as a taste or even if some one says that he can't taste anything pepper wise unless its over 100,000 Shu's as my taste buds quit working after I bite into anything that has SHU. hotter than that. HA! Really people ! There is more squabbling going on here than a house with 3 preteen girls fighting over the same boy.
But I can't see how you can perceive a measurement as a taste or even if some one says that he can't taste anything pepper wise unless its over 100,000 Shu's as my taste buds quit working after I bite into anything that has SHU. hotter than that. HA! Really people ! There is more squabbling going on here than a house with 3 preteen girls fighting over the same boy.
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Wildseed, I think it's been acknowledged that we're going to agree to disagree whether capsaicin has a taste or not. If people realize the difference of a unit of measure -v- a sense, then I guess the thread has accomplished the goal of creating awareness.
There's a lot of 'assumption' in a lot of the words used relating to chilesm and the chile industry. One Big one that came up recently is "mash". Mash has kind of gotten associated with a fermented concoction of chiles and any number of other things, when in fact that is not accurate. I was guilty of using mash incorrectly. Technically a mash is a ground up mixture of "whatever" whether chile related or not. Fermentation has nothing to do with it. There are some other "assumed" meanings around extracts, etc...
There's a lot of 'assumption' in a lot of the words used relating to chilesm and the chile industry. One Big one that came up recently is "mash". Mash has kind of gotten associated with a fermented concoction of chiles and any number of other things, when in fact that is not accurate. I was guilty of using mash incorrectly. Technically a mash is a ground up mixture of "whatever" whether chile related or not. Fermentation has nothing to do with it. There are some other "assumed" meanings around extracts, etc...
My ¢3rd 
SHU:
Scoville:
Wilbur Lincoln Scoville was an American pharmacist and is best known for his creation of "The Scoville Organoleptic Test", now standardized as the Scoville scale. Wikipedia
Heat:
Noun
The quality of being hot; high temperature: "it is sensitive to both heat and cold".
Unit:
Noun
An individual thing or person regarded as single and complete, esp. for purposes of calculation: "the family unit".
Each of the individuals or collocations into which a complex whole may be divided: "large areas of land made up of smaller units".
SHU:
Scoville:
Wilbur Lincoln Scoville was an American pharmacist and is best known for his creation of "The Scoville Organoleptic Test", now standardized as the Scoville scale. Wikipedia
Heat:
Noun
The quality of being hot; high temperature: "it is sensitive to both heat and cold".
Unit:
Noun
An individual thing or person regarded as single and complete, esp. for purposes of calculation: "the family unit".
Each of the individuals or collocations into which a complex whole may be divided: "large areas of land made up of smaller units".
I will use my 16 year old boy as an example. He loves habaneros because he gets the "heat" (which he likes), but not as much of the "pepper taste" (which he dislikes)......so according to his eating habits, capsicum is the hot part, but isn't a flavor, since the flavor is the part he doesn't like.
This is like the game of telephone... okay, CAPSICUM has flavor because CAPSICUM is the pepper, you mean CAPSAICIN, and the original post is about SHU.
This makes no sense anymore. Please stop the madness.
This is like the game of telephone... okay, CAPSICUM has flavor because CAPSICUM is the pepper, you mean CAPSAICIN, and the original post is about SHU.
This makes no sense anymore. Please stop the madness.
Hahahaha, ok fine, i'll just say he loves habaneros, but hates jalapenos and bell peppers
I do hope to grow some of those this year, and have a good assortment of other tastier peppers started already, so I figure he will love the taste of the SHU's in at least some of them...lol....
Capsaicin has a flavor. That flavor is "Ow!"
everything else is semantics.
everything else is semantics.