DocNrock's 2013 Glog - 7/11/13

My 2013 grow officially began 10/14/2012, when seeds hit soil. After seeing Fernando (SocalChilehead) growing in his greenhouse "sanctuary" and KiNGDeNNiZ continuing to start new growth in his AeroGarden, as well as the community HP22B grow thread already being 8 pages, I broke down and started my 2013 grow. I was going to limit it to 50 varieties, but that ended up being 64, 77 including the plants I want to save from 2012. If some varieties don't pop or I end up losing some along the way, I might still be down to 50 (or less!) in no time. The grow list with pop dates is at the bottom of this post.

Since I had plenty of seeds I wanted to try an experiment. Which is better for germination, soil or Rapid Rooters? I have two mini-greenhouses with 36 soil cups each, and one mini-greenhouse with a 72 cell insert loaded with Rapid Rooters. All seeds were soaked overnight in water that had been boiled and cooled and contained a dilution of brewed chamomile tea and H2O2. The Rapid Rooters and soil were both moistened with the same mix. The soil is Sungro Sunshine mix #1 amended lightly with Ancient Forest and worm castings. Wondering if the organisms in the amendments might help break down the seed coat. Each cell contains about five seeds. This will force me to cull the weaklings, as opposed to trying to save them, hahaha! At most I will end up with two seedlings for each variety. If both survive, I can try to gift one of the two. I am thinking that some varieties may germinate better in soil, some better in the Rapid Rooters, and for some it may not make a difference. I read somewhere that kelp solutions are rich in growth hormones. Has anyone added a light kelp solution dilution to their germination setup? I was thinking of adding a couple of drops to each Rapid Rooter cell. Fert-wise, the kelp solutions are very, very weak. I doubt it would do any harm. Has anyone ever tried the kelp? I have not, but might try it later on anything that seems stubborn to sprout.

I am hoping these guys are all budded up come springtime, and ready for an early harvest. Since my indoor space is limited, I am giving serious consideration to building a small greenhouse in the backyard and putting in a couple of space heaters for the night time. I decided against a raised bed, and will probably go with 5 gallon Root Pouches for the larger plants. Some of the annuums and plants I'm as yet unsure of I will grow in 2 gallon pots. If I end up liking them, I can always up-pot them.

Getting organized:

Man, I hope I didn't mix any of these up! 64 cups to keep straight is a far cry from 3. It will be 6 months until I know for sure!:

Rapid Rooters:

Soil:

Let the waiting game begin!:

Also, in case anyone is interested, the white plastic labelling tags are available at Discount Hydroponics, $2.95/100! Cheaper than popsickle sticks!

Regarding the plants I already have, I am going to try to start cuttings off most of them in the event the plants don't make it over the winter. I won't need to start those from seed, although there are four varieties (Douglah, Fatalii, Barrackpore and Yellow Bhut) I am starting from seed, as well.

Question: When we start a new grow season, is it typical to just add to one's glog thread, or is it appropriate to start a new thread for the new grow year?

Anyway, happy growing to you all and thanks for looking. I'm hoping all the lessons I learned this year will help me to make this grow much more successful!

GROW LIST: I will try to edit in pop dates for both soil and Rapid Rooters. The Rapid Rooters might get earlier pop dates since I can see the rootlets before hooks form.

Sown seeds (65):

Trinidad Scorpion (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR)
HP22B (Pepper Joe) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Primo (Primo) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Billy Boy Jonah (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Congo Gigantic (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
7 Pot Barrackpore (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (RR)
Dorset Naga (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Naga Morich (Biscgolf - pods) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Bhut Jolokia (JoynersHotPeppers)
Red Rocoto (SocalChilihead) 10/22/12 (RR)
Malawi Peppadew (Refiningfirechiles) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Trinidad PI281317 (Pepperlover) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Anaheim (Pepperlover - gift)
7 Pot Chiguanas (Silver Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Devil's Tongue (Pepperlover - gift) 10/28/12 (RR)
Butch T (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR)
7 Pot Jonah (Pepperlover - pods) 10/27/12 (RR)
7 Pot Burgundy (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Infinity 10/20/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
Yellow Moruga (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/23/12 (RR)
Yellow Brain (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Yellow Bhut Jolokia (Biscgolf) 10/26/12 (soil)
Fatalii (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR),10/28/12 (soil)
7 Pot Yellow (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Peach Bhut (AJIJOE) 10/28/12 (RR)
Beni Highland (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Morova (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
7 Pot Orange (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
Golden Cayenne (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Yellow Scotch Bonnet (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Brown (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (soil)
Douglah (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (soil)
Black Habanero (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Chocolate Scorpion (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
Douglah x Chocolate Scorpion F4 (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Black Naga (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (soil)
Pasilla Bajio (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/27/12 (RR)
Long Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/24/12 (RR)
Black Stinger (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
7 Pot White (Pepperlover) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Giant White Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
White Bullet Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
White Devil's Tongue (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/28/12 (RR)
Serrano (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/19/12 (soil) ***FIRST SOIL***
Jalapeno (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Red Bell (store bought pepper) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Andy F1 Gochu (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL*** 10/23/12 (soil)
Korean Winner Hybrid (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL***
Pimenta de Neyde (SocalChilehead) 10/28/12 (RR)
Trinidad Scorpion Green (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR)
Most Prolific C.chacoense (Pepperlover - gift) 10/23/12 (RR)
Royal Black (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Assam (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Scorpion "FG" (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Australian Lantern Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/26/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Aji Yellow (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Aji Omnicolor (OROZCONLECHE) 10/19/12 (RR)
Not-Trinidad Scorpion (long yellow pod from Arboretum, KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Mystery Chocolate Mix (Silver_Surfer) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Congo (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Peach Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Yellow Hablokia (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Sown 10/20/12
Yellow Bell (store-bought pepper) 10/23/12 (RR)
Sown 10/28/12
Chocolate Bell (Refiningfirechiles)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Douglah (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter (Refiningfirechiles)
Yellow Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Chocolate Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Pineapple (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Dulce 1 (Tradewinds)
Datil (Tradewinds)
Goat's Horn (Tradewinds)
NuMex Big Jim (Tradewinds)
Paprika (Tradewinds)
Brain Strain 7 (PepperRidge)


What I hope to save from my current grow, either whole plants or clones (13):

Carribean Red (local nursery)
Aji Panca (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter Pepper (Refiningfirechiles)
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom (Refiningfirechiles)
Moruga (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Thai Dragon (North Park Produce)
Chenzo (North Park Produce)
Red Brain Strain (Baker's Peppers - pods)
Chinese 5-color (Orozconleche)
Aji Dulce (Orozconleche)
Datil (Orozconleche)
Bonnie "World's Hottest Hab" (Fatalii?) (Home Depot)

I'm going to do my best to keep one of each alive, but with 77 total, I might be lucky if a few croak!

 

[Stefan_W]

Ok, I'll put them in tonight and see how it goes on this end. Maybe the seedling look weak because the plants are more viney than other pepper varieties? Just a guess and speaking from no experience.

 

[GA Growhead]

I hope your wht devil germ. If not, and i get any, i will send you a plant/cutting. Hoping for the best. Also doing the wild brazil. They sound tasty!
Starting my first round of seeds today!
Your temps are a bit crazy. Last night was 65°F here, 30°F there when i looked. Usually would be the other way around. Glad you will be back to norm soon.
Everything is looking amazing. Can't wating to see everything in their final pots cover in pods. You are going to have small trees by then!

 

[915river]

Nice looking plants, happy growing season

 

[KiNGDeNNiZ]

hey Doc.. hows your plants hanging in the outside... did you manage to move them inside?? hows the greenhouse

frost got a couple of my INGROUND OWs...

 

[DocNrock]

Never got around to doing my grow bag, Root Pouch, Wally bag comparisons today. Another time.

Thanks for stopping in, guys.

Ok, I'll put them in tonight and see how it goes on this end. Maybe the seedling look weak because the plants are more viney than other pepper varieties? Just a guess and speaking from no experience.

Ha! I'd even take viney. The biggest one is about an inch tall and has two sets of leaves. It popped almost two months ago.

I hope your wht devil germ. If not, and i get any, i will send you a plant/cutting. Hoping for the best. Also doing the wild brazil. They sound tasty!
Starting my first round of seeds today!
Your temps are a bit crazy. Last night was 65°F here, 30°F there when i looked. Usually would be the other way around. Glad you will be back to norm soon.
Everything is looking amazing. Can't wating to see everything in their final pots cover in pods. You are going to have small trees by then!

Dude, that's such an awesome thought, but you don't need to do that. I have PLENTY of plants to keep me busy, and a good number of white varieties that are doing fine. Thank you anyway, though. Funny, I had seeds for the Wild Brazil from a surprise package of seeds I bought from Ajijoe. I didn't know much about it when I chose my grow for this year so they got passed over. Anyway, reading PaulG's glog, he and I think Trippa were talking about it in a good way. I remembered I had seeds for it, so it got sowed. Looking forward to them. Thanks for stopping in.

Nice looking plants, happy growing season

Thanks Vlad, and thanks for stopping in. I checked out your glog. You have some of the most unique varieties there are. And your crosses are pretty neat. I scored some of your Armageddon F-2 seeds in a trade with Jamison. Looking forward to growing them out.

hey Doc.. hows your plants hanging in the outside... did you manage to move them inside?? hows the greenhouse

frost got a couple of my INGROUND OWs...

See towards the end of post #268 on the last page.

 

[DocNrock]

The two Red Rocotos that did pop have made very slow growing, weak-looking seedlings. The Giant Mexican Rocoto finally showed signs of life in one cell, but the two that had rootlets seem to have stalled.

Here is one of the two Red Rocotos. This one is a few weeks old. The one in the greenhouse is not much bigger and is about a month older.

I got excited when I saw rootlets forming in the Giant Mexican Rocoto cell, but they seem to have stalled. They have looked like this for about two weeks.

Anyway, like I said, I will give the pubes one last chance. I have seeds on the way from a different vendor, so we'll see!

 

[Melissa77754]

Looking good Doc! I have that same greenhouse, does a great job of sheltering from the cold! Best of luck to you this year!

 

[DocNrock]

Looking good Doc! I have that same greenhouse, does a great job of sheltering from the cold! Best of luck to you this year!

Thanks, and thanks for stopping in. This little greenhouse is da bomb! Not only is it doing a great job sheltering the little guys from the elements, but it's going to make a great garden storage shed come summertime!

 

[PaulG]

Okay we need to start a 6x8 greenhouse club!

I think you'll like the Wild Brazil. Cool plant and nice heat for little pods.
Almost as good as the Wild Tepins!

 

[DocNrock]

Okay we need to start a 6x8 greenhouse club!

I think you'll like the Wild Brazil. Cool plant and nice heat for little pods.
Almost as good as the Wild Tepins!

OK Paul, you are the founding member! I count four of us that I know of, but you probably know of more.

Looking forward to the Wild Brazil.

 

[Stefan_W]

It is hard to tell for sure, but does the giant mexican rocoto look like it may be water logged to you? Just trying to guess at why it stalled out like that.

 

[DocNrock]

It is hard to tell for sure, but does the giant mexican rocoto look like it may be water logged to you? Just trying to guess at why it stalled out like that.

Thanks for looking, but definitely not water-logged. You may have noticed, it's virtually impossible to overwater Rapid Rooters since they drain so well.

 

[Stefan_W]

Yeah, it was just a wild guess based on the yellowish tinge.

 

[WalkGood]

I’ve fallen a bit behind both in my garden and reading up, so apologies for no recent look but was out of town and away from da net … Wow Doc Brent very nice updates! From the pics it seems the plants are taking over dat greenhouse, how do you get around in that jungle … everything’s looking beautiful keep up the great work.

 

[BakersPeppers]

Lookin good Doc

 

[PeriPeri]

Awsome! Great looking seedlings!

 

[RocketMan]

Babies are looking good and growing nicely there Doc.

 

[DocNrock]

Yeah, it was just a wild guess based on the yellowish tinge.

They still look the same. I think they're officially RIP. Got some seeds for Red, Orange, and Yellow Rocoto in the mail yesterday, so I'll give the pubes one last go. After this, it would be a bit late for the year. It might already be.

I’ve fallen a bit behind both in my garden and reading up, so apologies for no recent look but was out of town and away from da net … Wow Doc Brent very nice updates! From the pics it seems the plants are taking over dat greenhouse, how do you get around in that jungle … everything’s looking beautiful keep up the great work.

Lookin good Doc

Awsome! Great looking seedlings!

Babies are looking good and growing nicely there Doc.

Thanks guys, and thanks for stopping in!

 

[Jamison]

Wow man. This Glog is gonna be 100 pages by the end of the year!! Had to get caught up, been busy working, and when I wasn't working I was lazy! Things a poppin and plants a growing. Good job Doc!

 

[DocNrock]

Wow man. This Glog is gonna be 100 pages by the end of the year!! Had to get caught up, been busy working, and when I wasn't working I was lazy! Things a poppin and plants a growing. Good job Doc!

Thanks for stopping in, Jamison. You actually caught up on 15 pages! You're a glutton for punishment, my friend. Anyway, thanks for looking and looking forward to following your grow, as well. Things here are on cruise control, for the time being.