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DocNrock's 2013 Glog - 7/11/13

My 2013 grow officially began 10/14/2012, when seeds hit soil. After seeing Fernando (SocalChilehead) growing in his greenhouse "sanctuary" and KiNGDeNNiZ continuing to start new growth in his AeroGarden, as well as the community HP22B grow thread already being 8 pages, I broke down and started my 2013 grow. I was going to limit it to 50 varieties, but that ended up being 64, 77 including the plants I want to save from 2012. If some varieties don't pop or I end up losing some along the way, I might still be down to 50 (or less!) in no time. The grow list with pop dates is at the bottom of this post.

Since I had plenty of seeds I wanted to try an experiment. Which is better for germination, soil or Rapid Rooters? I have two mini-greenhouses with 36 soil cups each, and one mini-greenhouse with a 72 cell insert loaded with Rapid Rooters. All seeds were soaked overnight in water that had been boiled and cooled and contained a dilution of brewed chamomile tea and H2O2. The Rapid Rooters and soil were both moistened with the same mix. The soil is Sungro Sunshine mix #1 amended lightly with Ancient Forest and worm castings. Wondering if the organisms in the amendments might help break down the seed coat. Each cell contains about five seeds. This will force me to cull the weaklings, as opposed to trying to save them, hahaha! At most I will end up with two seedlings for each variety. If both survive, I can try to gift one of the two. I am thinking that some varieties may germinate better in soil, some better in the Rapid Rooters, and for some it may not make a difference. I read somewhere that kelp solutions are rich in growth hormones. Has anyone added a light kelp solution dilution to their germination setup? I was thinking of adding a couple of drops to each Rapid Rooter cell. Fert-wise, the kelp solutions are very, very weak. I doubt it would do any harm. Has anyone ever tried the kelp? I have not, but might try it later on anything that seems stubborn to sprout.

I am hoping these guys are all budded up come springtime, and ready for an early harvest. Since my indoor space is limited, I am giving serious consideration to building a small greenhouse in the backyard and putting in a couple of space heaters for the night time. I decided against a raised bed, and will probably go with 5 gallon Root Pouches for the larger plants. Some of the annuums and plants I'm as yet unsure of I will grow in 2 gallon pots. If I end up liking them, I can always up-pot them.

Getting organized:

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Man, I hope I didn't mix any of these up! 64 cups to keep straight is a far cry from 3. It will be 6 months until I know for sure!:

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Rapid Rooters:

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Soil:

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Let the waiting game begin!:

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Also, in case anyone is interested, the white plastic labelling tags are available at Discount Hydroponics, $2.95/100! Cheaper than popsickle sticks!

Regarding the plants I already have, I am going to try to start cuttings off most of them in the event the plants don't make it over the winter. I won't need to start those from seed, although there are four varieties (Douglah, Fatalii, Barrackpore and Yellow Bhut) I am starting from seed, as well.

Question: When we start a new grow season, is it typical to just add to one's glog thread, or is it appropriate to start a new thread for the new grow year?

Anyway, happy growing to you all and thanks for looking. I'm hoping all the lessons I learned this year will help me to make this grow much more successful!

GROW LIST: I will try to edit in pop dates for both soil and Rapid Rooters. The Rapid Rooters might get earlier pop dates since I can see the rootlets before hooks form.

Sown seeds (65):

Trinidad Scorpion (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR)
HP22B (Pepper Joe) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Primo (Primo) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Billy Boy Jonah (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Congo Gigantic (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
7 Pot Barrackpore (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (RR)
Dorset Naga (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Naga Morich (Biscgolf - pods) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Bhut Jolokia (JoynersHotPeppers)
Red Rocoto (SocalChilihead) 10/22/12 (RR)
Malawi Peppadew (Refiningfirechiles) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Trinidad PI281317 (Pepperlover) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Anaheim (Pepperlover - gift)
7 Pot Chiguanas (Silver Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Devil's Tongue (Pepperlover - gift) 10/28/12 (RR)
Butch T (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR)
7 Pot Jonah (Pepperlover - pods) 10/27/12 (RR)
7 Pot Burgundy (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Infinity 10/20/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
Yellow Moruga (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/23/12 (RR)
Yellow Brain (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Yellow Bhut Jolokia (Biscgolf) 10/26/12 (soil)
Fatalii (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR),10/28/12 (soil)
7 Pot Yellow (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Peach Bhut (AJIJOE) 10/28/12 (RR)
Beni Highland (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Morova (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
7 Pot Orange (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
Golden Cayenne (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Yellow Scotch Bonnet (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Brown (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (soil)
Douglah (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (soil)
Black Habanero (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Chocolate Scorpion (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
Douglah x Chocolate Scorpion F4 (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Black Naga (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (soil)
Pasilla Bajio (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/27/12 (RR)
Long Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/24/12 (RR)
Black Stinger (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
7 Pot White (Pepperlover) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Giant White Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
White Bullet Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
White Devil's Tongue (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/28/12 (RR)
Serrano (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/19/12 (soil) ***FIRST SOIL***
Jalapeno (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Red Bell (store bought pepper) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Andy F1 Gochu (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL*** 10/23/12 (soil)
Korean Winner Hybrid (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL***
Pimenta de Neyde (SocalChilehead) 10/28/12 (RR)
Trinidad Scorpion Green (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR)
Most Prolific C.chacoense (Pepperlover - gift) 10/23/12 (RR)
Royal Black (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Assam (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Scorpion "FG" (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Australian Lantern Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/26/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Aji Yellow (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Aji Omnicolor (OROZCONLECHE) 10/19/12 (RR)
Not-Trinidad Scorpion (long yellow pod from Arboretum, KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Mystery Chocolate Mix (Silver_Surfer) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Congo (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Peach Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Yellow Hablokia (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Sown 10/20/12
Yellow Bell (store-bought pepper) 10/23/12 (RR)
Sown 10/28/12
Chocolate Bell (Refiningfirechiles)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Douglah (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter (Refiningfirechiles)
Yellow Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Chocolate Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Pineapple (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Dulce 1 (Tradewinds)
Datil (Tradewinds)
Goat's Horn (Tradewinds)
NuMex Big Jim (Tradewinds)
Paprika (Tradewinds)
Brain Strain 7 (PepperRidge)


What I hope to save from my current grow, either whole plants or clones (13):

Carribean Red (local nursery)
Aji Panca (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter Pepper (Refiningfirechiles)
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom (Refiningfirechiles)
Moruga (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Thai Dragon (North Park Produce)
Chenzo (North Park Produce)
Red Brain Strain (Baker's Peppers - pods)
Chinese 5-color (Orozconleche)
Aji Dulce (Orozconleche)
Datil (Orozconleche)
Bonnie "World's Hottest Hab" (Fatalii?) (Home Depot)

I'm going to do my best to keep one of each alive, but with 77 total, I might be lucky if a few croak!
 
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Sorry to hear about the aphids, they really suck as far as pests go. I hope you are able to clear them out before the plant starts to really get going.
 
buy some saf-t-side!


it is a very weak spray that you can use like every other day if need be.look it up and order some. iits not going to solve your problems but its great for inbetween other treatments. see here in florida you have to be a multi spray master cause there isnt a day go by that some plant dont have something.
 
Hey DocNrock. Haven't read the full posts, but from what I gather you have an aphid problem. Not an expert, but Neem oil is eco friendly and works a treat. When I get an aphid infestation and the planting is contained, spraying ant poison around the pot or planter can also avoid future break outs in my experience - Good Luck!
 
romy6 said:
Doc,here is a cheap and easy way to get rid of bacterial leaf spot. Removed infected leaves, then spray with half water half skim milk. May have to do several application though.
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Stefan_W said:
Sorry to hear about the aphids, they really suck as far as pests go. I hope you are able to clear them out before the plant starts to really get going.
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sicman said:
buy some saf-t-side!


it is a very weak spray that you can use like every other day if need be.look it up and order some. iits not going to solve your problems but its great for inbetween other treatments. see here in florida you have to be a multi spray master cause there isnt a day go by that some plant dont have something.
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PeriPeri said:
Hey DocNrock. Haven't read the full posts, but from what I gather you have an aphid problem. Not an expert, but Neem oil is eco friendly and works a treat. When I get an aphid infestation and the planting is contained, spraying ant poison around the pot or planter can also avoid future break outs in my experience - Good Luck!
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Thanks, guys. All good suggestions. I'll give this some thought and report back.
 
It takes time to rid the aphids, (best tool) the magnifying glass. (best advice) inspect often. I had them one year, don't remember what I sprayed at the time but I do remember seeing the white eggs in groups under the leaves. I'd pour rubbing alcohol in a bowl and while wearing latex gloves I'd dip my fingers in the solution any smear off the eggs. The leaves would get misted off with water and the step would be repeated every few days until no sign of eggs appeared. Although its not an organic process, it worked. I don't recommend spraying and chemicals on the plants during the early part of the light cycle indoors. When spraying any type of ferts on the leaves I'll shut the lights down for a couple hrs to let the substance dry. Its very easy to burn the tender new shoots if not careful.
 
PIC 1 said:
It takes time to rid the aphids, (best tool) the magnifying glass. (best advice) inspect often. I had them one year, don't remember what I sprayed at the time but I do remember seeing the white eggs in groups under the leaves. I'd pour rubbing alcohol in a bowl and while wearing latex gloves I'd dip my fingers in the solution any smear off the eggs. The leaves would get misted off with water and the step would be repeated every few days until no sign of eggs appeared. Although its not an organic process, it worked. I don't recommend spraying and chemicals on the plants during the early part of the light cycle indoors. When spraying any type of ferts on the leaves I'll shut the lights down for a couple hrs to let the substance dry. Its very easy to burn the tender new shoots if not careful.
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So far, so good. Just checked every plant in the greenhouse and I don't see any more aphids (for now). So, at GA Growhead's request, I took a few pics of some of the early pods.

Yellow Bell:

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Serrano (Pepper Joe freebie):

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Pasilla Bajio (RFC):

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Korean Winner Pod (Stickman):

KWpods.jpg


Jalapenos (PepperJoe freebie):

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Golden Cayennes (SocalChilehead):

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Andy F1 Hybrid Gochu (Stickman):

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And also, one of my clones is flowering, and it's only about 4" tall above the soil line. Chinese 5 Color:

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I have a couple of more pod pics if I can get a bump. ;)
 
scratchzilla said:
Cmon guys somebody bump!
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Thanks Scratchzilla, for both the bump and for stopping in!

Here are some pods from some plants I started from seed between July and September. Most are small, but I've grown them in 1.5 or 2 gallon pots. I think I'll up-pot them with 5 gallon or larger pots for the upcoming year.

Not-Datil (OROZCONLECHE):

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Chinese 5-Color (OROZCONLECHE):

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Anaheim:

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And finally, a dinky little Brain Strain, or Moruga (Baker's Peppers):

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That's all I've got today. My Caribbean Red clone also has a flower on it, but I couldn't get a very good shot of it. I guess it's camera shy. ;)

Hope everyone is well!

Brent
 
That yellow cayenne is going off!
Plants are looking amazing!
You are so far ahead it's crazy. Plants will be trees by july.
Hope you have an eight foot ladder.
Thanks for the update.
 
Looks great. And it's nice that Pepper Joe gives freebies. Glad to see your growing some. It's the least a seed provider/seller can do when most of us give so freely.
 
WalkGood said:
Very nice Brent! Plants look great :)
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Thanks Ramon. Can't wait until the end of February to put them outside.
GA Growhead said:
That yellow cayenne is going off!
Plants are looking amazing!
You are so far ahead it's crazy. Plants will be trees by july.
Hope you have an eight foot ladder.
Thanks for the update.
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My pleasure, Jason. Thanks for the interest. I indeed have an 8' ladder, but ummm...you and I both know I won't need it for peppers. ;) Seriously though, I am very pleased with how things are coming along here.
kiddc said:
thats one of the huge-st Anaheims i have ever seen.
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Thanks. I got the seed from a rather large store bought Anaheim; the only red one in the bin. I got one seedling out of 10 seeds I sowed and this is what grew. I think I'll up-pot it and see what it does this season. ;)
Sanarda said:
Looks great. And it's nice that Pepper Joe gives freebies. Glad to see your growing some. It's the least a seed provider/seller can do when most of us give so freely.
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Thanks Pia, and thanks for stopping in. It's kind of funny. I've bought from quite a few sellers. Some do not give freebies (RFC, Peppergirl.com), some give awesome freebies (Pepperlover.com, Junglerain.com) and Pepper Joe gives generic Jalapenos and Serranos. I hadn't planned on growing either variety, but I hated to see the seed go to waste, so here they are. I suppose it is nice that he includes something extra. But you are right, most of us are willing to give and share freely, even for varieties like the Sepia Serpent. How is that for a neutral response? (LOL). ;)
SocalChilehead said:
Wow your plants are really taking off great to see pods through the winter.
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I know you've been hella busy Fernando. Thanks for taking the time to catch up here. Best wishes and good luck, my friend. I have a feeling your Golden Cayenne is going to keep me rolling in pods all season. Probably will make an awesome powder. I'm thinking pizza. ;)
 
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