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Hobby Sauce Maker arrested

salsalady

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http://www.thevindicator.com/anahuac_progress/news/article_1ba39950-a47d-11e3-8d85-0019bb2963f4.html
 
"Anahuac man pleads guilty to abuse of step son -gets 75 years
Posted: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:44 am
 
A Chambers County man will likely spend the rest of his life in prison for abusing his step son.
Danny Ray Fannin Sr., 43 of Anahuac, plead guilty to injury to a child. After hearing evidence
presented by the State, Chambers County District Judge Randy McDonald sentenced Fannin to 75
years in prison.
 
Fannin was also under indictment for two counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child, indecency
with a child and witness tampering. As part of the plea agreement, those charges were dropped, but
were taken into consideration in the sentencing.
 
Allegations of child abuse surfaced in June of 2013. When authorities investigated these claims, they were shocked at the conditions in which the child was forced to live. Urine and feces littered the
house, along with the rotting bodies of a rat and what was believed to be a cat.  Plants from outside the house were growing into it through broken windows. Fannin’s wife, Catherine Fannin, was also charged with injury to a child. In exchange for her testimony against her husband, she was given a probated sentence. Catherine Fannin testified that her husband shot out the windows of the
house and killed animals inside the house.
 
Rotten food was found inside a freezer that no longer worked. A used condom was also found in one of the bedrooms.
 
“The District Attorney’s Office is pleased with the outcome and believe that justice was served,”
Chambers County District Attorney Cheryl Swope Lieck said.  “Mr. Fannin has a long history of criminal behavior, and we are glad to finally put this case to rest. I am proud of all of the hard work that went into this case, and I commend Assistant District Attorney
Kathy Esquivel on a job well done.” "
 
 
 
 
Danny Fannin was a hobby sauce maker who sold sauces, mostly through Facebook groups.  Several reviewers gave him raving reviews and urged people to buy his sauces, knowing full well they were not legal or licensed.   
edit- the sauce was called Danny Fannin's Extreme Heat and Spiced Fruits.
edit- another sauce sold under Texas Love Hot Sauce #(6 or whatever batch#)
 
Caveat Emptor, I hope no one here got any.
 
The real horror is what that little boy was living in.  
 
So just because he is was a hobby sauce maker that means all others are going to be just as bad?
 
salsalady said:
Danny Fannin was a hobby sauce maker who sold sauces, mostly through Facebook groups.  Several reviewers gave him raving reviews and urged people to buy his sauces, knowing full well they were not legal or licensed.  
 
 
 
 
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salsalady said:
Danny Fannin was a hobby sauce maker who sold sauces, mostly through Facebook groups.  Several reviewers gave him raving reviews and urged people to buy his sauces, knowing full well they were not legal or licensed.  
 
 
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Where'd that part come from? It's not part of the linked story.
 
The point is he was selling sauces and reviewers were promoting the sale of those inlicensed sauces.  Tons of people trade or give away sauces.  And everyone pretty well understands that if you accept a hobby sauce, it's at your own risk. 
 
mx5- the linked story is in "quotes". the rest of the comments are mine.  I edited the post, the story is in italics.
 
okay that's horrific if they couldn't identify fully what a rotting animal was inside his house then that is absolutely sickening and I cant imagine what type of disgusting stuff was inside his sauces

Sm1nts2escape said:
So just because he is was a hobby sauce maker that means all others are going to be just as bad?
 
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no shes saying you need to realize the dangers of what you are dealing with when ordering from businesses that are not certified and legit I remember seeing reviews of some of his products and he sounded like a nice guy with a business that was decent but just not big enough to go legit but it turns out it was exactly the opposite. one of the reviewers actually just put out an apology video for directing people to his sauces and products.
 
you need to realize the dangers of what you are dealing with when ordering from businesses that are not certified and legit
 
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Seems like 99.999% of the problems...like death from food poisoning, occur from businesses that are certified and legit.
 
Not defending this guy, just expressing my views on a different aspect of this story.
 
Apparently the sauce was called "Danny Fannin Extreme Heat and Fruits" and came in a mason jar.  I've also seen some in 5oz woozy with wax tops.  Just found out the woozys were "Texas Love # 4"  Different #'s for different batches.
 
Yes, geeme, thanks. Anyone with a jar should pitch it. 
 
Here's a snip from a video review.  No label on the jar.  This one was a hot peach mango.
Fannin jar.JPG

 
Snip of the Texas Love
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The ingredients in the Texas Love contain butter, which is a hugely critical item to have in a sauce.  I can make all kinds of vinegar and fruit sauce with the blessing of the Process Authority.  As soon as I wanted to do the BBQ sauce which contains butter, I had to get Better Process Control School certified.     
 
geeme said:
More specifically - anyone who bought sauce from this specific person should consider throwing it away, given the conditions it was likely made in. Ann's post is fair warning to anyone with a bottle of his sauce, not an indictment of any other sauce maker, hobby or otherwise.
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True.
Sorry Ann.
 
I'm just hating on the 60+ MILLION federal laws right now.
 
Especially all the hoops we are having to jump through now that the city is finally enforcing the three year old state laws which stem from the federal "food safety and modernization act" even though everything we sell is listed as "potentially non hazardous" in the first place.
 
Meanwhile, churches can continue to poison people all they want as theyre exempted from not only state laws but federal (I believe) also.
 
While I'm not really a religious person.... I don't subscribe to manmade religion, simply because mankind is flawed...... I'm really curious to hear how churches "poison" people. You talkin' Jim Jones & Kool Aid kinda stuff, or do you just feel that giving people something positive to believe in is a poisonous idea?
 
Buzz,
I took mx5's comment as a reference to unlicensed food operations.  Although that technically isn't quite right.  Church kitchen are usually inspected by city or county health officials to make sure they have working refer, triple sinks, etc.  That doesn't mean that the person cooking knows what they are doing or that improperly prepared food isn't served at the pot luck. 
 
I hope mx5 wasn't commenting about the political interpretation of that "poison" comment.   
 
OK... I was just curious. If there's a food issue there, then I can accept that. I may have misinterpreted as well. I rescind my question.
 
I was just commenting on the fact that they CAN poison people with salmonella or botulism.
 
There is no licensing for them here and their kitchens dont HAVE to be inspected either if theyre just doing a fundraiser ie the farmers market. And the food they sell doesnt even have to be made in the church kitchen, inspected or not for the farmers market. On top of that a lot of the homemade food items are donated by people who made them in their home kitchen.
 
They only have to have an inspected kitchen if theyre working as a soup kitchen, here.
 
And yet, the same regulations won't allow us to set up a food kitchen in our front yard to feed the homeless. I feel ya.
 
There's a special place in hell for that pederast scumbag. I hope he gets shanked, survives (barely) then castrated, then shanked again, and survives again, and then shanked again. Lather, rinse, repeat.

What a disgusting despicable person. I said the same when I saw this on FB. Horrific. I can't imagine what went into that sauce given the state of the home.
 
I would say that buying from inspected/licensed kitchens is a little safer. However I fully support hobby sauce makers. I'd rather support the common market than big corporations any day. Most hobby sauce makers are doing this cause they simply have a love for it and that is a idea that I can trust and respect. Sadly some people are just straight up disgusting as is the case here. But with non hobby sauce makers I would argue that they are more likely to take short cuts for profits etc. People are taking a risk when buying any product they didn't make themselves, licensed or not. There is a common denominator and that is humans. Thanks for warning. Hat tip
 
Sm1nts2escape said:
I would say that buying from inspected/licensed kitchens is a little safer. However I fully support hobby sauce makers. I'd rather support the common market than big corporations any day. Most hobby sauce makers are doing this cause they simply have a love for it and that is a idea that I can trust and respect. Sadly some people are just straight up disgusting as is the case here. But with non hobby sauce makers I would argue that they are more likely to take short cuts for profits etc. People are taking a risk when buying any product they didn't make themselves, licensed or not. There is a common denominator and that is humans. Thanks for warning. Hat tip
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The difference is that a non-hobby (otherwise known as a "professional") saucemaker uses a licensed and inspected kitchen, produces a product as, or under the guidance of a certified kitchen manager or canner, and has their product inspected by their local process authority, along with having lot control for recall purposes and liability insurance in the event that any harm is done or perceived. Training, licensing, inspection & insurance coverage more than make the differences clear.

No offense but I find your "cutting corners for profit" comparison statement to be preposterous. A professional sauce maker may well "cut a corner" for profit - which means maybe using a less expensive vinegar or using a cayenne instead of a more expensive tepin, or switching salt companies.

The hobbiest "cutting corners" might mean not bothering to clean up the dead cat anf feces off of the kitchen counter before making sauce. Or something small like not washing their hands after taking a crap then heading right to the kitchen.

I too support hobby sauce makers - I was one myself for the better part of 8 years until I launched my company. Not sure why you felt the need to assert that professionals have any less love for making hot sauce than hobbyists. If anything the opposite conclusion could be drawn - some people love hot sauce so much they make it their life's work despite significant hurdles, heaps of competition & and financial challenges.

Regardless, this particular hobbyist outlines the very real danger of purchasing a food product from someone who is making and selling illegally. While pretty extreme, and absolutely the "worst case scenario" it certainly provides an effective example of why there's risk. I feel awful for the reviewers/customers who've ingested anything made in those conditions. And worse still, that evil person may well have deliberately tampered with the sauces he sent out for some kind of sadistic pleasure.

I'm not saying hobbyists are bad - no one is making the generalization that all hobbyists are like this guy. But you'd have to be nuts to not acknowledge the danger of eating something made by someone you don't know in conditions you're unaware of. And when you buy from a non-professional, (a hobbyist) that's exactly what you're doing. And with no liability coverage, good luck seeking recourse if the product made you sick.
 
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