Where does Pace extra hot salsa fit into all this?
Scoville DeVille said:As opposed to????
To me, a sauce with heat and the flavor of the pepper is better.
5 oz of sauce with one or two quality peppers is better than 5 oz of sauce with 2drops of tasteless (at best) extract. IMO
I believe I was called a wimp by you for starting a thread titled something along the lines of "what if its too hot I'm a crying little p***y" or something to that effect at least. So, allow me to return the favor!The Hot Pepper said:F%^K extract sauces! NO MORE!
It knocked me out of commission for 4 hours. In severe pain. Brutal pain! I can take the "burning" of the mouth, with any pepper, and even an extract sauce. The problems come about 20 minutes later when you feel like devil is inside you with a chainsaw in one hand, and a flame thrower in the other. Burning and jabbing for 4 hours!
Blair's and other extract sauces suck. They have that ever so identifiable "metallic" flavor that over shadows anything that otherwise could be good tasting.Dulac said:That's one reason I make extract. Some peppers taste good but are not that hot.
+1 - I have a guide that I never finished because not many people seemed interested and I've been lazy, but even the part I did post is quite a lengthy process.Scoville DeVille said:You make extract? Or is it a tincture? Extracting capcaisin is a very complicated, multi step process. Tinctures are simple and is basically concentrating the oils in Everclear and evaporate some of the liquid.
Naga Chomper said:Where does Pace extra hot salsa fit into all this?
Scoville DeVille said:Blair's and other extract sauces suck. They have that ever so identifiable "metallic" flavor that over shadows anything that otherwise could be good tasting.
You make extract? Or is it a tincture? Extracting capcaisin is a very complicated, multi step process. Tinctures are simple and is basically concentrating the oils in Everclear and evaporate some of the liquid.
JayT said:
Pace started in 1947 in San Antonio. It is not a hot sauce or extract though.
Oh HAAAEL No! hahaha That is Chemistry or VooDoo, I am not sure which. LOLimpending_bending said:+1 - I have a guide that I never finished because not many people seemed interested and I've been lazy, but even the part I did post is quite a lengthy process.
SD - have you performed a capsaicin isolation process before?
Ahh. Blair's Shot to Hell... Never had that, but still not sure if I want to.Dulac said:
I have to disagree with Blair's sauces sucking. I taste mostly red habanero and bhut jolokias in Blair's Shot to Hell. Yeah, it's a tincture, which is a method of extraction.
That just sounds nasty. Makes me glad I haven't tried any oleorosin products yet.salsalady said:Just for information-
Left to right-
1 mil shu capsicum oleoresin (aka- extract)
15.2mil shu refined capsaicin powder
9.6mil shu capsaicin solution
1.5mil shu capsaicin solution
another larger bottle of 1.5mil shu capsaicin solution
cayenne & alcohol tincture
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Quote from an extract manufacturer-
"Chile Oleoresin is extracted from Dried Red Chiles by Solvent Extraction process. Solvents used are Acetone, Hexane, Ethylene Di Chloride, Methanol, or Ethanol depending upon basic raw material quality and country of exports."
Scoville DeVille said:Oh HAAAEL No! hahaha That is Chemistry or VooDoo, I am not sure which. LOL
Ahh. Blair's Shot to Hell... Never had that, but still not sure if I want to.
Not really wanting to start an argument but my understanding is that a Tincture is a form of extraction (concentration) which doesn't have that gasoline taste from true Distilled Extraction... stronger gasoline taste, less resulting volume, more heat, and more nasty. LOL
lol so THATS what the lock of hair was for!Scoville DeVille said:Oh HAAAEL No! hahaha That is Chemistry or VooDoo, I am not sure which. LOL
The solvent evaporates as long as it is made correctly so its not part of the final product. If in doubt or it still bothers you though, make it with ethanol.MeatHead1313 said:That just sounds nasty. Makes me glad I haven't tried any oleorosin products yet.
Which oil? In any case, yes. It is a pain in the ass. I made a post about it but never completed it. Some day I will...Dulac said:I'm pretty sure you can extract it to the point of just having oil left. I haven't tried that yet. Has anyone given that a try?
impending_bending said:lol so THATS what the lock of hair was for!
salsalady said:Just for information-
Left to right-
1 mil shu capsicum oleoresin (aka- extract)
15.2mil shu refined capsaicin powder
9.6mil shu capsaicin solution
1.5mil shu capsaicin solution
another larger bottle of 1.5mil shu capsaicin solution
cayenne & alcohol tincture
IMG_1992.JPG
IMG_1994.JPG
Quote from an extract manufacturer-
"Chile Oleoresin is extracted from Dried Red Chiles by Solvent Extraction process. Solvents used are Acetone, Hexane, Ethylene Di Chloride, Methanol, or Ethanol depending upon basic raw material quality and country of exports."