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JCR glog - re-loaded.

This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Thanks!

haha yeah no doubt. I'm not sure I CAN'T eat them all - fresh any way.

I made a big solar dehydrator, I have a pair of smokers, and an electric dehydrator... I'm thinking I'll smoke some, freeze some, and maybe offer up a box or two of the superhots on the marketplace... 1$ no reserve, shipping included auctions... hmm...

We'll see.
 
Admittedly I haven't read through your entire glog, but I noticed you mention the Blue Mystery from Judy at one point. That still going for you? If it is some sort of cross as it sounds like from her description, it would be interesting to keep track of the progress...

Here's mine. It's a late start, so it hasn't even started flowering yet. I really liked its aroma when I cracked the dried pod open, so I'm curious to see what they're like fresh...

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I did start that just recently, within the last week actually :) I'm looking forward to growing it out.It does sound like a cross of some kind. I'm hoping that I can maybe stabilize it eventually.
 
Nice harvest, JCR, you are having a real poddy!
Enjoy the heck out of your bounty, my friend!
 
Thanks brother, I'm pretty tickled... My plants are still loaded down with pods as well, I'm expecting another harvest or two like this before its all said and done.

haha...

I dunno where I'm going to put them all to be honest. Probably dry some, smoke some, sauce some, powder some...

I went back out to the smaller garden this afternoon and picked a few more peppers... Final tally for todays harvest:

149 annum bonnet
6 bhut jolokia
31 red 7 pot
6 Trinidad Scorpions
1 alma paprika
32 Explosive embers
4 Thai sun
8 jalapeño
1 amish appleapple
1 pablano
416 Orange Hab
2 Whippets Tail
1 banana
2 golden cayenne
14 b.a. cayenne
13 rooster spur
13 cayenne
6 holy mole
27 long red thin cayenne

Total: 733
 
Now that is what I call documentation!
Right on. What do you use the Explosive Embers for?
 
My mom likes to put them in salad. I've been drying them, running them through the coffee grinder, and mixing them together with the other peppers I don't know what to do with IE cayennes of various types, some of the habaneros, jalapenos that don't end up as poppers, and so forth.

mixed a bit of garlic in with it, and its great (well I think so... how did you like it?).

also what do you think people would pay for mixed FRB's of those peppers as long as they each included some superhots?
 
My mom likes to put them in salad. I've been drying them, running them through the coffee grinder, and mixing them together with the other peppers I don't know what to do with IE cayennes of various types, some of the habaneros, jalapenos that don't end up as poppers, and so forth. Dry them whole or cut in half?

mixed a bit of garlic in with it, and its great (well I think so... how did you like it?).
That was labeled Cayenne Chipotle and I thought it was fabulous. Good on everything
I tried it with. Still have a little for the next time we have eggs!
also what do you think people would pay for mixed FRB's of those peppers as long as they each included some superhots?
I know some people you would have to pay to take them :D
Serio, I have no experience in the market and no idea what
these things go for.

Have a good week, JCR!
 
Thanks Paul! I decided to make it simple and just do FRB auctions... start it at 1$ plus whatever the Flat Rate is on the box.

I put a thread up on the auction in the market place *shrug* so we'll see what happens.

Hope you have a good one as well my friend :)
 
Amazing harvest! Hey, think you've been referring to your whippets tail as a Big Jim??? The Big Jim is a New Mexico style green chile. big fat beefy pods. Whippets tails are the really long cayenne looking pods.

What all supers did you harvest? Unbelievable amount of orange Habs! How many Orange hab plants do you have going?

Answered my own question about the supers...working from my phone again bear with me!
 
Great job Jsschrstrcks,
Knowing you I'm not surprised. Man you did take on a lot of Pepper varieties this year.
You just can't beat that Coastal Florida for producing all year long between the sandy soil and the awesome weather.
I have growers in Tampa, St. Pete's, Fort Myers and St. Augustine.
What would you say are yoru 5 favorite Chiles that you have grown....and why?
Later,
Pepper Joe
 
You are right shane! My bad... I'll go edit the post haha.

Joe - thats a tough question....

In no particular order, I like Rooster Spurs because of their growth habbit... They seem to be a darker green than the rest, the leaves are a little bigger (downward pointing), and then at the top an explosion of red.

Chimayos are nice (even though its not a real chimayo since chimayo is a landrace, and copyrighted name, and mine was not grown out west), we put those in our salads.

Thai Sun are cool - little bitty short plants, with a hand full of tiny red pods. The pods when drying make the house smell nice, kind of a sweet nutty (sorta) scent... nice flavor too. Great for containers (which I don't do) since my biggest one is about 8 inches tall.

uhm The superhots are gratifying to grow as well. I've enjoyed spreading those around to my friends and family, and I actually like the taste of Bhut's now.

Any of the chinenses seem to love my location. The Annuums (at least last year) did well until the hottest part of the year.

My heavy Praeternissum has been probably my fastest grower. its about 8 weeks old I'd guess, and is knee high in a 5 gallon pot. I really need to plant him out.

As you can tell, I like me some Orange Habaneros as well *chuckle*.

We make a dish that is loosely similar to Chili rellenos. We take Pablanos, halve them, put them on a bed of rice, fill them with meat, season everything, cover it in cheese, and cook it like a cassarole. I like Pablano's for that dish primarily.

The Yellow "annuum (?)" Bonnets, are cool too... They seem to produce a good number of pods, with the yellow chinense flavor, thick walls, a goodly amount of seeds... Though they are not has hot as the Orange Habs.

I like some of the other ones I've got going as well, the germplasm bank peppers that are only known by their accession number. I feel like I'm preserving a species by their propagation...

Thats way more than five... But I digress... how about you Joe?

I've not got as big of a grow going as many... but 400 plants isn't half bad either. I've got about 2000 sq ft that is tilled and weeded, but not planted yet... Still figuring out what I'm going to do there... barackapore for sure. Maybe some more wilds...

I have about 265 varieties in my seed bank (my website Jsschrstrcks.com) has them all listed, along with how many seeds for each I've saved... Its relatively up to date, I may have more of a certain variety but most likely don't have less than is listed haha. If that makes sense.
 
Hi Ken! I've been trying to get caught up on your glog tonight. Didn't realize how far behind I'd gotten!

733 peppers in one harvest. That's just ridonkulous!

I do a lot of canning, but have never tried to make homemade hot sauce. Still searching for a recipe that's not too vinegary. I might try a recipe that uses fermentation, if it uses less vinegar than the canning recipes. When I can salsa, I substitute lime juice for half of the vinegar called for in the recipe, because like you, I do find vinegar somewhat offensive.

How's your database coming along? I don't really have one, but I do keep a germination chart each year for everything I sow, not just peppers. I record the date and number of seeds planted, whether it was wintersown, direct sown, or sown indoors, the germination date, the date planted out and the number of seedlings planted out. and the date of first harvest, plus any notes specific to that variety, such as productivity, heat level, etc. It helps when making my growlist for the next year, if I have some basic information. When you are growing as many varieties as I do, there's no way to remember it all from one year to the next.
 
I'm pretty stoked about the harvest! There are maybe a dozen more superhots that are going to be ready to be picked in a few days, and pounds upon pounds of pretty much everything else that will be ready soon.

I'll PM you my recipe... Your mileage may vary, you might want to check the PH... But I haven't had any trouble... Either I've been lucky, or the PH is good. Either way, it doesn't taste like vinegar :D, despite having vinegar content.

The DB is coming along slowly. Feels like I have a hundred things to do, all more urgent than the DB, but I am still making progress... I have about 260+ or - varieties in my seed box, so like you there is no way I can possibly remember everything from year to year.

Because our winter is so short, I am anticipating most of the peppers from this year surviving into next year. I'll cull some of the Orange Habs. but I'm really pretty happy with the mix I have for the domesticated peppers.

Thanks for dropping in :)
 
Your yellow annuum with Chinense flavor sounds like the ones I have going that we're labeled Scotch Bonnets...I now believe them to be Jamaican Hot Yellows. Delicious pepper with just the right amount of heat! Would be a great addition for you Bonnie! Very early and prolific.
 
Rockin harvest JCR! Thats a rediculous amount of habs! The rest of them look pretty awesome too. Your gonna be a busy man with all the smoking and dehydrating that needs to be done! Pretty awesome to get that kind of harvest so early in june. You should get a few more big ones this year. Congrats on everything turning out so good!
 
that well could be! I sent some to Mike - smokemaster - recently. I've not heard back from him about it yet, but when I do I'll post his thoughts.

The plant looks more chinense than Annuum, but larger distances between nodes and so forth. One, and occasionally two pods per node.

Yeah - I should have seed for it soon... 150 or so of them sitting on my dining room table at the moment :P :dance:

Thanks Beehunter! I'm still really stoked about it, especially since there are still pods out there on the cusp of changing color - INCL a number of varieties not included in todays harvest. as well as a bunch of superhots.

I think my plants thought they were going to die from all the rain, and accelerated their pod production haha.
 
Your yellow annuum with Chinense flavor sounds like the ones I have going that we're labeled Scotch Bonnets...I now believe them to be Jamaican Hot Yellows. Delicious pepper with just the right amount of heat! Would be a great addition for you Bonnie! Very early and prolific.

Okay, Shane, I've added Scotch Bonnets to my next year's grow list. Man, that things already getting long, LOL!
 
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