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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Wow lookin good Ken! That's called using your resources right there! I like the stand that's holding your foam cup starts. Very cool. I need one of those to keep the slugs away in the spring time. Nice list and good luck with the rest of your grow!

Nice yard btw.

Brandon
 
Thanks Brandon! I get a lot of use out of that thing... In fact, I've got a sandblaster from a garage sale recently, and need to sand + paint it... It was my grandfathers.

I like my yard too :) you can't see it but both to my right, and behind me there is water :D
 
*Graft UPDATE*

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I re-used the host from the first failed graft (where the scion died) and the scion from the last failed graft where "fifi" the dog ate part of my project.

1. sterlize razor knife in alcohol
2. peeled back the skin from a section aprox 1/2" by 1/4" to form a generously sized flap
3. measured the scion against the graft and used a water soluble marker to mark just above and below the graft sites, scrape skin and some flesh off the scion between the marked areas almost all the way around.
4. insert scion into flap (moisten graft site with water that has sat out over night)
5. tape liberally with the sticky part of the tape pointing out from the graft.
6. because my fingers were wet, and a little dirty, the end of the piece of tape didn't want to stick, so I wrapped a twisty tie around the graft site hoping to further secure all the bits in place.

now the hard part... waiting.

Also I did NOT cut the scion loose from its roots (which would have made this a t graft, instead of a funky type of approach graft.

Does this have a name? or can we call it flap grafting?
 
I just put mine in a spot easy to forget about...good luck. I'm trying to think of what other seeds to start for future attempts.I have a couple Manzano's that I test germinated in a plastic container I may go ahead and put in pellets and try to graft one onto a goat weed and one onto a cayenne....
 
more just for the heck of it? or trying to bring a gene over from manzano (or too manzano?)?

Also I forgot to upload and link this pic earlier...

I've decided to name this particular plant "determination".
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Last update for the night (I think!)

My second tray of "Oh My Aching Back Pepper Mix" from Lisa of amishland seeds has started to sprout and I saw 8 little guys that came up so far this evening... check it out:
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I am wondering what I've got, the possibilities are:
"Goatshorn" Sweet Long Italian Pepper
"Little Nubian" hot pepper
"Hungarian Death" hot pepper
"Red Hinkelhatz" hot pepper
"Tollies" Long Sweet Italian Pepper
"Tiny Samoa" hot pepper
"Yellow Amish Stuffer" sweet pepper
"Doorknob" sweet pepper
"Red Amish Stuffer" sweet pepper
"Fish" hot Pepper
"Martin's Carrot" hot pepper
"Turkey aka Ratturd" hot pepper
"Klari Hungarian Cheese" sweet pepper
"Svetlanka" hot pepper

Guessing most of the ones up this fast are Annuums...
 
Well... so much for 8! I have the 8 that were up by the time of my last posting, and 30 more besides!!!

I was pretty stoked to say the least :)

Watered my main garden, and the smaller garden this morning.... Its windy so I used the rotating sprinkler rather than numerous trips with gallon jugs.

Had to move one of my germination trays out to the picnic table to make room inside for the seedlings that had been potted.

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Thanks Megahot :)
 
Well folks, I just happened to bring in my graft... They had been promising rain, and I figured I ought to control the amount of rain it recieved....

As it turns out, its a good thing... Just a minute ago when I checked the weather channel for my area, we had 17mph sustained winds, and gusts in excess of 40mph.

Hoping the planted kids are doing alright... its 4am here. Pouring cats and dogs.

Will take pictures when the sun comes up, and the rain subsides... They've had a pretty good workout (Not quite like AJ's boot camp haha) but they get a fan, and its been windy lately in general, so they have had to strengthen their muscles a bit....

Not sure any pepper plant is ever fully prepared for 44mph gusts though.

When the wind changed, I ran outside, and brought the seedlings that have been hardening off, inside the garage. The overhead light didn't want to come on, but by the light of my cell, I could see some cups had been knocked over... I righted them, but it remains to be seen what kind of shape they are going to be in.
 
All is well.

The only casualty seems to have been my windmill... it tore loose from its concrete foundation and blew over bending the blades... Nothing that can't be fixed though.
 
28 more up today.

looking good. 141 in the ground, and 138 in foam cups.

if tonight is any indicator, I'll have another good sized bunch tomorrow to transplant.
 
Glad to hear most everything was OK after that wind. Little pepper plants don't stand up well to heavy wind. I'm sure the grafted plants would fare even worse. Pepper farming at 4:00AM - now that is dedication. I'm sure your hard work will be repaid with a bumper crop of peppers this season!
 
I sure hope so haha!

There are a few with a cotyledon with a damaged stem, but nothing really broken that I can see.

I'll go get some pictures :)
 
Bhut Jolokia from esox seed
Looks like one of the cotyledons was damaged in the winds... Also I forgot to adjust the white balance for flourescent lighting on a couple of these pictures, so when the color changes it wasn't photoshop, just a mistake on my camera settings.

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Aji Yellow - Regal Seeds
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Oh My Aching Back Seed Mix Sprouts - Amishland Seeds
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California Wonder - Burpee - has a weird notch... I was worried at first, but its in both leaves, in the same relative spot, and in another sprout of this same variety... So I'm guessing its some spider, bald eagle, spotted owl or manatee gene expressing it self in a weird way... three sprouts, and all three have it.

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First Pod from before in a higher resolution, and with a ruler for scale :D
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Hey, Ken! Great stuff. I love it when the grow log becomes a
springboard for discussion and experimentation. I'm digging
the thread on grafting. You have a great one going here; good
luck going forward...
 
Thanks Paul! Picture of my wind damaged windmill.
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I have the same windmill...paited in the landlord's team colors (Chargers) and it has hit the ground several times. Each time I stand it back up it clanks and squeaks until I can get it all bent back into good working condition...

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there it is with my little helper!

I think your Cayenne passed mine. I'll have to check in on that pod when I get home.

Looking good in spite of mother nature!
Shane
 
more just for the heck of it? or trying to bring a gene over from manzano (or too manzano?)?

Also I forgot to upload and link this pic earlier...

I've decided to name this particular plant "determination".
determination.jpg


Last update for the night (I think!)

My second tray of "Oh My Aching Back Pepper Mix" from Lisa of amishland seeds has started to sprout and I saw 8 little guys that came up so far this evening... check it out:
oh-my-aching-back-pepper-mix.jpg


I am wondering what I've got, the possibilities are:
"Goatshorn" Sweet Long Italian Pepper
"Little Nubian" hot pepper
"Hungarian Death" hot pepper
"Red Hinkelhatz" hot pepper
"Tollies" Long Sweet Italian Pepper
"Tiny Samoa" hot pepper
"Yellow Amish Stuffer" sweet pepper
"Doorknob" sweet pepper
"Red Amish Stuffer" sweet pepper
"Fish" hot Pepper
"Martin's Carrot" hot pepper
"Turkey aka Ratturd" hot pepper
"Klari Hungarian Cheese" sweet pepper
"Svetlanka" hot pepper

Guessing most of the ones up this fast are Annuums...

Good log - I'm pulling for the last graft! :cool: ..and I must add, yours looks to be the first sound powered grow :rofl: on here!

...thats a heck of a list as well!
 
I have the same windmill...painted in the landlord's team colors (Chargers) and it has hit the ground several times. Each time I stand it back up it clanks and squeaks until I can get it all bent back into good working condition...


there it is with my little helper!

I think your Cayenne passed mine. I'll have to check in on that pod when I get home.

Looking good in spite of mother nature!
Shane


Haha thats sweet - other than the chargers ;). My windmill used to be on the canal bank, but I got tired of fishing it out of the canal in winter =x. It started its life anchored to a concrete pad... But one of the hurricanes that hit a few years ago caused the anchors to break off... it was shortly there after that I moved it here to my back yard... I like it, and I spend a lot of time in my garden, so it seemed a natural place to move it :). I need to paint it though. The blades are starting to rust.

Your helper looks like a hard worker.

Will be watching your thread for an update!! The plant it self is 14 inches tall, and there are about 10 pods on it... That was the first and largest pod. Yeah I'm stoked that there was so little damage.
Good log - I'm pulling for the last graft! :cool: ..and I must add, yours looks to be the first sound powered grow :rofl: on here!

...thats a heck of a list as well!

HAHA yeah, two sony's... I'm going to start calling them my germination aids.

Thanks - the list is still growing... I expect a ton of new varieties from the Pick-of-peppers swap, plus some that I've traded for... could have another 50-100 varieties in total... I have the room for it and the time. Might as well right? :)
 
Things are cranking along with more seeds germinating, Ken!
I'll check back in to see how that graft is progressing - your lookin'
good, bro!
 
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