• Blog your pepper progress. The first image in your first post will be used to represent your Glog.

JCR glog - re-loaded.

This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
anti-frost-bivouac.jpg


. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
hybrid.jpg

hybrid-pod-e1330571791358.jpg


See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
So... I know this was pages ago, but congrats on grad school. What school (if you don't mind my asking)? I really enjoyed seminary. Great opportunity to learn a lot and think a lot. Best of luck! Your harvests look awesome by the way!
 
+ 1 on that Paul! Especially coming from someone that doesn't even HAVE a winter. :silenced:

Technically we do... you know its winter because you can go outside and its not 100% humidity and almost 100 degrees... its a nice punctuation mark in the tropical weather. haha, well it will freeze here maybe 5-10 times... But it can freeze one day, and be hot enough to hit the beach the next...

Swimming on Christmas is not unheard of, in fact its happened that way more than its been cold.

Its snowed once here in my lifetime, in early december, on my birthday in fact :)

So... I know this was pages ago, but congrats on grad school. What school (if you don't mind my asking)? I really enjoyed seminary. Great opportunity to learn a lot and think a lot. Best of luck! Your harvests look awesome by the way!

Well I graduated from Trinity College of Florida... Which few have ever heard of, but back before our name changed, its where Billy Graham graduated. Assuming I can get into the campus housing, I'll be going to Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forrest North Carolina. I really enjoyed my undergrad program (B.A.B.S. in Church Planting), and am expecting that I'll enjoy the graduate level work as well... M.Div, and ThM, the former in church planting, the latter in probably apologetics.

Thanks! I need to pick again already @.@ I'm happy about it, but my others haven't finished dehydrating. I might have to put them in the freezer for a few days.

Nice harvest shot, some day I will get there! lol. And congrats on grad school!! :)

Thanks Melissa! I am pretty happy about both!

Yup! You're right! So I went out today and cut back all the ones I want to overwinter! Finally got a jump on you FL growers!

too funny :)
 
Today on Ken's Garden:

Ken smoked 35 lbs of peppers on his uncles grill. Drama ensued. The peppers he smoked are either in powder form in a pickle jar, or in the dehydrator.

On the plus side, the first order of the four arrived, was in good shape, and the customer happy.

Happy customer = happy Ken.
 
Today on Ken's Garden:

Ken smoked 35 lbs of peppers on his uncles grill. Drama ensued. The peppers he smoked are either in powder form in a pickle jar, or in the dehydrator.

On the plus side, the first order of the four arrived, was in good shape, and the customer happy.

Happy customer = happy Ken.

can u ship your uncles smoker over here in hawaii i need one of those :fireball:
 
can u ship your uncles smoker over here in hawaii i need one of those :fireball:

ROFL yeah, I don't think it would survive... its looking pretty rickety. You can't see it in my picture, but there are a number of holes rusted through ornamental vents in the sides, top, bottom, and connective points...

I might have to get on him to fix this one, or make another one lol

By the way, I was just on another guys glog... He said his plants in a less productive - short season local, produce about 300 pods per plant per year (he had 2000 plants, so he raked in a surprising 600,000 pods).

Using those same numbers, I can expect about 120,000 pods. Assuming the average weight is that of an orange habanero (lets face it, I have a lot of those), that means about 63,493.08 oz... Which translates into just shy of 4000 lbs...

Good Lord almighty.

Forget filling Patricks bathtub with pods, I can fill his swimming pool...
 
Oh Patrick and spicy chicken are two different people, but yes, it was on his Glog that I got the 300 pods/plant number... Some of the small ornamentals seem like they have that many pods already!

gonna have to sell some I think... I eat about a gallon of hot-sauce per month... IIRC 3-5lbs of peppers per gallon of sauce. 4000lbs of peppers is going to take me about 1000 months conservatively, to consume.
 
Oh Patrick and spicy chicken are two different people, but yes, it was on his Glog that I got the 300 pods/plant number... Some of the small ornamentals seem like they have that many pods already!

gonna have to sell some I think... I eat about a gallon of hot-sauce per month... IIRC 3-5lbs of peppers per gallon of sauce. 4000lbs of peppers is going to take me about 1000 months conservatively, to consume.

damn 1gallon a month i need to learn how to make my own hot sauce if ever this plants will not die on me all i know to do is powder them and sprinkle on every food i ate i even bring a small bottle at work to use for my break lol
 
I use the stuff I make like crazy... Mix it with Mayo, turn it into a bbq sauce, mix it with catsup.. salad dressing...

you name it.

The current batch has a goodly amount of Bhut Jalokias in it, so in conjunction with the habaneros, there is an instant heat, and a slow burn...

its nice.
 
I use the stuff I make like crazy... Mix it with Mayo, turn it into a bbq sauce, mix it with catsup.. salad dressing...

you name it.

The current batch has a goodly amount of Bhut Jalokias in it, so in conjunction with the habaneros, there is an instant heat, and a slow burn...

its nice.
sounds good, i bet taste good also since u consume 1gallon a month, need to learn how to them already lol
 
I use the stuff I make like crazy... Mix it with Mayo, turn it into a bbq sauce, mix it with catsup.. salad dressing...

you name it.

The current batch has a goodly amount of Bhut Jalokias in it, so in conjunction with the habaneros, there is an instant heat, and a slow burn...

its nice.
girl at work: oh theres no hot sauce for my chicken..
me: theres tapatio,,
girl: ewww...
me: heres some ketchup..... sprinkle sprinkle (congo trinidad from windchicken).. BAM... there go.. hot ketchup!!

its true.. i too bring it everywhere i go...
 
Had a bag of my powder in my pocket last week while working on the pier...noticed a very distinctive burn along my left leg, yup you guessed it! Reached in the pocket and came out with a handful of powder! Ughhhhh...had to endure that ALL DAY! Worst part was the 100 mile drive home. The sun was beaming directly on that leg all the way. Double bags from here on out!
 
Had a bag of my powder in my pocket last week while working on the pier...noticed a very distinctive burn along my left leg, yup you guessed it! Reached in the pocket and came out with a handful of powder! Ughhhhh...had to endure that ALL DAY! Worst part was the 100 mile drive home. The sun was beaming directly on that leg all the way. Double bags from here on out!

ouchiiieeeee
 
heh - been there done that. Not with a baggie... But I had been harvesting superhots, and a buddy of mine called, he had some work for us to do (Tree trimming of all things), so I (thought) emptied my pockets, grabbed the chainsaw and truck and took off... About part way through the day - same deal - as it turns out I had missed a small bhut in my pocket... got it out of my pocket right away, but I think it makes your skin burn longer than your mouth...
 
heh - been there done that. Not with a baggie... But I had been harvesting superhots, and a buddy of mine called, he had some work for us to do (Tree trimming of all things), so I (thought) emptied my pockets, grabbed the chainsaw and truck and took off... About part way through the day - same deal - as it turns out I had missed a small bhut in my pocket... got it out of my pocket right away, but I think it makes your skin burn longer than your mouth...
and the lesson is dont put peppers in your pocket its gonna be :hot:
i learned my lesson as well, i was cuttin my red carribeans no gloves or anything then my mom called me she wants me to pick her up at the bus stop, so i stop from what i doin rinse my hand head to the bus stop grab while driving i scratch my eye next thing i know my eyes were burning so i have to pull over on the side because i cant open my eye after that incident i bought gloves at the store.
 
I generally don't use gloves, unless I am powdering superhots... I will only do those outdoors, and with a mask...

I've gotten pretty good about not touching anything... But I've gotten juice from a hanbanero in my eye, and its unpleasant. In the car its worse too because you can't just go stick your eye under running water...


One thing I hate, is getting Bhut powder under my fingernails...

Also its raining again -.-
 
Back
Top