No whining here I am just making an observation regarding pepper growth here verses other parts of the country. Yes my plants will get bigger and produce more peppers than I know what to do with but it's part of this hobby to learn how to grow better is it not?Jamison said:
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^ I'd gladly accept lower seasonal growth for a climate where they have a good chance of surviving the winter like there is in Hayward.
If I could water only every other day instead of every day and not have to start so many new plants every spring (not enough room inside to overwinter them all and can't go to much larger pots if I want them transportable), that's close to cutting in half the time and labor.
I would say another part of the hobby is learning to grow smarter to minimize the fuss and expense. There's nothing wrong with going to great lengths for a hobby (sort of the definition of a hobby?) but in the end there's still the ratio of peppers to time and cost. There's growers out there that do nothing more than spread manure and sew seed in the ground that have high yield merely because they have more land to throw at the problem.
If I could water only every other day instead of every day and not have to start so many new plants every spring (not enough room inside to overwinter them all and can't go to much larger pots if I want them transportable), that's close to cutting in half the time and labor.
I would say another part of the hobby is learning to grow smarter to minimize the fuss and expense. There's nothing wrong with going to great lengths for a hobby (sort of the definition of a hobby?) but in the end there's still the ratio of peppers to time and cost. There's growers out there that do nothing more than spread manure and sew seed in the ground that have high yield merely because they have more land to throw at the problem.
I am not one to overwinter Dave but if that is important to you than kudos to you.
practically have to over winter here, unless you start your seeds in November !!!
id love to be able to keep my plants outside for more then 3 or 4 months!
id love to be able to keep my plants outside for more then 3 or 4 months!
Man! I cannot imagine the tough times you all have to go through in that part of North America. Kudos to you for trying to do all you can. I feel for you.magicpepper said:
Going back over my pictures of grows from other years this morning I noticed how even slightly different places in the same country can have a drastic difference (UK btw).
My moms conservatory used to be great for growing in, all my supers were starting to pod up nicely by early may. Moved out into a nearby town recently, where I'm growing mostly in a greenhouse and garden, and now have almost nil pods of my supers.
Although I suppose that could be part of the learning curve with a new place.
Only thing that's going really well for the moment is my super chillies................. pffft.
My moms conservatory used to be great for growing in, all my supers were starting to pod up nicely by early may. Moved out into a nearby town recently, where I'm growing mostly in a greenhouse and garden, and now have almost nil pods of my supers.
Although I suppose that could be part of the learning curve with a new place.
Only thing that's going really well for the moment is my super chillies................. pffft.
I left some on my patio that has a roof on it one year and they didn't survive. It doesn't get real cold here in the winter but it does get into the low 40's and high 30's occasionally.Dave2000 said:
I personally love overwintering, if I could grow outside all year round I would, but we have 3-31\2 months of decent frosts around here so.....
Overwintering, makes your life so much better, ever since I read pepper gurus OW thread I been OWing at least a few plants, this last year was a trgedy and I lost my OWs but the last few years of using this method has been great, you pull out fully adult plants that start growing w/in a couple of days and podding w/in a couple of weeks, having superhots in April, a gift to be sure!I mean let's face it, there are some varieties, ie Jonah,Congo,chocobhut,brainstrain yellow, I grow every year, so why not get a headstart and have already mature plants, it can mean thee difference of several months of pod production,who can argue w/ that!
Overwintering, makes your life so much better, ever since I read pepper gurus OW thread I been OWing at least a few plants, this last year was a trgedy and I lost my OWs but the last few years of using this method has been great, you pull out fully adult plants that start growing w/in a couple of days and podding w/in a couple of weeks, having superhots in April, a gift to be sure!I mean let's face it, there are some varieties, ie Jonah,Congo,chocobhut,brainstrain yellow, I grow every year, so why not get a headstart and have already mature plants, it can mean thee difference of several months of pod production,who can argue w/ that!
Proud Marine Dad said:Man! I cannot imagine the tough times you all have to go through in that part of North America. Kudos to you for trying to do all you can. I feel for you.
It's not that tough. Tougher than your sweet local, for sure, but we make do here in the great white north. Hey, would love to see a GLOG update by the by, maybe things aren't as bad as they seem!
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but did you water them? What/when I do overwinter I leave them in the garage and put a light strip near them for nights the (attached) garage would dip below freezing, and a few in the basement. They don't all survive but that may be my fault for forgetting to water them... out of sight, out of mind.
Could be Dave as I don't water them much thinking I don't want to rot them out in the pot.
Guess from growing Dahlias, Begonias and other bulbs I am cautious to water a plant not growing.
Guess from growing Dahlias, Begonias and other bulbs I am cautious to water a plant not growing.
Could be Dave as I don't water them much thinking I don't want to rot them out in the pot.
Guess from growing Dahlias, Begonias and other bulbs I am cautious to water a plant not growing.
You'd be surprised. I over wintered a Jalapeños indoors in an unheated room (night temps down to between 1-5C) and it did fine. It didn't grow any the entire winter and I thought for sure it had died, but come March it started putting out new leaves. I always stuck my finger in and checked the soil for moisture before I watered.
Guess from growing Dahlias, Begonias and other bulbs I am cautious to water a plant not growing.
You'd be surprised. I over wintered a Jalapeños indoors in an unheated room (night temps down to between 1-5C) and it did fine. It didn't grow any the entire winter and I thought for sure it had died, but come March it started putting out new leaves. I always stuck my finger in and checked the soil for moisture before I watered.