chinense my habanero peppers are not that hot

[tjg911]

i though habs were like wicked hot, they are in the 200-300k SU range no?

my scotch bonnet plant is producing peppers that look like habs not scotch bonnets, they are pale orange and look like this

i don't have a camera but this is an excellent picture as to shape and color. i removed the seeds but left some of the pith and ate 2 of these and they were hot but not even close to my fatali peppers. i just ate them with 1 slice of bread with some mayo and 1 slice of american cheese. if i did that with a fatali i'd have been in serious pain from 1/2 a pepper!

do some habanero plants produce peppers that are not that hot, like maybe 30-40k SU? i can't believe that this is normal for a hab, the heat is just way too mild.

any ideas?

 

[Omri]

1. C. chinense chiles vary anywhere from 0SHU in some cases to over 1,000,000SHU.
2. Most C. chinense varieties are somewhere in the 100,000SHU, and that's if they were grown right.
3. Fatalii's chiles are some of the C. chinense chiles that usually are much hotter than 100,000SHU.

 

[spongey600]

i have an orange hab plant that has super fruity sweet pods that to me are not that hot but to my gf and coworkers they are HOOOOOT! so dont know what to tell you OMRI hit it right on the head! i have found that pods off the same plant can vary in heat level, so try to not water it and stress it as the pods ripen and see if that helps

 

[RaelThomas]

+ 1 to Omri & Spongey.
But! They are definitely far hotter than 30-50k SHU, if they seem that mild they are probably not habs.

 

[S.S.Tupperware]

Well if its the first one or so I had a bhut that had no heat, none period. But a few later, I know what the sun tastes like. On a side note I kept waitin for my Choco fatalis to be hot and nothing. Waste of time I say...

 

[SuperHot]

Well if its the first one or so I had a bhut that had no heat, none period. But a few later, I know what the sun tastes like. On a side note I kept waitin for my Choco fatalis to be hot and nothing. Waste of time I say...

That's what I hear!!

 

[SuperHot]

i though habs were like wicked hot, they are in the 200-300k SU range no?

my scotch bonnet plant is producing peppers that look like habs not scotch bonnets, they are pale orange and look like this

i don't have a camera but this is an excellent picture as to shape and color. i removed the seeds but left some of the pith and ate 2 of these and they were hot but not even close to my fatali peppers. i just ate them with 1 slice of bread with some mayo and 1 slice of american cheese. if i did that with a fatali i'd have been in serious pain from 1/2 a pepper!

do some habanero plants produce peppers that are not that hot, like maybe 30-40k SU? i can't believe that this is normal for a hab, the heat is just way too mild.

any ideas?

Maybe it's just me and I'm weak, but mine are hot and they look like those in the pic.

 

[tjg911]

thanks. i have eaten at least 8-10 of these peppers so far so it isn't just the 1st one or two. i did not water the plant too much as i knew stressing it would create hotter fruits. rain is in the forecast for the next 7 days so i can't get around that and i'm getting close to the end of the season. frost can come by late september and certainly by early october tho i will cover the plant with a comforter to extend it's ability to ripen all the green peppers. i was surprised at how many there are when i was checking it out sunday, probably 2 dozen or more so that's a good amount. if only these were as hot as my fatali. it's funny how i always thought of habs as being so incredibly hot that would be nearly impossible to eat and this plant is producing fruits that are not even as hot as my long red slim cayenne peppers were in 2009 and 2010!

 

[RaelThomas]

^ This is what i meant, they are definitely not habs are they if aren't as hot as a cayenne. they should be phenomenally hotter.
Did you get them from a commercial nursery? Sometimes they cross the habs here with anuums so they are easier for people to grow... stupid I know.

 

[tjg911]

^ This is what i meant, they are definitely not habs are they if aren't as hot as a cayenne. they should be phenomenally hotter.
Did you get them from a commercial nursery? Sometimes they cross the habs here with anuums so they are easier for people to grow... stupid I know.

commercial, well sorta. there's a guy who sells tomato and peppers plants and in the summer tomatoes, peppers and garlic. 1 man operation i saw a lot of seed catalogs i recognize when i was there in may.

my cayenne comment i think is valid, however, i did not grow them this year as i got long red thick cayenne - they were mislabeled. now i doubt i have gotten used to hot peppers this fast that a long red slim cayenne would not be hot to me so i used that as an example. if it was a hab i'd be happy sure looks like one but really lacks the heat.

 

[SuperHot]

You may want to consider growing your own next season from seed.

 

[tjg911]

yeah sadly i think you are right. he has a great selection of hot peppers but if i can't be sure of what i am getting then it's of no use actually worse really!

 

[spongey600]

You may want to consider growing your own next season from seed.

there are plenty of members on here that will help you to get the seeds of the plants you want to grow!

 

[tjg911]

there are plenty of members on here that will help you to get the seeds of the plants you want to grow!

thanks but well being new i am hesitant to ask for anything right now. i think i need to educate myself to understand the different peppers before i go diving in.

the biggest issue is my garden space is allocated for different vegetables, tomatoes and peppers share 1/4 of the garden so i can't just grow a whole bunch of peppers due to space. i'm pretty happy with fatali and long red slim cayenne and thought about growing 3 of each next year but i know there are others that are worth trying. i also need room for corno di toro peppers probably 2 or 4 plants so like i said space is always an issue.

another thing is i have always bought pepper plants. i have read how you need a heat mat for starting them and i don't really want to buy one so i'm not sure how my germination will be. i heat the house with a woodstove so in late february early march it is usually very warm in here but if it's warm out it can drop to 60 in here so that is not too good for peppers. now in january it's usually 78 in here but january is too early to start them. i grow a lot of plants from seed under shop lights and adding a bunch of peppers will eat up shelf space, another issue in april to consider.

 

[spongey600]

well, i thought that mine we not that hot as i could eat them and all i tasted was sweet with a little kick. well i was in Santa Monica, ca visiting my buddy and i took him a few pods i had and said that we needed to eat a pod right there! so he agreed, we said cheers and i ate mine he gave his GF a bite then ate the rest and well it hada kick to me, but he drank 1/2 gallon of milk, and his eyes were watering and she was flipping out! oh it was hilarious! so mine are hot!

 

[papadaca]

every pod is different but if they are sweat,and not as hot
you could save seeds and breed a milder sweeter habanero, more general public friendly.
Could be a hit. I grew a Habanero plant from some orange parent pods i got at the local super market
they are maturing yellow and have a way better taste than the parent pods. very citrus in flavor and unique.

 

[fubarhouse]

There was a breed developed habaneros in 2005 I think somewhere in Texas, it was bred to introduce habaneros to every family, all the flavour with no heat. Was the same heat as a jalapeño I think.

You might have this variety, by chance.

 

[PIC 1]

There is a variety that looks and smells similar to the typical Mexican Orange Hab but little or no heat and is called the "Orange Suave"

My sis is always receiving starter plants and seeds from various companies , for evaluation and she usually throws me the ones of interest,

a couple years ago I remember growing those, no heat at all but made a nice 'Pico de Gallo" for those who can't tolerate the spice...

 

[papadaca]

There is a variety that looks and smells similar to the typical Mexican Orange Hab but little or no heat and is called the "Orange Suave"

My sis is always receiving starter plants and seeds from various companies , for evaluation and she usually throws me the ones of interest,

a couple years ago I remember growing those, no heat at all but made a nice 'Pico de Gallo" for those who can't tolerate the spice...

im going to have to try this pod.

how is the flavor????

may make for nice salsa or sirachi type sauce.

 

[papadaca]

I might recommend going to your local super market and buying a handful of orange habs and get the seeds fresh from the pod. I did that last year and ended up with over 30 hab plants.