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Pepper plant problems
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First off, I'd tell you to absolutely stop diagnosing individual deficiencies. Especially if you haven't had soil or plant tissue tested. Since we all know that's typically expensive - sometimes prohibitively so - let's just go on the assumption that you haven't done that.
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Secondly - have you been supplementing anything else? Nitrogen? Calcium? Magnesium?
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What is your typical feeding regimen? What were they on, before they got to this point? How often? What's your soil pH? More info, more info, more info... If you have had this problem with other plants, as well, then you have a definite problem, and you need to get to the bottom of it.
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Secondly - have you been supplementing anything else? Nitrogen? Calcium? Magnesium?
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What is your typical feeding regimen? What were they on, before they got to this point? How often? What's your soil pH? More info, more info, more info... If you have had this problem with other plants, as well, then you have a definite problem, and you need to get to the bottom of it.
My soil is compost that's cut with a little sand. We have a local vendor called Earth Farms.
pH was 6.0.
I side dressed with organic 5-5-5 when they blossomed, then "tomato fertilizer" (4-18-38) last week.
I've never used Epsom or calcium nitrate with soil-grown plants, only hydroponics.
Since I grow everything in this compost, next year after it's delivered I'll have it tested. It's free.
Edit: I should mention. Out of about 40 buckets, I only see this problem in 3 or 4. Everything is in the same location with the same soil, same sun exposure, same watering schedule, same side-dress.
And the Japanese beetles were kind to me this year.
pH was 6.0.
I side dressed with organic 5-5-5 when they blossomed, then "tomato fertilizer" (4-18-38) last week.
I've never used Epsom or calcium nitrate with soil-grown plants, only hydroponics.
Since I grow everything in this compost, next year after it's delivered I'll have it tested. It's free.
Edit: I should mention. Out of about 40 buckets, I only see this problem in 3 or 4. Everything is in the same location with the same soil, same sun exposure, same watering schedule, same side-dress.
And the Japanese beetles were kind to me this year.
Did you notice the problem after you applied the tomato fertilizer?
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Is there any particular reason that you dose such a high P and K fertilizer, with so low N?
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Is your feeding regimen based on gut feelings, or is this a recommendation for the "soil" that you're using? Has anyone ever tested it?
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Is there any particular reason that you dose such a high P and K fertilizer, with so low N?
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Is your feeding regimen based on gut feelings, or is this a recommendation for the "soil" that you're using? Has anyone ever tested it?
It's more intense because that is a ridiculously stupidly out of whack fertilizer. Like, almost more of a specialty product. You should absolutely NEVER use a product like that without a very good reason. Now depending on how you dosed it, it's highly possible that you locked out something. It's really difficult to diagnose nutrient deficiencies, when shooting from the hip. Reading stuff on the internet falls into the "shooting from the hip" category. IF I were you... and I were going to continue to use this compost... I'd have it tested. Otherwise, I'd build a proper container mix. Because straight compost doesn't fit in that category.
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You are dosing 4.5x more phosphorus than nitrogen. NEVER. 9.5x (!!!) more Potassium than Nitrogen. ABSOLUTELY NEVER!
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I'm exhausted preaching the gospel of "you don't need to cycle nutrients in your garden". You're going to have to flush the shit out of those containers, to save these plants. And I really don't know what to tell you about saving them, from this point.
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You are dosing 4.5x more phosphorus than nitrogen. NEVER. 9.5x (!!!) more Potassium than Nitrogen. ABSOLUTELY NEVER!
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I'm exhausted preaching the gospel of "you don't need to cycle nutrients in your garden". You're going to have to flush the shit out of those containers, to save these plants. And I really don't know what to tell you about saving them, from this point.
could be disease on these plants just got lucky.
if you are doing the same thing on the other plants i wouldn't be so quick to condemn your fertilizer methods.
although if you are going to use masterblend 4-18-38 definately use the calcium nitrate and epsom salt too. u need the calcium and nitrogen for sure.
you can review this page with lots of resources: https://cpi.nmsu.edu/diseases-disorders-insects-the-chile-pepper-institute/
if you are doing the same thing on the other plants i wouldn't be so quick to condemn your fertilizer methods.
although if you are going to use masterblend 4-18-38 definately use the calcium nitrate and epsom salt too. u need the calcium and nitrogen for sure.
you can review this page with lots of resources: https://cpi.nmsu.edu/diseases-disorders-insects-the-chile-pepper-institute/
It can also be what's in the compost. We know from soil building 101 that compost isn't a good container medium... But what is in the compost? Where does it come from? Is there something in it that could be contributing? (since this has been a problem on other plants - and wouldn't be in an inert media)juanitos said:
mitchNC said:
Hey Mitch, what kind of media in those pots? And you've been growing for awhile, correct?
I figured you were an experienced grower!
Just compost? No amendments like pearlite? And you've been successful with this growing media & bucket in the past?mitchNC said:
Well, there's no arguing with success!
I was asking as I was wondering if it may have been part of your issue. I was thinking media compaction with poor drainage with lack of air causing poor nutrient uptake. If you've grown with this media in the past and didn't have any issues obviously your current issue is unrelated. Over-watering/poor drainage is high on the list of reasons for leaf issues.
Back to the drawing board!
I was asking as I was wondering if it may have been part of your issue. I was thinking media compaction with poor drainage with lack of air causing poor nutrient uptake. If you've grown with this media in the past and didn't have any issues obviously your current issue is unrelated. Over-watering/poor drainage is high on the list of reasons for leaf issues.
Back to the drawing board!
Yeah, it's really great stuff. We even planted all our blueberries in it, just with added sulfur.
I have 4 whiskey barrels with habs, ghosts, and shishitos. The plants are so thick and lush, and loaded with pods.
Just this compost and a tsp of organic 5-5-5 about a month ago.
I live in the land of hard red clay, so containers and raised beds are the norm.
I have 4 whiskey barrels with habs, ghosts, and shishitos. The plants are so thick and lush, and loaded with pods.
Just this compost and a tsp of organic 5-5-5 about a month ago.
I live in the land of hard red clay, so containers and raised beds are the norm.