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PeriPeri's Grow 13/14/15/2016: South African

Welcome to PeriPeri's Grow 13/14/15/2016: South Africa
 
If you would like to see the 2012/2013 Grow, you can see it Here

First a little info about our country:

South Africa is situated at the very southern tip of the African continent. Our country ranges a divers spectrum of cultures and religions and of course habitats. Our country is flanked by the Atlantic on the SW coast line and the Indian Ocean on the NE coast line. Our diverse habitats range from tropical to sub saharan and even desert up north. One thing is for sure, the high summer temperatures and generally mild winter temperatures mean that our country does offer a great opportunity to grow chillies (among other things). To those who are not familiar with our country, Africa probably conjurs up images of harsh barren landscapes with dry baked un-fertile soil and wild animals roaming all over the place. South Africa is probably one of the most established african countries with a large farming sector and loads of fertile soil.

The locality of where this grow will take place is largely situated inland near Pretoria. Altitude here is about 4000ft above sea level. We are talking mild winters with some frost early mornings (temperatures drop at night due to altitude). Daytime temps in winter are round about 21ºC and night time temps can drop as low as -4ºC on a very cold night. There is no rain on the "Highveldt" as we call it in winter. As a rule of thumb all months of the year without an "R" do not have rain. These are our dry months, which go from May till August. Our summer is also our rainy season. This goes from September till April. Temperatures in Pretoria in Summer vary 30ºC - 40ºC daytime to a low of 17ºC on average at night. While there is often long dry spells without rain, rains usually accumulate as huge thunderstorms that bring flash floods, hail and sever lightning.

The farm has a borehole which provides water for the garden. Although at present there is no irrigation system. One of my projects for this year.

Animal wise, we have loads of insects, snakes, scorpions, spiders, primates (Baboons and Vervet Monkeys) as well as Carnivores such as Jackals, Rooicats (mountain lion) and other smaller wild cats. But as far as chillies go, the monkeys and baboons are the biggest problem as they do eat the milder chillies and destroy plants while foraging. There are no traps big enough for monkeys and generally they are very clever to get around most deterrents, so full enclosure with shade netting is the best way.

Other than this, I would say that while there has been much bad publicity about the country in the press, our country is a beautiful country with diversity everywhere, the land, the people, the cultures and the religions. Hence our country is called the rainbow nation. Most famous person is probably Nelson Mandella who established our new democracy in the New South Africa after the apartheit era. Our country is a young democracy in the making - but most of all, our country is a diverse and beautiful country with much to offer and of course home of the Big 5, Blue Whale and Great White Shark... and much much more. Just a quick and very narrow snapshot of what our wonderful country is about!

Last years experience has given me a better understanding of growing at the farm and these are the pitfalls from my exercise last year.

Generally last year was a great season. Great weather - hot and dry. Lots of mistakes made, but things that will not be repeated. Last year we had about 78 different varieties of chillies. We had an estimated 1000 plants in the soil. Last season was our first season growing in the soil and based on previous experiences with growing in pots... I will say adieu to pots and hello soil.

1) Watering. As mentioned there is no irrigation. Water is available a plenty, but regular watering in these hot climates is a must. So for me, I will be looking closely at getting some sort of a watering system up and running. Added problem is that the farm is located about 1 hour from where I live, so watering every day during the week was reliant on staff at the farm watering ever second day during the week. Staffing issues resulted in the loss of quite a few plants due to non watering. So irrigation and a computer will be priority.

2) Season. Last year we started planting seedlings late October/Early November. This year we aim to be in the soil early October. Germination started earlier this season beginning July. I have also acquired a green house which I will use for the seedlings.

3) Planting. Last year planting got into a big muddle. This year I will be more methodical. Also, we planted too close. We found that this becomes a problem when harvesting. We did not feel that last years approach of planting two seedlings together being a problem. We did not notice any significant lower yield with plants that had been planted together as opposed to individually. And found that the cohabitation of plants together (in pairs) actually helped in areas where seedlings were exposed to direct sun. In fact, cohabitation resulted in better growth and larger plants.

4) Spacing. Last year we planted seedlings approx 45cm apart. We would like to extend this to 60cm as we found 45cm to be too dense. We were happy with using channels and rows which helped retain water for approx two - three days between watering and helped channel any run off out of the field. Also, there was no pooling or puddling which was better I think.

5) Insects/monkeys/Snails. Mostly cutworm issues with small seedlings. We will tackle this by using (Stickman's stick method) and through pellets - if need be. Pepper maggots: We suffered quite extensively with Pepper Maggots. We will implement sacrificial boundary plants, fly tapes and beer traps (not for me but the wasps). Monkeys: Plant inside enclosures only. We will be looking at extending the current shade net enclosure, but will need to raise funding for this. Giant African Land Snail: Amazing buggers these. We found lots but only a few that had dug into the plants root system to suck the minerals from plant roots. Not much of a threat as these were just removed by hand, but the enclosure goes a long way to preventing them from getting in.

6) Weeds. Last year we had a problem with weeds. Weeds were time consuming at the start of the season and probably brought about by the application of horse manure. We will try and look at applying some kind of ground cover to reduce weeds, but this will be advised at a later stage.

7) Planting. Last year we took young seedlings and planted them in a nursery. Once big enough we transplanted them densely in the inside enclosed garden (which has 40% shade cloth) and then transplanted the young plants to the open fields once about 15 - 20cm in size. We would like to cut out all the extra work and transplanting, which we found to just delay growth. Every time you transplant, the plant growth is set back... so we will be planting directly into the plants final destination. This means we will be waiting for the pants to get to 15-20cm in size before planting in the soil. Last season we planted seedlings in the soil when they were very small and this also resulted in losses through cutworm.

8) Fertilizers. Nothing hectic. The soil at the farm is incredibly rich and fertile soil. But we found last year that Seaweed and Fish fertilizers to be brilliant and totally harmless. So we will definitely be sticking with this recipe. Out of time constraint, last season, pellets were applied to the surface as opposed to mixing the pellets into the soil around the base of the plant, so this season we will try and do this properly. We alo will pay particular attention to maintaining the mounds around the root base and regularly loosening the soil. With our flash floods and heavy downpours the mounds do flatten and the soil becomes compacted. This results in roots being exposed, water running off the soil as opposed to into the soil and ultimately impacting on the plants optimal growth.

9) Support. Last year we added support as the plants became bigger. Not knowing how big some of the plants would get. We have a better idea this year and will be implementing supports at the beginning. We have two types of bamboo on the farm and will be using the harder thinner bamboo as this does not disturb the roots as much.

10) Drink. More beer. Last year we did not have nearly enough beer to get us through the backbreaking work... so there will have to be more beer for sure :) Just one more thing on that, Nature is an amazing process. Trust in nature. Everything has its place and jumping to intervene (which we always want to do) is sometimes the worst thing that we can do. Plants are very forgiving once established and a lot more resilient than we give them credit for. So chill. Have a beer when the nerves are frayed and you want to reach for the napalm. Nature is amazing most of the time and things in nature have survived a million times over. For aphids there are ladybirds. For insects there are the birds... if you napalm the aphids, the ladybirds will go... just chill and have a beer :) This is my theory and I am sticking to it lol

Ok, lots on the cards this year. plenty to do and arrange and it will be kicking off shortly. The plants from last year are still in the garden and field. I only over wintered the special plants. Of these there are 100 mature plants that I rescued from the winter frost. The other 900 plants are still in the soil. It looks like armageddon in the fields. Some plants have been taken by the frost for sure, but others are showing signs of life. I plan to go this week to weed out the dead plants from the survivors and prune dead wood. I am planning to rearrange things somewhat, so once I have established the survivors, I will be transplanting those plants to get order back into the fields. This will allow me to get the vacant land ready for new plants.

As mentioned germination is well under way. Propagator has been fired up now for month and a bit and seedlings are coming along just great. First week of October will be my D-Day for planting.

Loads of exciting new chillies on the go this season. I had intended to cut down on the number of plants this year... but guess what :D

Grow List 2013/2014

Aji Lemon
Angkor Sunrise
Anheim
Antilaise Caribbean
Avenir
Baby Belle Pimento
Bahamian Goat
Bali Long
Bali Naga
Bhut Jolokia
Bhut Jolokia Cappuccino
Bhut Jolokia Chocolate
Bhut Jolokia Peach
Bhut Jolokia X Habanero Giant White
Big Jim
Bile Bile (Zimbabwean PeriPeri)
Biquinho
Bishops Crown
Black Pearl
Blondie
Bonda Ma Jacques
Boriya Mirch
Cabe Merah
Calapeño Thunder
California Wonder Golden
Calypso
CARDI Red
Carolina Reaper
Cayenne
Joe's Long Cayenne
Cherry Sweet
Cherry Bomb
Cheyenne
Cheyenne X Thai
Condom (Aji Verde)
Datil
Devil's Tongue Brown
Devil's Tongue White
Ecuadorian Sweet
Explosive Embers
Facing Heaven
Fatalii Red
Fatalii White
Fatalii Yellow
Fidalga Roxa
Fish Pepper
Goronong Cili
Habanero Big Sun
Habanero Champagne
Habanero Gambia
Habanero Golden
Habanero Paper Lantern
Habanero Peach Long
Habanero Red
Habanero Large White
Habanero White Jellybean
Hong Kong
Hot Pixies
Hungarian Hot Wax
Hungarian Sweet Wax
Hungarian White Apple
Ignite
Jalapeño
Jalapeño El Jefe
Jamaican Gold
Jawala
Long Thai
Madballz7
Makulu Peri
Malaguetta
Manzano Orange
Mata Frade
Morango
Naga King Jolokia
Naga Morich (European)
Naga Morich (Indian)
Naga Viper
NagaBon
Nagalah
Orange Blob
Pasilla Bajio
Pata Pario
PeriPeri (Mozambique)
PeriPeri (Malawi)
PeriPeri (SA)
Phuli Jiyoti
Pimenta de Neyde
Purple Tiger
Red Savina
Ring of Fire
Rocotillo
Rodo
CARDI Yellow Scorpion
Scarlet Lantern
Scotch Bonnet
Scotch Bonnet Peach Long
Serrano
Sikanya
Tabasco
Thai Dragon
Thaibo
Trinidad 7 Pot Barrakpore
Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah X Trinidad Scorpion ButchT
Trinidad 7 Pot Primo
Trinidad 7 Pot Brainstrain
Trinidad 7 Pot Burgundy
Trinidad 7 Pot Douglah
Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah
Trinidad 7 Pot Red
Trinidad 7 Pot White
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga
Trinidad Perfume
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Bhut Jolokia
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Trinidad 7 Pot Primo
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Moruga
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI Yellow X Bhut Jolokia
Trinidad Scorpion Long Tail
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Chocolate
Trinidad Scorpion Sunrise
Trinidad Scorpion Yellow FG
Tuscan Frgitello (Pepperoncini)
 
122 different types - I hope that will be it :D
 
Thank you to Stickman for the seeds. Thank you to Conor for his seeds and thank you to Meatfreak for the amazing selection he sent. I am still hoping that Walkgood's package will arrive - so thanks for those in advance my friend!
 
 
 
Looking good, Lourens.  As Greg said, it sure is good to see some ripening pods, especially for us winter-bound northerners.  (Never thought I'd be calling myself a "northerner", ha.)
 
Jeez, I hope you don't have mites.  I've been spared those, so far, and am dreading the day they find their way to my plants.
 
About those giant snails, they look like nature's gift of prefabricated pepper pots to me.  Ramon has his eggshell starting method; you could be the snail shell grower.  At the very least, it would make an interesting image to have an array of plants growing in shells.  Probably be a real pain to pot up or plant out, though.
 
Sawyer said:
Looking good, Lourens.  As Greg said, it sure is good to see some ripening pods, especially for us winter-bound northerners.  (Never thought I'd be calling myself a "northerner", ha.)
 
Jeez, I hope you don't have mites.  I've been spared those, so far, and am dreading the day they find their way to my plants.
 
About those giant snails, they look like nature's gift of prefabricated pepper pots to me.  Ramon has his eggshell starting method; you could be the snail shell grower.  At the very least, it would make an interesting image to have an array of plants growing in shells.  Probably be a real pain to pot up or plant out, though.
Hi John,
I know how you feel... it was great seeing some pods from you Northerners (lol) when we are in our deepest winter here. Makes this hobby almost perfect!
I also hope it isn't mites... but whatever it is, the Neem should help kick some butt. Going to carve me some surloin steak from them snails and fry them on the bbq lol
Nick08* said:
 
[SIZE=11.818181991577148px]Just incredible!! Quite a nightmare to deal with I'm sure... But an amazing specimen! Wow, and I thought half-dollar sized snails were bad. YIKES!![/SIZE]
That is the Giant African Land Snail (Achatina Fulica). It will feast on pretty much anything including meat, bones & concrete. I have seen them on a number of occasions feasting on the roots of the chillies. They burry themselves into the root system, where they just suck the minerals from the roots. So not hectic or dangerous to the plants in my experience... but could quite possibly kill smaller plants.
 
PeriPeri said:
 Going to carve me some surloin steak from them snails and fry them on the bbq lol
 
Are these actually edible? Had some small snails at an Italian place the other day, and they were quite tasty! That thing would make a nice meal...
 
Sawyer said:
Good for him.  I've heard some types of snails are actually poisonous.
Not for the Nigerian cook in the video. Our neighbours are well known for eating some pretty funky stuff and very hot funky stuff too lol
 
So far I've been spared mites Lourens, but Aphids I did have when I brought my OW plants inside. I've heard that Neem oil works with them, but I don't have any experience with it. I nuked the little bastiges with Pyrethrin then since the hard frost had forced the friendlies like Ladybugs and Lacewings underground for the winter. My usual method of protecting my outdoor plants is to make companion plantings of herbs and flowers that attract the friendlies. Our cold winters tend to keep the bad-guys numbers down... there are even some advantages to living this far north, eh?  ;) 
 
You might want to check in with Trippa and Megamoo for advice on dealing with Mites... apparently it's a big problem in their part of the world.
 
Except for evidence of bad-guys on your plants everything looks great! Cheers...
 
Some years are just tougher than others, but it looks like you have a plan and are putting it into action.
Still looks like plenty of pod for the winter table.
Good luck with the beasties.
 
stickman said:
So far I've been spared mites Lourens, but Aphids I did have when I brought my OW plants inside. I've heard that Neem oil works with them, but I don't have any experience with it. I nuked the little bastiges with Pyrethrin then since the hard frost had forced the friendlies like Ladybugs and Lacewings underground for the winter. My usual method of protecting my outdoor plants is to make companion plantings of herbs and flowers that attract the friendlies. Our cold winters tend to keep the bad-guys numbers down... there are even some advantages to living this far north, eh?  ;)
 
You might want to check in with Trippa and Megamoo for advice on dealing with Mites... apparently it's a big problem in their part of the world.
 
Except for evidence of bad-guys on your plants everything looks great! Cheers...
Hey Rick, thanks for the advice. Next season will be a more wholistic approach to gardening. Preparing the soil (checking the soil as you advised) and planting plants that as you rightly said - attract friendlies. I was spoiled last season with a great first grow... but I can appreciate this year how blessed I was. It is good to have this experience... I will check with them Aussies what the low down is.
JJJessee said:
Some years are just tougher than others, but it looks like you have a plan and are putting it into action.
Still looks like plenty of pod for the winter table.
Good luck with the beasties.
Hi JJJessee, you are very right. I was misslead into believing that last season was the bench mark for me. The unusually wet and cold weather we have had this summer has affected most of Southern Africa - even the Zimbabweans are crying about too much rain. The problem in our neck of the woods is that we get rain... hectic rain... thunderstorms and downpours that will literally strip the paint off cars. But that kind of rain just creates flooding and disaster. So much flooding this year all around the country. Mozambique will be badly affected too as many of our rivers flood into Mozambique - so they take much of our run off even if they are not having floods themselves. Besides having been a wet and cool summer, it has definitely affected the amount of Ladybugs and good bugs... and this in turn has allowed the kind of bad bug outbreaks that I am dealing with right now. But despite my reporting on it all the time - I like a challenge. We will just have to dig deeper and beat the ods! Beasties - what beasties!?
Oh I failed to mention, I turned off the irrigation last sunday. It was a bit of a gamble... but it has rained so heavily over the last few days... I am glad I did. I think this will also be for the better. I think I will see some vast improvements this weekend!
 
An update on things here in South Africa. Our wet weather pattern continues with much moist air filtering down from the Congo. This sees heavy downpours in our neck of the woods. Especially Johannesburg. Rain almost every day and when I say rain I mean deluges of water. Anyway... I am almost used to this by now!
 
The Aphids seem to like and thrive in this cooler and wetter weather. When the sun comes out, it dries up immediately... the sun is just blisteringly hot when the skies open. Kinda odd wearing a jearsey one minute and pealing off all clothes the next. Feeling cool one minute and just dripping sweat the next.
 
So last weekend I sprayed the inside area with Neem Oil. Unfortunately there was a hectic thunderstorm that night - so this has probably not left sufficient time for the Neem Oil to have maximum effect. But, having said this, there have been signs of improvement. I think the combination of Neem Oil and Seaweed pelletes have shown significant reduction in Aphids and visible regrowth - without the presence of Aphids (more importantly).
 
The problem with aphids and white fly and the likes is that they sit under the leaves. So spraying over and under the leaves (in a meticulous fashion) is time consuming! None the less - it was done again yesterday at about 4pm. Sunset is at about 6:30... so I think that gives enought time. The sun really only eases off here at about 4pm... even at 3pm the intensity of the sun is just too strong.
 
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The interesting observation here is that comparing inside to outside area... the outside area has no aphids. In facty the plants outside are looking free of any bugs. I am leaning towards the realisation that as much as the shade netting creates an inpenetrable barrier to the monkeys, it is also keeping out the good bugs!
But it would appear that despite my struggle, some chillies just love their abode and will not be moved :) !
 
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The MArango's are coming into fruit. Quite intrigued by these. Nothink like what I have found on the internet... The colouring is oval - slightly pointed and the colouring is like a Tabasco or Yellybean Haba... kinda cream. I guess these will eventually turn red once ripe. Cant wait to try them!
 
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Another surprise is the Red Cherry (Not). I am guessing these are Hot Apples? Not sure... but I am über keen to try these. Massibe peppers they are too! Most amazing shape... totally radical these.
 
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The Ecuadorian Sweets are excellent growers. They seem to love this weather. This is a small plant, but most are about 1,4m. These do take a long time to change colour - but it looks like this will be soon. These are really sweet and delicioso!
 
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As you can see aphids are very photogenic... so they are in every shot. I am hoping next weekend there will be no aphids in the pictures. Actually the worst is when you are picking pods and these bastages go all over the legs and the arms... real itchy stuff that.

If someone could give me a bump - I'd be very apreciative ;)
 
Wow the shape on those is awesome. Keep up with the neem oil treatments, gotta do it regularly to get the adults AND the eggs, but eventually it should get most of them.
 
GA Growhead said:
bump. Aphids suck!
Thanks my friend... they do, but there is worse!
spysee said:
Wow the shape on those is awesome. Keep up with the neem oil treatments, gotta do it regularly to get the adults AND the eggs, but eventually it should get most of them.
Thanks! I'm going to blast them buggers back to where they came from!
I am still at a loss for the strange shaped chilli. A Hot Apple is more rounded. These pods are more flat. A Starfish pepper is another option... but these pods seem to be way too big for those... if anyone has any suggestions - lets have them!?

Looking at some of the more unusual chillies today. This is the Joe's Long Cayenne. They sure are very, very, very long CAyennes indeed!
 
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Massive infact...
 
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That is probably about 80g of chilli powder right there in 1 pod lol

I had this one plant pop up amongst the Tabasco's. It has these black branches with light green foliage with defined veins. It's not A TAbasco for sure... but the pods do look like Aji Lemons - is it? Does not look like the Aji Lemons I have inside... those do not have black stems... hmmm... Anyone?
 
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I call these the Makulu Peri. Kind of asian chilli facing heaven. Quite a peppery burn. Not as hot as a PeriPeri, but much bigger and excellent grower. Lots of them on a plant. I use these to bulk things out a bit on sauces. Not much fruitiness or real flavour. But they grow well in this climate and are very fast growing, so these will give shade to the smaller plants outside.
 
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Another non descript asian hybrid type. Pods hang like Thai Dragons... but pods are larger and have a slight wrinkle in them... possibly a hybrid Thai Dragon x Caynne or Jawala.
 
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A couple of the Condom (Aji Verde) plants from last season OW and are podding up outside. The phenotype has changed somewhat. The tips last season were rounded like little teats... this season, they appear to be more pointed. Maybe these pods will still grow into the shape. An awesome chilli really, grows well, produces lots and nice crunchy, fruity and clean tasting chilli. A mild chilli in my books... about the same as a Bishops.
 
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Talking of Bishops... they are starting to turn outside. These do take a long time to change colour... now the trick is to pick them before the monkeys and pepper maggots get them :)
 
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The Baby Belle Pimentos are also turning... these are super producers. Producing pods well into autumn. Huge plants 1,6m + with just truck loads of peppers. These, Bishops and my Condoms are without a doubt the biggest producers I have growing.
 
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A wee bump please mateys :)

Anyone for a bump? :rolleyes:
 
megamoo said:
Thanks mega!
First signs of Tabasco's starting to turn...
 
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Blondies are still small and on the go. They managed to avoid the aphids and are looking good I think... hoping to see these before the season comes to a close.
 
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My TS Chocolates were severely affected by them aphids. But, they are now clear and new leaf formation shows leaves free of aphid damage.
 
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Nice new growth... puts a smile on anyones face I think. They have been sprayed again yesterday so they should recover just splendidly ;)
 
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The Puta Pario too should be free of aphids from now on. It has quite a few pods now... really looking forward to this one.
 
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The Yucatan or Jellybean Haba was badly affected by aphids. Tricky plant to spray and eradicate them aphids as the plant is so dense... but it is looking much better. It is also not loosing leaves as much anymore.
 
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Trinidad Scorpion Long Tails also on the mend. Nice new growth and even just growth - it's grown tremendously in the last week. I think this is as a result of the seaweed pellets...
 
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Aji Lemons were also badly hit by the aphids... but are getting better. The problem with the aphids is that they stifle the pods, flowers and cause the plant to drop flowers, pods and leaves... so plants really don't get to grow. But already looking much better this week.
 
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The TS Yellow FG have been slow slow slow. Combination of wet soil and aphids I am guessing. But lets see...
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The OW Scotch Bonnet Peach long is finally coming into its own. Nice sized pods. Still quite smoothe... but much wrinklier than earlier on in the season. A monster pod on the plant for the picking. The taste of these is like a Ruby Grapefruit... very very unique and super tasty these. Their heat is quite intense too.
 
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Keeping with the colour scheme of things... this is what I have called the Peach Haba Long..
 
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Everyone says it but its true... Aphids SUCK! 
 
I'm almost too scared to say it and tempt fate but for the main part of my season I haven't seen any aphids.  You gotta take the good with the bad.
 
Ok, so the Thai/Asian chillies are starting to come into season. Last year we had two flushes on the Thai Dragon... this season has been incredibly slow. I think there may just be the one.
 
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Cabe Merah
 
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Phuli Jyoti
 
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megamoo said:
Everyone says it but its true... Aphids SUCK! 
 
I'm almost too scared to say it and tempt fate but for the main part of my season I haven't seen any aphids.  You gotta take the good with the bad.
lol like Harry Potter - he who must not be named lol... thanks Moo, my absolute worst is Whitefly... grrr
Them Malaysian Goronong have always eluded me. Never had any luck with germination. This season I managed to germinate... and then the cold weather... and then the flooding... and then the hail... and now the aphids! It is tiny... but there is hope :)
 
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One of the lost label bunch... no clues as to what it might be yet... but they are coming along in leaps and bounds now. The leaves rule out Chinense... could be a annuum, baccatum or frutescens... lets see what flowers we get :) Hey this is fun... for now Enigma 100 it is.
 
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More and more Angkor Sunrise changing colour... I like the texture and taste of these. I think I mentioned they are almost like an inbetween PeriPeri / Tabsco...
 
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Not - Pimento De Neyde... more like a Red Douglah of sorts... looking forward to the taste test.
 
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Agreed... Aphids and Whiteflies suck... in both senses of the word... :rolleyes:  but despite that you're getting what look like decent harvests. It's a shame that the netting keeps out the friendlies, but it could also keep them in too if you could collect enough of them and introduce them into the enclosure. maybe next year you could replace the side netting with chicken wire (or wire mesh of the appropriate size) and leave the netting on top of the enclosure to provide partial shade. Then the friendlies could get through the larger openings in the wire, and the rodents and monkeys wouldn't be able to tear the netting to get inside the enclosure. If you're worried about them getting through the netting on top you could completely enclose the space with the wire and re-fastening the netting on top. Just a thought...
 
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