hate to break it to you guys. I didnt use agave or honey. I was going to add honey at the end if i didnt think it was sweet enough, but the persimmons were enough. It was delicious and a sauce that i'm definitely going to work to refine. I kept it fairly simple. Persimmons, habanero, roasted garlic, some spices and lemon juice. It's definitely going to sweep the hot pepper awards in a few years.