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Planting Out?

Just a quick question, how large do my plants need to be in order to plant them outside in the garden? Is it just bigger the better?, or is there a rough cutoff point to where you should leave them inside until they get larger?

Just wondering since it is getting close to that time!
 
Generally, bigger is stronger. But if they're hardened, I've successfully planted 2 inch seedlings in the garden. They just don't tolerate the extremes of wind, sun and rain as well. Farmers plant directly in the ground from seed and most of those do pretty good.
 
Ok, that was what I was thinking. The only problem I am having right now is finding the time to harden off my plants. I work 8-5 every day, and with the weather lately, I don't want to leave my plants out all day since they might get rained to death. They do get alot of time outside during the weekend, but the time on weekdays is limited.
 
Make a simple lean-to against the side of your house. Use plywood or whatever you have laying around and secure it so it doesn't blow away. Even though they won't get any direct light, the exposure to outdoors will harden them slowly and safely. Don't let the lean-to collapse on them while you're gone. That would be bad.
 
Ok, I know I have some plywood laying around. I will just have to see if I can rig something up on the back porch!
 
inolan22 said:
Ok, that was what I was thinking. The only problem I am having right now is finding the time to harden off my plants. I work 8-5 every day, and with the weather lately, I don't want to leave my plants out all day since they might get rained to death. They do get alot of time outside during the weekend, but the time on weekdays is limited.

If they have already been out for a few days and the sun/heat is not a concern, let them outside in the rain. It won't hurt them - what are you going to do after you transplant them - keep them covered on rainy days? :cool:

Mike
 
They have already been out for couple days. I have them all in trays together and some plants are still only 2" tall. I just don't want a downpour to tear them apart before they have some time to get a little bigger.
 
i grew mine from seed indoors, and the only hardening off i gave them was setting them on my patio as soon as the threat of frost was gone. they only get light sun if against the window or alot of sun by the railing.

TO experiment with this, i put my overwintered black pearl right out into the sun and it's got a ton of new growth and lost a couple leggy branches as well. They were just too weak. Not a total loss though, as i was able to take 3 good cuttings from this mother plant. One is planted in the ground at my off-site garden (the in-laws) and the other two are in my cloner. There was a good bit of sun scorched leaves, but the new growth is promising.

Not knowing your schedule, i would slide them out in the am and right back in when you get home for a week or two and than just plant them out. it's not like you couldn't start again. If you have 3-4 good sets of leaves they'll probably make it.
 
fineexampl said:
i grew mine from seed indoors, and the only hardening off i gave them was setting them on my patio as soon as the threat of frost was gone. they only get light sun if against the window or alot of sun by the railing.

TO experiment with this, i put my overwintered black pearl right out into the sun and it's got a ton of new growth and lost a couple leggy branches as well. They were just too weak. Not a total loss though, as i was able to take 3 good cuttings from this mother plant. One is planted in the ground at my off-site garden (the in-laws) and the other two are in my cloner. There was a good bit of sun scorched leaves, but the new growth is promising.

Not knowing your schedule, i would slide them out in the am and right back in when you get home for a week or two and than just plant them out. it's not like you couldn't start again. If you have 3-4 good sets of leaves they'll probably make it.

Most of my plants are in the midst of producing their third set of leaves if they have not already opened up.

I will probably end up leaving them all day in the shade to start out with then slowly ease them into the sun. I do have a bunch of plants, so even if I lose one or two plants it won't hurt my crop :).
 
bigt said:
Generally, bigger is stronger. But if they're hardened, I've successfully planted 2 inch seedlings in the garden. They just don't tolerate the extremes of wind, sun and rain as well. Farmers plant directly in the ground from seed and most of those do pretty good.

Wow are you serious? I thought the plant had to be 4-6" minimum before they would be able to go outside?? I guess I have to verify info online first next time. I ordered 12 plants and each one is already 3-4", but I've been keeping them inside under the light. Should I go ahead and start hardening them off? I don't have much room with the new sprouts so being able to put them outside would be a huge plus.
 
LGHT said:
Wow are you serious? I thought the plant had to be 4-6" minimum before they would be able to go outside?? I guess I have to verify info online first next time. I ordered 12 plants and each one is already 3-4", but I've been keeping them inside under the light. Should I go ahead and start hardening them off? I don't have much room with the new sprouts so being able to put them outside would be a huge plus.

I've got seedlings that are a half and inch tall that I'm hardening off. There's not set time when you shouldn't do it.
 
LGHT said:
Wow are you serious? I thought the plant had to be 4-6" minimum before they would be able to go outside?? I guess I have to verify info online first next time. I ordered 12 plants and each one is already 3-4", but I've been keeping them inside under the light. Should I go ahead and start hardening them off? I don't have much room with the new sprouts so being able to put them outside would be a huge plus.

If you got those from Cross Country, I'll bet they are already partially hardened. They've been in a greenhouse. They are ready for some real light again, just start with shade be sure. I have a one inch Gold Bullet in a cup getting hardened right now. Still on it's 1st leaves, but 2nd one's are coming. Those Bullets really grow slow and natural light speeds them up IMO. Some CC instructions
 
bigt said:
If you got those from Cross Country, I'll bet they are already partially hardened. They've been in a greenhouse. They are ready for some real light again, just start with shade be sure. I have a one inch Gold Bullet in a cup getting hardened right now. Still on it's 1st leaves, but 2nd one's are coming. Those Bullets really grow slow and natural light speeds them up IMO. Some CC instructions

Yeah they where from CC. I read those instructions, but it didn't say anything about the size the plant needs to be or when to put it outside. So I was going by another website instead that said only put plants outside when they are 4-6" :(

I'll start getting them outside in a shaded area that gets about 2 hours of direct sun a day. Then move them to an area that gets about 4 hours then again to an area that gets about 8-10 hours.
 
LGHT said:
Wow are you serious? I thought the plant had to be 4-6" minimum before they would be able to go outside?? I guess I have to verify info online first next time. I ordered 12 plants and each one is already 3-4", but I've been keeping them inside under the light. Should I go ahead and start hardening them off? I don't have much room with the new sprouts so being able to put them outside would be a huge plus.
Not to be pedantic, but think about direct sowing of seeds. The plant doesn't wait until it is 4-6" tall before emerging from the dirt!

If things don't change, I plan on germinating my seeds next year in a green house; they will start hardening off from the get-go.

Mike
 
I wait until plant are a decent size before exposing them to direct sun, wind, and rain. Direct sowing may work in some warmer climates but we can definitely help mother nature out by starting plants early and slowly acclimatizing them to the elements.
 
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